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Most people are getting good results using the 996601 or the 996657 with AM3.
The low voltage sticks (triple kits) designed for i7 are problematic on AM3.

Hi,
I'm looking at buying a used Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P and the seller also has Mushin Ram. He said that he had stability trouble with the two together (I don't know the model number but he said "Timings: 7-7-6-18 1600MHz" so it looks like 996601. Any thoughts?
 

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hey sean i had a question i have an older kit that came during the release of i7

its a 3x2GB kit

1600mhz

9-9-9-25

and im pretty sure one of the sticks is gone..my system has started to get wicked unstable and sometimes when i reboot when im back into windows she will only show up with 4GB instead of 6...the problem is i dont have the packaging anymore im also relatively low on funds is their

A any way i can RMA?

and B. how much would it be do you think?

If you test each stick by itself with MemTest at rated timings do you get errors?

Yes you can RMA if the ram is defective, go here
The only cost will be cost to ship the ram to us.
 

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Hi,
I'm looking at buying a used Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P and the seller also has Mushin Ram. He said that he had stability trouble with the two together (I don't know the model number but he said "Timings: 7-7-6-18 1600MHz" so it looks like 996601. Any thoughts?

With those timings the ram will be 996601.
They should work in that mobo, did he have them in the outer ram slots? Correct settings?
If they don't work correctly you can RMA them.;)
 

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I'm considering getting the XP8000 Redline 2x2GB DDR2 kit. I have an ASUS P5WDH Deluxe motherboard, but it's not listed as supported RAM. (Crucial's 2x2GB kit is also not listed, but their website lists it as compatible). What I'd like to know is if Mushkin can tell me if this Redline model will operate in the P5WDH? Thank-you.

I just wanted to update Mushkin on their compatibility list. This RAM will run on the P5W-DH motherboard at close to it's DDR1000 spec. I installed it on my children's computer and it is running completely stable at DDR 960 IIRC (Im at work). This is in connection with an overclocked 800Mhz FSB E4600 Allendale that is highly overclocked.

Hats off to you for such a good product that it works even when it shouldn't!
 
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Hi,
I'm looking at buying a used Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P and the seller also has Mushin Ram. He said that he had stability trouble with the two together (I don't know the model number but he said "Timings: 7-7-6-18 1600MHz" so it looks like 996601. Any thoughts?

Hey, I just got those sticks in my M4A79T. I'm using the outer DIMM slots and they run at stock timings at stock voltage no problem. Although, moving to a reference speed of 300mhz made getting these sticks to still work at stock timings extremely difficult. I did manage it (because I'm awesome, ;)), but I had to hit home hard with advanced memory timings. One wouldn't have to worry about any of this overclocking with a black edition processor, though.
 

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I just wanted to update Mushkin on their compatibility list. This RAM will run on the P5W-DH motherboard at close to it's DDR1000 spec. I installed it on my children's computer and it is running completely stable at DDR 960 IIRC (Im at work). This is in connection with an overclocked 800Mhz FSB E4600 Allendale that is highly overclocked.

Hats off to you for such a good product that it works even when it shouldn't!

Thanks for the feedback. :)

The biggest issue with that board is the TRFC does not go high enough for 2x2GB sticks, if the TRFC is left on auto you can get the ram to the 950MHz range.

Hey, I just got those sticks in my M4A79T. I'm using the outer DIMM slots and they run at stock timings at stock voltage no problem. Although, moving to a reference speed of 300mhz made getting these sticks to still work at stock timings extremely difficult. I did manage it (because I'm awesome, ;)), but I had to hit home hard with advanced memory timings. One wouldn't have to worry about any of this overclocking with a black edition processor, though.

Yeah things get really wonky at those kinds of speeds, great job :toast:
and your right, a Black Edition CPU would not have those issues.
 

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i just purchased a kit of 998692

can you verify which IC's they have?

im thinking elpida BBSE but hoping for BASE(aka hypers)

thanks in advance. this is my first kit of mushkin ever.
 

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no problem. i completely understand. ;)
 

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I have a question about my Mushkin Redline ddr3 model#998692. I've got the 6gb kit on my evga x58 le mobo and love it. Really fast ram! My question is this, what is the "maximum" recommended vdimm for these ram sticks? I know 1.65volts is the "norm". But for oc'ing what would you sugguest is the max safe voltage? I don't want to fry my memory but I'd like to get my cpu oc'ed a little higher than it is while trying to maintain the 6-7-6-18 timming's. I get bsod'ed at about 1620mhz with 1.65 vdimm. If it matter's I have an aftermarket memory cooler sitiing over them with 2x 60mm fans keeping them nice and cool. Thanks in advance.
 
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I have a question about my Mushkin Redline ddr3 model#998692. I've got the 6gb kit on my evga x58 le mobo and love it. Really fast ram! My question is this, what is the "maximum" recommended vdimm for these ram sticks? I know 1.65volts is the "norm". But for oc'ing what would you sugguest is the max safe voltage? I don't want to fry my memory but I'd like to get my cpu oc'ed a little higher than it is while trying to maintain the 6-7-6-18 timming's. I get bsod'ed at about 1620mhz with 1.65 vdimm. If it matter's I have an aftermarket memory cooler sitiing over them with 2x 60mm fans keeping them nice and cool. Thanks in advance.

1.65v is the maximum safe memory voltage on the X58 platform. Using a memory voltage higher than 1.65 will eventually kill your Core i7 processor.
 

