ScienceMark thread (with score list)

[Casheti]

ENJOY!!

 

[Canuto]

Just tell me something this may sound stupid but the services i disable come back when i reboot?

 

[giorgos th.]

yes they do.unless if you disable them completely from their properties.

 

[Canuto]

Thanks that's a relief.

 

[Alec§taar]

You can also alter their startup type!

(Takes some experimenting though - some services you MAY need, for what YOU DO, in particular (for example, webservers))

Set it to MANUAL (for testing @ least) & then DISABLED if they prove wholly useless to you.

I list techniques (far more) that IF you want more outta your rig & NOT JUST FOR BENCHMARKS?

GUARANTEED, as Canuto saw? YOU WILL GET IT:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=11119

IN THE FORUMS HERE no less, in the software section in DeathStar's System Optimization STICKY thread...

(His guide's pretty good, but it does NOT go "all the way", mine does... bit long of a read & about 30 minutes of work to implement, but worth it to get the MOST out of what YOU own - "hotrodding" YOUR rig)

Fact is, that the one I wrote & posted circa 1997 onwards (was doing it WAY before that, but never put it out) & post the URL to?

It is the OLDEST & original article (circa 1997 or so is when I first started putting it out online for "general consumption/use"), no b.s. involved, for this type of tuning/tweaking.

I know - I wrote it, & to date? Have NOT seen one older... OR, nearly as comprehensive either.

GOING TO SOUND A BIT "COCKY" HERE, but have to:

Everyone else writing "system tweaking guides" even websites based on them?

HONESTLY? They are just "biting off my style" to be blunt about it.

See my first post there, get even MORE, & probably FAR more, via following the URL I post therein... you'll probably be VERY surprised @ what you can do for more performance & not just on benchmarks.

For daily use & better overall performance, hands-down, no shit.

(Regardless of the fools from "the great arstechnica" & "XP Myths" websites saying I am "stupid/dumb/crazy" for using techniques like this one & have for years now (it IS annoying)... & not just for benchmarks, for FAR MORE! Daily usage & better performance!)

* Your results Canuto? Prove who is spouting the "myths & fables" lol... again, thanks for the proofs...

APK

P.S.=> I am going to help Casheti cut his services list, so enough "b.s." from me on that note for now... lol! apk

 

[Alec§taar]

Casheti :

CUT ALL BUT THESE SERVICES:

EventLog

(may be possible to disable, but not 100% sure, because some security settings demand logging & if unable to log? System WILL shutdown!)

Plug and Play

Remote Procedure Call (RPC) - NEVER SHUT THIS DOWN or your system WILL LAG BAD!

Security Accounts Manager



(Your HUGE list of 51 services... man, you do NOT need all of those running ALL THE TIME!)

* Then, we will work on taskmgr.exe for you, when we have "pulled" all the services in the way...

After this? POST ME A SCREENSHOT OF YOUR TASKMGR.EXE PROCESSES TAB, we will trim more, if possible.

EDIT FINAL: "DONE!"

(ONCE WE look @ your taskmgr.exe, after we trim these services? THEN?? Go @ it man... & DO run ScienceMark 2.0 @ HIGH cpu priority via taskmgr.exe as well)

APK

P.S.=> I am going to get a REAL KICK out of watching your score go up, per my advice, as Canuto's did gaining another 12 points... & far from done yet on his end I imagine, IF he goes to my system optimization tweak/tune page url I noted... apk

 

[Casheti]

NOW THAT'S COOL!

 

[Alec§taar]

NOW THAT'S COOL!

It's going to get COOLER! (See above, done editing now).

You got another 4-5, but we can get more (quoting Howard Hughes from "The Aviator" ('She'll go faster'))

... & faster, guaranteed, as it did for Canuto, in his gaining another 12 points.



* Especially if you wait to run your tests in colder ambient temps (like a.m. or late night ones ontop of the tunings I am going to walk you thru).

Want more?

See here in the URL from my 1st post in the Software Section here, in the STICKY "System Optimization Thread" by DeathStar:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=11119

(AND, for daily use, better performance, NOT JUST BENCHMARKS! Yes, bit long & detailed/verbose (as is my way, but the devil's in the details), & around 30 minutes of work, but, for a lifetime of better performance... tuned by YOU, by hand based on it, yourself!)

DeathStar's is pretty good, but does NOT go "all the way" mine does, rightfully so - it IS the "original article" out there for it, bar-none.

APK

P.S.=> So much for "the great arstechnica" & "XP Myths" websites saying literally, I am "full of it/crazy/stupid" etc. eh? apk

 

[giorgos th.]

O/T
where is that free image hosting you are all using?from techpowerup.
O/T

 

[gR3iF]

 

[gR3iF]

its called tpu capture look under downloads---->utilities

 

[Casheti]

2906MHz without any optimisations

 

[giorgos th.]

gR3iF now you`re talking...
the real potentials of a conroe...

 

[Alec§taar]

WANT MORE STILL, GUARANTEED?

gR3iF now you`re talking...
the real potentials of a conroe...

