How will the 5870 do in real DX11 games????

20mmrain · Nov 23, 2009

I know there is only a couple of ways to really tell this as of right now. I know there is the DX11 heaven benchmark out there also the ladybug one, as well as the Mecha one available too. Sure Battle Forge has some DX11 features......

But if one had to guess how do you think it would do? Do you think it will actually be able to play DX11 titles at high levels?

I go back and forth on this opinion what do you think???? Or do you think it will end up like DX10 was...... nothing could really play it a semi decent speeds until the 8800 came out a generation or two later?

a111087 · Nov 23, 2009

But if one had to guess

lol
the word guess about sums up this whole thread
i wouldn't buy card because of DX11, but i would buy it because of low idle wattage and high performance

dir_d · Nov 23, 2009

Just look at the benchmarks for battle-forge DX10 on a 5870 then compare it to benchmarks running DX11 and make your own conclusion.

ChewyBrownSuga · Nov 23, 2009

Wait for a real DX11 game life dirt 2 to come out

then you will find your answer

AsRock · Nov 23, 2009

a111087 said:
lol
the word guess about sums up this whole thread
i wouldn't buy card because of DX11, but i would buy it because of low idle wattage and high performance

Be better buying one for performance than power saving due to the cost of the card you will not make what it's actually cost to buy a 5870 back.

But anyways "guess" is the key word for sure. Dirt 2 be out soon right ?. Not sure but if it supports DX10 too should be able to get some idea then.

erocker · Nov 23, 2009

DiRT 2 is December 1st.

20mmrain · Nov 23, 2009

Just look at the benchmarks for battle-forge DX10 on a 5870 then compare it to benchmarks running DX11 and make your own conclusion.

See I knew I would get comments like that. Not that you meant it in a bad way........ But if you look at the two benchmarks take example Battle Forge Benchmark and Heaven Benchmark you would get two different type of results. And know I don't mean because they are different applications.
But you would likely get Higher Frame Rates in Battle Forge because it is a lot less graphically demanding or so I believe.(I don't own the game this is going by examples on the net)
But in the Heaven Benchmark you have been seeing a lot lower FPS in that example.

That is why I am asking this question. It's kind of hard to judge.

lol
the word guess about sums up this whole thread
i wouldn't buy card because of DX11, but i would buy it because of low idle wattage and high performance

Also don't get me wrong I love the fact that I can play any game out there with low power consumption and with very very high FPS. So I am not complaining.......and you are right DX11 in it's self is not a good reason to upgrade.
But this is more of a topic to be put out there to see if anyone out there has heard anything I haven't. Maybe they have seen a preview or a review I haven't.

Just a thought..... If not well than I will just wait til December 1st when Dirt2 comes out and find out than.

erocker · Nov 23, 2009

BattleForge is free. You should give it a try. http://www.battleforge.com/en/home/landingpage.bfg

a111087 · Nov 23, 2009

my expectations of next Nvidia cards (~January release, Fudzilla) - higher than 5870 performance, higher than 5870 wattage
I'm guessing you are asking this because you want to know if Nvidia would be better

wiak · Nov 23, 2009

a111087 said:
my expectations of next Nvidia cards (~January release, Fudzilla) - higher than 5870 performance, higher than 5870 wattage
I'm guessing you are asking this because you want to know if Nvidia would be better

you forgot more expensive

a111087 · Nov 23, 2009

wiak said:
you forgot more expensive

and that too, for sure! :roll:

Exeodus · Nov 23, 2009

Have you tried the Stalker - Call of Pripyat(I think that is how it is spelled) benchmark? That game I believe fully supports DX11.

20mmrain · Nov 24, 2009

my expectations of next Nvidia cards (~January release, Fudzilla) - higher than 5870 performance, higher than 5870 wattage
I'm guessing you are asking this because you want to know if Nvidia would be better

Nope sorry bud I am an ATI fan boy here

Not that I haven't owned an Nvidia card before or would ever be opposed to owning another one. I just feel more comfortable with ATI

BattleForge is free. You should give it a try. http://www.battleforge.com/en/home/landingpage.bfg

I did not realize that Yes....... Yes I will try it thank you!

erocker · Nov 24, 2009

By the way, go to Diamonds website. You can get your free copy of DiRT 2 there.

http://www.diamondmm.com/promos.php

I need somebody to race against come the 1st. :toast:

Zubasa · Nov 24, 2009

erocker said:
By the way, go to Diamonds website. You can get your free copy of DiRT 2 there.
http://www.diamondmm.com/promos.php

I need somebody to race against come the 1st.