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That is not true, you can boost your memory past 1.65 as long as it stays within .5 of the QPI Voltage an an example would be if you QPI is at 1.250 your Dram could be at 1.7 as 1.250 plus .5 equals 1.750 and is within the .5 range of safety for your CPU. It must be remembered though as with all overclocking you do this at your own risk, it will void most warranties I am now running at 19*205 for 3.9GHz and my redlines are at 1640 with 6 7 6 18 timings at 1.64 Dram voltage
 
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I have a question about my Mushkin Redline ddr3 model#998692. I've got the 6gb kit on my evga x58 le mobo and love it. Really fast ram! My question is this, what is the "maximum" recommended vdimm for these ram sticks? I know 1.65volts is the "norm". But for oc'ing what would you sugguest is the max safe voltage? I don't want to fry my memory but I'd like to get my cpu oc'ed a little higher than it is while trying to maintain the 6-7-6-18 timming's. I get bsod'ed at about 1620mhz with 1.65 vdimm. If it matter's I have an aftermarket memory cooler sitiing over them with 2x 60mm fans keeping them nice and cool. Thanks in advance.

The maximum voltage for this kit is 1.65V, anything beyond that is out of warranty. If you do go higher than 1.65V, don't tell me.
Higher memory voltage is not always the key to higher memory clocks, my kit for example hates anything over 1.60V, even at rated timings and frequency. The key to high memory clocks with x58 is usually CPU VTT. ;)
 

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Thanks for the replies. I'll just go to watercooling gear I just bought and try a little more vcore or cpuvtt. Since this is not the first time someone has made the comment that their Muskin ram liked less than the rated/recommended vdimm I guess I'll have to do some testing at lower voltages. Funny, I've never had to "undervolt" ram to get it to overclock better. But heh, this is my first experience with Mushkin so I'll keep an open mind and try it out.
 

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:banghead:After 8 days of screwing around 10-12 hours a day with these ram modules and having numerous x58 mobo oc'ing pro's/guru's help me with my bios templates I've came to the conclusion that my ram is what is holding me back from anything over 4.214ghz on my cpu. The ONLY way I was able to go this high was to loosen my ram timmings to 8-8-8-20/ @1.65vdimm. I've tried every voltage tweak and even down to try to get them to pass linx or prime blend test at their 6-7-6-18 specs @1600mhz and they simply will not do it. I have numerous member's on the evga 4.0+ghz stability i7 oc'ing club that have the exact same problem with these ram modules. Vdimm and vtt are not the issue as I have pushed both and every other voltage or setting combo both up and down to the max/min safe limits. Guess I'll just have to trade up to the even more over-priced dominator 2000mhz modules. Not a happy camper for $212.99.:mad: I wondered why my mobo company doesn't list this companies ram in their mobo's compatibility lists. I guess because it's not, or at least not 100% "compatiable" at spec settings.:shadedshu
 
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Hello Sean! I'm wondering if you know if these Redlines (996805 - 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 6-8-6-24) Link:http://www.mushkin.com/Memory/Redline/996805.aspx would work allright with an AM3 system?

It is just what I'm looking for, I suppose my only concern (I have limited knowledge with subtimings and I could just be plain wrong alltogether) is AMD is limited to a lower Bank Cycle time and may not go as high as these sticks would like. Your help is appreciated, thanks. :toast:
 
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I just saw this thread for the first time and want to tell you it puts Mushkin up one in my book for taking the time to be involved like this. :toast:
 
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Sean,

Bit of advice required, is there any mushkin ram you would recommend for a Asus Striker II NSE (nvidia 790i chipset). Sitting here with 2GB of OCZ Gold DDR31066, and they are not very friendly:banghead:

Thanks in advance:respect:
 
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Hello Sean! I'm wondering if you know if these Redlines (996805 - 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 6-8-6-24) Link:http://www.mushkin.com/Memory/Redline/996805.aspx would work allright with an AM3 system?

It is just what I'm looking for, I suppose my only concern (I have limited knowledge with subtimings and I could just be plain wrong alltogether) is AMD is limited to a lower Bank Cycle time and may not go as high as these sticks would like. Your help is appreciated, thanks. :toast:

Where as I can't answer your question erocker specifically, I did get a 3x2GB set of those for my i7 set up. Considering I don't really OC much, got this running with some nifty features in my BIOS. http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=997611

Edit: And its running that ram speed at stock volts from the XMP Profile :)
 

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Hello Sean! I'm wondering if you know if these Redlines (996805 - 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 6-8-6-24) Link:http://www.mushkin.com/Memory/Redline/996805.aspx would work allright with an AM3 system?

It is just what I'm looking for, I suppose my only concern (I have limited knowledge with subtimings and I could just be plain wrong alltogether) is AMD is limited to a lower Bank Cycle time and may not go as high as these sticks would like. Your help is appreciated, thanks. :toast:

The simple answer is no, not at this time.
The AM3s don't do well with this type of low voltage memory, on the 1:4 (DDR3-1600) multiplier the best they generally do is CL8.
They would work better on the 1:3.33 divider, not sure if they will get to CL6 though, I have not had a chance to test this kit on AM3.
Hopefully the mobo makers and AMD can work out this tuning problem in the near future.

Sean,

Bit of advice required, is there any mushkin ram you would recommend for a Asus Striker II NSE (nvidia 790i chipset). Sitting here with 2GB of OCZ Gold DDR31066, and they are not very friendly:banghead:

Thanks in advance:respect:

The kit that you want for 790i is the 996657 kit ;)
 

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just wanna say thanks mushkin.. i LOOOOOOVE this ram...

 
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Thanks to Sean and Mike, got me a single 2GB module of the 998805(996805 if you get the 4GB set) so I can run 4x2GB on the P55 FTW. Both were great to deal with.
 
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