Again - to quote Howard Hughes from the film 'The Aviator'?

"She'll go FASTER!"...

(Casheti (untuned no less @ BIOS) got another 5 points or so doing this, Canuto another 12... & so on!)

Well, then GO here:

See here in the URL from my 1st post in the Software Section here, in the STICKY "System Optimization Thread" by DeathStar!

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=11119

(AND, for daily use, better performance, NOT JUST BENCHMARKS! Yes, bit long & detailed/verbose (as is my way, but the devil's in the details), & around 30 minutes of work, but, for a lifetime of better performance...)

AND, tuned by YOU, by hand based on it, yourself - based on your daily needs no less!

* See, DeathStar's is pretty good, but does NOT go "all the way" mine does, rightfully so - it IS the "original article" out there for it, bar-none.

APK

Technique to gain more for others as well (helping our team, overall, do better still - even if it gets me "shoved out of the TOP 10 L33T GROUP") REPOSTING:

When you guys run the ScienceMark 2.0 test? Do it THIS way:

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A.) Remove as MANY BACKGROUND APPS RUNNING AS YOU CAN, & even stop your EXPLORER.EXE SHELL using taskmgr.exe!

B.) Stop as many services as you can using services.msc: You (@ least I can) can run with this MINIMUM SET OF SERVICES GOING:

• DCOM Server Process (it may be possible to DISABLE this one, but some apps need it)

• EventLog (may be possible to disable, but not 100% sure, because some security settings demand logging & if unable to log? System WILL shutdown!)

• Plug and Play

• Remote Procedure Call (RPC) - NEVER SHUT THIS DOWN or your system WILL LAG BAD!

• Security Accounts Manager

(Some of those? You may not even HAVE on XP, not sure anymore, but point is there!)

C.) Lastly, let taskmgr.exe startup ScienceMark 2.0 (using its File Menu, Run Submenu to browse for it if need be on disk) & try it @ HIGH CPU PRIORITY!

NOTE: When you are @ highest o/c's possible for your rig? It can get "touchy" using HIGH cpu priority, SO, if you can't finish the test? Step down to AboveNormal or Normal CPU priority via taskmgr.exe on ScienceMark2.exe!

(When you run it by rightclicking on it as you startup the program & it comes into taskmgr.exe's PROCESS tab view as visible, give the benchmark program THAT MUCH MORE CPU PRIORITY possible - then, RUN IT!).

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P.S.=> So much for "the great arstechnica" & "XP Myths" websites saying literally, I am "full of it/crazy/stupid" etc. eh? Proof's in the pudding, QUITE otherwise, as to what is what here & who spouts the fables & it is NOT I... apk

 

[Deleted member 24505]

alec,ive got another 7 points on ya.same speed 4416mhz with explorer and some things stopped.

 

[Casheti]

I tried it WITH the services disabled, and my score dropped by one point back to 922.68

 

[Alec§taar]

alec,ive got another 7 points on ya.same speed 4416mhz with explorer and some things stopped.

There you go... very good!



* Still want more (Canuto nabbed 12 more, GOOD pop, & Casheti (untuned in the BIOS no less)? Also got another 5, & that's NOT done yet either I am certain, I can assure you that much!)

See my last post above, go to my tuning page, not just for benchmarks man... but for a LIFETIME of better/faster Windows performance, because my guide touches on TONS more than DeathStar's here does, tons (kid you not).

* ALL for just 30 minutes of effort on your part, for a LIFETIME of faster performance - I can only lead you to the water, I can't make you drink though.

APK

 

[Alec§taar]

I tried it WITH the services disabled, and my score dropped by one point back to 922.68

It's going to vary as you heat up, you know this already probably. I'd wait until you get COLD evening temperatures, & then test again (patience, a virtue).

APK

P.S.=> As is, yourself & two others (Tigger69 +7 & Canuto +12) show this works, period... keep @ it, keep in mind what I wrote though! apk

 

[mandelore]

Im crying here, been trying every setting for ram under the bleedin sun, WORK DAMN YOU WORK!!! been at this for ages, had to remove bios battery several times. " I will get a better score" or ill explode or beat my machine to death, hold that thought, id seriously regret it later...

Will get in touch soon as I have performed some magical thingy and surprised myself..

 

[giorgos th.]

@Casheti just bad luck.my suggestion in general about benches is run each separate bench after a restart,close some processes that use some cpu AND memory resources and close explorer.exe.that will do the job.beside that,some hardware tweaking will help.

 

[Alec§taar]

Reposting To Back Page For Everyone's Gain...

Apk

 

[giorgos th.]

Alec,no offence but i think all guys got the point......

 

[gR3iF]

its just a impression iam still in tweaking my conroe^^
its getting unstable over 3,4 gig atm dont know why maybe more juice dunno will find out^^
but this 3,3gig are 6 hours prime stable

 

[giorgos th.]

that 965 chipset of yours.....cannot stand of very high fsb.

 

[Casheti]

With optimisations...haven't tried it without