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You need to be online to log in and the game will pause if internet connection is lost (joy! :rolleyes: ) but you can carry on. Therefore being online isn't strictly necessary?
The way I took it, you can play without being online but you won't be able to save. In other words, you are wasting your time playing without a connection.


Will Ubi's system allow game backups like Steam does?
It says nothing about backups so I could only guesss.
 

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JUst a thought, this DRM would not be needed if the game was brought though Steam or even D2D would it ?.

So maybe it's only on hard copys ?.
 
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Are you kidding me? Do you know how many people have crappy connections? The whole industry is heading for a MAJOR crash. Mark my words.

O stop with the end of the world bs...

Im in the settlers beta and i can vouch this is not bad at all.
 

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cool, no more cd checks .. it will just be like with steam .. people will make emulators, problem solved.
this will give you much faster pirate releases because you won't have to wait for a crack. just run a generic emu, done. this method works on all steam games TODAY. and you can download most games from steam as well without purchasing them

of course this fucks over everyone without internet, slow internet, firewall (i doubt it can work through ALL firewalls as they claim), merchants (game is on tpb much earlier than they have it in store) and finally ubisoft who make less money now from the evil piratez

what happens if i buy the game, install it, realize it needs internet, but i dont have internet ? can't i return the game? wewt free cd key
 

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JUst a thought, this DRM would not be needed if the game was brought though Steam or even D2D would it ?.

So maybe it's only on hard copys ?.
Steam is the source for a lot of pirate copies so this might be Ubisoft's response to that (same protection for all delevery methods). I highly doubt Steam would be spared.


O stop with the end of the world bs...

Im in the settlers beta and i can vouch this is not bad at all.
I am in agreement with MailMan; this is heading rapidly for a train wreck.

Ubisoft wouldn't pay to protect a beta. Betas often don't have any protection at all except an expiry date.


what happens if i buy the game, install it, realize it needs internet, but i dont have internet ? can't i return the game? wewt free cd key
Most stores have a no returns policy on opened software for that very purpose.
 
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Simple, don't pirate, and don't play if you dont like it.

You missed my point. Im waiting for the day when DRM inconveniences people who steal the game more than people who buy it.

Why would I pay for a more inconvenient version of the game, that can disable itself and make me jump through hoops to install it, when I can get the same game without that for FREE?

Yeah. Exactly.

I would actually pay more $$ for a version of the game without the DRM.
 

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what?

Steam is the source for a lot of pirate copies so this might be Ubisoft's response to that (same protection for all delevery methods). I highly doubt Steam would be spared.

No? where do you even get that from? you rarely ever see individual cracked games taken from Steam installs, unless it is Steam Exclusive.

as far the cracked Steam itself, downloading/installing all games for free - from everything I read you can't get ALL games, and it only ever last a few days to a week or so at a time.
 

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rant.. sorry :/

I would suppose the conjecture that matters like DRM are, in fact, in place to force PC gamers away from the PC to game.

Think about it. Where do these developers get most of their income from?
Consoles.
The very platform that most developers, still, presume to be almost angelic, in that they cannot be copied, or at least making copies is damn near impossible.
Of course, we all know that not to be true in the least.

I'm 100% cynical about the whole reason behind DRM, as it's applied, almost without exception, to the PC.

Perhaps we need a company like Philips to oversee this sort of stuff. Sony, at one stage, wanted to introduce a type of DRM on music CDs.
Philips countered with 'fine, but then you cannot sell these as CDs'. Sony retracted almost instantly.
We all know just how much CD sales have plummeted because of a lack of DRM.
Wait.. maybe it was because of the illegalities of the implementation.
Nah.. the RIAA is always right, of course!
So they blame the mp3 format.
OK, that didn't work either.

Another issue is Intellectual Property. Many average home users (which pretty much excludes us TPU! members), do not understand that, yes, you own that Windows/COD4 CD/DVD. No, you don't own the program that's on said CD/DVD.
They get confused as hell about that bit.

The point remains, that if it's crackable, it will be cracked. Whether by digital means (let's ban peer-to-peer file-sharing!), or by simply using a black marker on the edge of the [cd/dvd]disc (let's ban all black markers!).

The support of one's favourite artist/game[developer] will be there, because you think it's worth it.
Piracy has become more rife because of DRM, in whichever form, rather than in spite of it.

