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Hi Friends ...

As u can see in my system spec. I have Intel E4500 @3GHz and Palit 4850 512 mb Sonic (740/1100) ...

I have some doubts in my mind ...

Is my E4500 bottleneck to 4850 ???

Is their any need to upgrade my system ???

If yes then which one CPU or GPU ???

Reply soon guys ...
 

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nope, seems fairly balanced to me


i'd replace the CPU first
 

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Have you had any problems playing the games you like?
You may want to try to oc your cpu, but I don't think you should have any bottleneck issues.
 
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Have you had any problems playing the games you like?
You may want to try to oc your cpu, but I don't think you should have any bottleneck issues.

Yes i face problem in games ...

Now I m playing Wolfenstein, feel some lagging in game ...

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Then I agree (of course with Mussels) and would look at upgrading your CPU~
 
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So Pls suggest me good CPU for upgrade ...
 

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Yes i face problem in games ...

Now I m playing Wolfenstein, feel some lagging in game ...

that might be due to your 2GB of ram

my suggestion would be 4GB of ram and windows 7 64 bit (your CD key for 32 bit works fine in x64)

after that, find a 45nm intel CPU with 6MB of cache - something like an E8400 or E8500
 
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How is Q9400 ???
 

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How is Q9400 ???

while its a quad core, its got the cache reduced. since most games only use two cores, those games would benefit from a higher clocked dual core with more cache, than a cut back quad


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http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB6B
Q9400

its techincally two dual cores on the one chip, so it has 2x3MB cache to make 6MB total. That means any games that use two cores or less, only have 3MB of accesible cache

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLAPK
E8500 is a dual core, with 6MB total cache (same amount) so any program (1 or two cores used) has all 6MB available

then you factor in the 500Mhz difference, and its a no brainer - the dual core is a far better choice for gaming
 
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that might be due to your 2GB of ram

my suggestion would be 4GB of ram and windows 7 64 bit (your CD key for 32 bit works fine in x64)

after that, find a 45nm intel CPU with 6MB of cache - something like an E8400 or E8500

+1 for the E8xxx i have one in my rig witha 4850 and im getting great performance, just lettin you no froma guy who has a rig alitle similar
 
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But Quad core is better for Future Gaming ...
 

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But Quad core is better for Future Gaming ...

only if you buy one with the full cache.


The thing is, games may use more cores over time - but performance of the first core is still going to be the main factor to your performance. they cant split the game into more and more threads, they just move tasks over.


lets say they make core 1 for graphics, core 2 for AI, core three for sound, core 4 for anything left over.

we all know that graphics is going to need the most CPU power and sound is going to need shit all - but the way this stuff works, core 3 and 4 cant help with core 1. the entire application would be limited by the speed of that one core.


So yes - a dual core is better for the immediate future and 1-2 years, and then it comes out even for a while (compared to this budget quad core)

but shit - in 4 years, he'll likely have a new PC
 
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If i upgrade my CPU now then for next 2-3 years no chance of upgrade CPU ,thr4 ask about quad core ...

Can u suggest any Quad core with the full cache ???
 

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Q9450 would be the cheapest, but if you intend to overclock its not an easy one due to the low multiplier.

its also got that ~500Mhz disadvantage for modern games
 
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Q9450 would be the cheapest, but if you intend to overclock its not an easy one due to the low multiplier.

its also got that ~500Mhz disadvantage for modern games

I dont know anything about "~500Mhz disadvantage for modern games" ...

Can u pls explain ????
 

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I dont know anything about "~500Mhz disadvantage for modern games" ...

Can u pls explain ????

quad core at 2.4Ghz
dual core at 3.16GHz


any programs that use two cores or less are going to get a nice boost on the dual core, from the higher clocks.

even games that use 3/4 cores might see a boost on the dual core, the MHz/raw power can matter more than the amount of cores


edit: since you may not be clear, MHz is a measurement of time. 4x2GHz doesnt equal 8GHz - its four clocks ticking away at the same time (or four engines at the same RPM) - they can each carry their own load at different tasks, but they cant make each other go faster, or work harder
 
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E8xxx series would be better.. or Q9550 is you have the cash lol
 
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quad core at 2.4Ghz
dual core at 3.16GHz


any programs that use two cores or less are going to get a nice boost on the dual core, from the higher clocks.

even games that use 3/4 cores might see a boost on the dual core, the MHz/raw power can matter more than the amount of cores

Ohh..

So Dual core is much better than Quad core in Games ...

I think Dual core like E8400/E8500 is better upgrade for 1-2 years ...

Any other suggestions for increase performance of my system ???
 

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a q9450 o/c to 3ghz or 3.2 is no prob for one of these chips...ive had mine as high as 3.5 for 24/7 usage
 
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Ohh..

So Dual core is much better than Quad core in Games ...

I think Dual core like E8400/E8500 is better upgrade for 1-2 years ...

Any other suggestions for increase performance of my system ???

i think you should add some more rams
 

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Ohh..

So Dual core is much better than Quad core in Games ...

I think Dual core like E8400/E8500 is better upgrade for 1-2 years ...

Any other suggestions for increase performance of my system ???

i already said that, another 2GB of ram and a 64 bit operating system.

32 bit operating systems are capped at 2GB per program, with 64 bit its 4GB in 32 bit programs and as much ram as you have for 64 bit programs - its definitely a future proofing you'll need, as games these days are already pushing the 2GB boundary
 
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How is AMD phenom 2 x3 720 BE compare to E8400/E8500 ???

in gaming.. E8500 are a little better compare to 720. 720 is tri core and had advantage in multi-task. but you could always o.clock the 720 for some great performance
 

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720's are pretty good.

the information i gave was based on intel, since thats the system you have - you go a 720, and you'll need a new motherboard as well.
 
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720's are pretty good.

the information i gave was based on intel, since thats the system you have - you go a 720, and you'll need a new motherboard as well.

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