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What other makes of PSUs are quality other than Corsair?

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i was gonna get the Corsair Tx 650w or 750w for my planned I7, but realized they were not modular,

so im looking at alternatives at 650w and over for a good price,

i have these makes on mind;

Xclio
Hiper
Be quiet dark power: but these are expensive.
Enermax

Also whats the best O/C for an I7 920 on air so far regardless of mobo and case?
 

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+1 to Silverstone and PC power &cooling

DO NOT GET HIPER OR XCLIO i have had both and both killed hardware. Google alittle and you will find alot of problems with them
 
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OCZ has been of the best PSU's I have ever owned.
 

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You pick from those 4 and you will not go wrong. :)

Hope it helps. :)
 

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I must add:

FSP
Sparkle
E-Power
TOPower
Xigmatek
Seventeam

And depending on model ....
Antec
Athenatech
BFG
Coolmax
 

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PC Power & Cooling are the same as OCZ, just branded different ( I believe OCZ owns PC P&C).

But Corsair, PC P&C, Seasonic, Silverstone are the 4 i would recommend
 

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PC Power & Cooling are the same as OCZ, just branded different ( I believe OCZ owns PC P&C).

But Corsair, PC P&C, Seasonic, Silverstone are the 4 i would recommend

Yes OCZ does own PC Power & Cooling, just under a different name

I +1 on PC Power & Cooling

To tell you the truth buddy, working at a Computer Retail Store, and testing different PSU's, there is not a huge difference just different voltages on the railings, some might have one rail or multiple...

Picking what type of hardware is your personal preference, what manufacture you had best luck and especially customer support, but aswell asking other people their experience...
 
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You forgot Enermax and CoolerMaster.
 

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Corsair makes modular PSUs, they're under the HX category.
 

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damn, Xiggy gets only mentioned once, which xigmatek all there PSU are all modular but yes corsair does make modular psu's
 

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as everyone already said, PC P&C, Silverstone, Seasonic and Corsair are the top 4. There are other great ones too like Enermax, Thermaltake (Toughpower series) and Ultra (but only the X3 line). Other brands are less consistent so you got to research the model in question.
 

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Corsair makes modular PSUs, they're under the HX category.

Im aware of that, used to own a Hx620, but i sold it with my last pc! :banghead:

Anyhow, Thanks all!
 
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Enermax if you can afford one and a Thermaltake toughpower if you cant.
 
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Here is a extremely good breakdown of PSU's. Perkam from XtremeSystems worked very hard on this and countless others. This is the old list as the last I looked they were working on a new more up to date one.

WHICH ONES TO BUY ??

Tier 1 can handle 4Ghz Conroe or 3Ghz AMD along with Oced Quad Crossfire/SLI With Ease.
Tier Z offers quality and power unequalled in its wattage range and is second only to other Zippy units.
Tier 2 offers almost as much power and stability as Tier 1 at Comparable Wattage levels with lower price/better availability.
Tier T offers the high quality components of Tier 2 with slightly less Rail stability due to Topower internals.
Tier 3 is ONLY Recommended if Price difference is present between Tier 3 and Tier 2 or due to availability issues with Tier 1/2 PSUs.
Tier 4 is recommended for stock or low power systems if Tier 3's are more expensive or are not available.
Tier 5 are NOT RECOMMENDED, but some brands have high/medium quality components in Tiers 2 through 4.

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Tier 1 Brands - The Most Powerful And Stable Components On The Market
Enermax Galaxy
PCP&C TurboCool
PCP&C Silencer >610
Zippy/Emacs SSL
Zippy/Emacs GSM
Zippy/Emacs PSL
Silverstone ZF (Etasis 85/75/56)
Seventeam ST >600 (SSI, V2.91)
Silverstone OP/DA >700W

Tier Z - Less Powerful Than Tier 1 Zippy Units...but they're still Zippys
Zippy/Emacs HG2
Zippy/Emacs HP2

Tier 2 Brands - Top Quality components With Top Notch Stability - For Those With Price/Availability Issues With Tier 1
Antec Neo HE
Akasa PowerGreen 80+
CoolMax CTG-750W/850W/1KW
Cooltek CT
Corsair HX
Enermax Liberty
Enermax Infiniti
Enhance ENP-GH
Fortron (FSP) GLN
Hiper Type-M >650W
Hiper Type-R >650W
iStarUSA PD2
iStarUSA PD3
OCZ GameXStream
OCZ EvoStream
PCP&C Silencer <610
Seasonic S12
Seasonic M12
Seasonic Energy Plus
SevenTeam ST <600
Silverstone EF
Silverstone OP/DA <700W
Supermicro/AbleCom
Thermaltake Toughpower >600W
Xclio GreatPower
Zalman ZM
Ultra X3
Ultra X-Pro

Tier T - High Quality PSUs Made With Topower Internals - Less Rail Stability Compared To Tier 2 But Still Better than Tier 3
Mushkin Enhanced
Tagan U95
Tagan U25
Tagan U15
Tagan U22
OCZ PowerStream

Tier 3 Brands - High Quality and Stability, Second Only To Tier 2 Brands
Acbel Polycom
AMS Mercury
Akasa PaxPower
Akasa PowerPlus (>500W Models)
Antec Phantom
Antec TruePower III
Antec True Power II
Antec True Control II
Antec Neopower 480W (Old Model)
Antec Smart Power 2.0
Athena Power Space Shuttle Series
Be Quiet Dark Power Pro
Channel Well
Enermax Maximum Plus
Enermax Noistaker II
Enermax Noisetaker
Enermax Whisper II
Enermax CoolerGiant
Enhance ENS-G
Epower Xscale
Fortron (FSP) GLC
Fortron (FSP) THN
Fortron AX
Fortron HLN
Fortron PFN/PN/PA
Seasonic Super Versatile
Silverstone F
Sparkle FSP
Spire Rocketeer V/VI
Sunbeam Nuuo
Thermaltake Purepower
Thermaltake Toughpower <600W

Tier 4 - Not Recommend With Tier 3 In same Price/Wattage Range
Aerocool
Asus Atlas
BFG
Coolermaster Real Power
Coolermaster iGreen
Delta
Enlight
E-Power
Futurepower
Hiper
HIPRO
Lite-On
Masscool
MGE XG
Mushkin HP
NorthQ 4775-500S/BU
OCZ Modstream
Scythe Kamariki
Sintek
Thermaltake TR2
TTGI/Superflower
Ultra Xfinity/X2

Tier 5 - Other than the units listed above for any of these brands, NOT RECOMMENDED
A-TOP Technology
APEX (SUPERCASE/ALLIED)
Aspire(Turbo Case)
ATADC
Athena Power
ATRIX
Broadway Com Corp
Cooler Master
Coolmax
Deer
Diablotek
Dynapower USA
EagleTech
FOXCONN
I-Star Computer Co. Ltd
In Win
JPAC COMPUTER
Just PC
Kingwin Inc.
Linkworld Electronics
Logisys Computer
MGE
MSI
NMEDIAPC
Norwood Micro/ CompUSA
NorthQ
NZXT
Powmax
Q-Tec
Raidmax
Rosewill
SFC
Shuttle
Skyhawk
Spire Coolers
Star Micro
STARTECH
TOPOWER TOP
Ultra X-Connect
Wintech
XClio
XION
YoungYear
Zebronics
 

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+1 for xigmatek, don't they offer a lifetime warranty on their PSU's?
 

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+1, very reliable and thorough PSU reviews.

and when i read OklahomaWolf's reviews i cant stop laughing for almost half an hour :D
 
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