In the end, read the box/FAQ before purchase. If it has a type of DRM you disagree with (including the 'must have internet to play' mantra/requirement), don't buy it.

/rant

My apologies for the four-letters use of Sony & RIAA
 

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No? where do you even get that from? you rarely ever see individual cracked games taken from Steam installs, unless it is Steam Exclusive.
To have that discussion would violate the TOS of TechPowerup. :p


I'm 100% cynical about the whole reason behind DRM, as it's applied, almost without exception, to the PC.
Put behind that the fact that most games today are protected by SecuROM and SecuROM is a product of Sony DADC, you're most likely right.
 

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Put behind that the fact that most games today are protected by SecuROM and SecuROM is a product of Sony DADC, you're most likely right.

I almost forgot about that.. You're quite right.
 

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No? where do you even get that from? you rarely ever see individual cracked games taken from Steam installs, unless it is Steam Exclusive.

it's extremely easy if you know what to do (have the right tools). for the release groups, such steam releases are not as clean as the typical no-cd approach, that's why you see them only on steam-exclusives
 

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I will say that some release groups have taken an unprotected Steam executable and released it as a no-cd for the retailversion of the game. Other groups scoff at their laziness and remove the protection from the retail version of the game anyway.

Remember, the reason why these groups do it (for the most part) is because they like the challenge. It is like solving a puzzle to them-a battle of wits.
 
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so i cant play any of the games on my long road trips on my laptop!? i can't survive a 18 hour drive with no games! save me! just sayin
 

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I'd be most concerned about people with capped bandwidth. This is going to steal a lot of your monthly usage. And for what? Just to appease Ubisoft? Bad excuse.
 
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ummm, . . . . . this isn't gonna even dent piracy . . . . . .

all pirates will do is make a program to fake the checks and emulate a connection

steam is a better alternative
 

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Making the buyers hackers too. Well that's clever too now not only pirates know how to the buyer will learn how.

I guess we have to be great full that it's not against any law to use no cd get around and such as long as you payed for it :) :).
 
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Didn't take the time to read all the posts but...

Doesn't this just hurt sells instead of save them.

Cause now you have people not buying cause they don't have internet

and

People still pirating the game

lol

Funny. Who the heck is doing is this. I must slap him in the face. If its a her, do... other things.
 
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Didn't take the time to read all the posts but...

Doesn't this just hurt sells instead of save them.

Cause now you have people not buying cause they don't have internet

and

People still pirating the game

lol

Funny. Who the heck is doing is this. I must slap him in the face. If its a her, do... other things.

Please... continue... :laugh:
 
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I think Ubisoft doesn't understand how the internet works. Not everyone has reliable access to the internet.

And they seem even more unaware of how business works. You don't make money from targeting pirates who'll never pay instead of attracting new customers. Should focus less on DRM and more on content.

Get with the times Ubisoft

 

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so i cant play any of the games on my long road trips on my laptop!? i can't survive a 18 hour drive with no games! save me! just sayin

Good grief man, concentrate on your driving!
 
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Phew, I was worried there for a minute....
 
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Audio Device(s) Realtek @ ONBOARD
Power Supply Fortron 400W
Software Windows 8.1 64-bit
That's kewl!
 
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Location
Switzerland, Heart of Europe
System Name Fractality 1.0
Processor Intel Core i7-860 @ 3.6GHz
Motherboard EVGA P55 SLI
Cooling Prolimatech Megahalems and four Fractal Design 120mm fans, sleeved
Memory 16GB Kingston Hyper RAM
Video Card(s) PNY GeForce 580 XLR8
Storage 64GB and 180GB SSDs / 1TB and 2TB HDDs
Display(s) 24" Acer V243W
Case Fractal Design Define R2, sleeved all I/O cables
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply Corsair HX750W modular, sadly only stock sleeving
Software Win 7 64bit
Zuxxez made it right with Earth2160. Input a key, activate via Internet, and if you don't have internet, call a toll free number with BRUCE WILLIS' voice guiding you trough the activation process. Unlimited numbers of installs and activations possible. And no internet required. That worked very well.

That was also when you didn't need to have 1000 accounts on some developers sites to login to play a game... see Dirt 2.
 
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