I guess I will end up buying it.
My card does not come with Dirt2 :ohwell:

At lease it was $30 dollar cheaper I guess. :respect:

ToTTenTranz · Nov 24, 2009

I would be happy to see a full DX10/10.1 engine that isn't a patched DX9 engine, like CryEngine, id Tech 5 and Unreal Engine 3..

Damn you consoles, I want my kewl graphicz!

a_ump · Nov 24, 2009

true dat ToTTenTranz. i'm tired of all these dx10 titles that aren't near as good as they could be or as optimized as they could be due to dx9 patching horse muh-nargh! even though i run a 7800GTX lol

Zubasa · Nov 24, 2009

a_ump said:
true dat ToTTenTranz. i'm tired of all these dx10 titles that aren't near as good as they could be or as optimized as they could be due to dx9 patching horse muh-nargh! even though i run a 7800GTX lol

Exellent for PS3 ports! :laugh:

Lionheart · Nov 24, 2009

hey guys, one question does your HD5870 lag in the Heaven DX11 benchmark because I have been getting quite a bit of lag Im not sure why, when I first got it, it was fine but now it just lags, it only lags when Im in the town parts of the benchmark!

zithe · Nov 24, 2009

CHAOS_KILLA said:
hey guys, one question does your HD5870 lag in the Heaven DX11 benchmark because I have been getting quite a bit of lag Im not sure why, when I first got it, it was fine but now it just lags, it only lags when Im in the town parts of the benchmark!

maybe it's because of your crappy processor. :roll:

erocker · Nov 24, 2009

ToTTenTranz said:
I would be happy to see a full DX10/10.1 engine that isn't a patched DX9 engine, like CryEngine, id Tech 5 and Unreal Engine 3..

Damn you consoles, I want my kewl graphicz!

a_ump said:
true dat ToTTenTranz. i'm tired of all these dx10 titles that aren't near as good as they could be or as optimized as they could be due to dx9 patching horse muh-nargh! even though i run a 7800GTX lol

DirectX 10 is dead. We were all conned into buying really nice DX9 hardware for a while.

Lionheart · Nov 24, 2009

yeah my processor is heaps crap, its outdated already, need to upgrade to an core i20 so i can play crysis 2 on low settings! lol! yeah but seriously i wanna know why its lagging, anyone else getting it!

DX10 is dead, I didn't know DX10 was alive in the first place, cause it was so shit! hahahaha

Robert-The-Rambler · Nov 24, 2009

it is looking really good so far....

erocker said:
BattleForge is free. You should give it a try. http://www.battleforge.com/en/home/landingpage.bfg

After some time messing around with the tutorial I cranked up every setting I could with 4 1 gig 4850s and my Phenom II 920 rig scored a 66 FPS average at 1920 * 1200 without FSAA. It got a bit noisy. (4850 X2 plus two Radeon 4850s)

The I7 920 rig I tested with two Radeon 4890s scored about 55 FPS with the same settings at 1920 * 1200. It was reasonably quiet.

The game is such a gorgeous RTS and a good benchmark because the real performance I'm getting actually reflects true overall system capabilities. The I7 rig was only about 20% behind the Quadfire rig. Not bad at all.

I don't think in Wizard's reviews he is using the highest settings for Battleforge. His numbers are much higher than I'm seeing. There are a lot of settings to play with. I'm a graphics whore save for FSAA so I have to turn everything else all the way. FSAA in an RTS is next to useless. It already looks so good at 1920 * 1200 on a 24" monitor that it simply is not necessary and when I enabled it on either rig the performance loss was not worth it at all.

Thanks again for a really entertaining game/benchmarking utility that we all should embrace. :toast:

shevanel · Nov 24, 2009

Hey Chaos,

Do you have any aps running in the background? (i know thats a common thing people already know to check, but you'd be surprised how much it can affect benching)

Also, try running the bench with HT off.

And as far as your Nb, do you have a fan on it or just stock?

Lionheart · Nov 24, 2009

shevanel said:
Hey Chaos,

Do you have any aps running in the background? (i know thats a common thing people already know to check, but you'd be surprised how much it can affect benching)

Also, try running the bench with HT off.

And as far as your Nb, do you have a fan on it or just stock?

I noticed it happening when i installed the 9.11 drivers, when I had the 9.10 it was working fine, but i will try your suggestions, and I only got antivirius programs running in the background and I turn em off when I benchmark which isn't alot :ohwell:

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