BioShock 2

[Triprift]

I was talking about the way the game looks overall not that.

 

[Mussels]

I was talking about the way the game looks overall not that.

i'll find out how good/bad it is, installing it now... lady friend left, so i got the rest of the day for BS2

 

[kurosagi01]

well heres my screenshot of the game@1680x1050 maxed.
i'll put it in a spoiler just in case i might ruin it for some people.

Spoiler

 

[Triprift]

Hopefully ill finish it today still on the damn Persephone level.

 

[Phxprovost]

Hopefully ill finish it today still on the damn Persephone level.

really? i found it to be the easiest level...though maybe its because all of my weapons and plasmids were fully upgraded by then

 

[Triprift]

I obviously dont have super skills at Bioshock 2 that you have then.

 

[Lionheart]

lol I found game easy and really enjoyable, playing throught it again on hard mode!

 

[LiveOrDie]

i played though it on hard only really died on the last few levels now im wait for a patch to come out to fix the sounds, and hope some one makes a mod like the 1st game to make it harder.

 

[Mussels]

i played though it on hard only really died on the last few levels now im wait for a patch to come out to fix the sounds, and hope some one makes a mod like the 1st game to make it harder.

speaking of sound, is it just me or does this game only support 2.0 sound?

 

[LiveOrDie]

i was using my G35 head set i change the sound from 2ch to 7.1 and sounded like it worked

 

[Triprift]

lol I found game easy and really enjoyable, playing throught it again on hard mode!

Im old thats my excuse or just dont have the skills.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Only gripe is its in Unreal 2.5 (Sorry, but in my perspective, aside from the water eye candy, graphics really is outdated) .. Textures are low res and character models are weak.. other than that, its an ok straightforward game..

 

[Mussels]

Only gripe is its in Unreal 2.5 (Sorry, but in my perspective, aside from the water eye candy, graphics really is outdated) .. Textures are low res and character models are weak.. other than that, its an ok straightforward game..

for DX10, it does look rather bland

 

[D007]

Only gripe is its in Unreal 2.5 (Sorry, but in my perspective, aside from the water eye candy, graphics really is outdated) .. Textures are low res and character models are weak.. other than that, its an ok straightforward game..

Agreed..

for DX10, it does look rather bland

Doubly agreed.

It could of looked sooooo much better.
Still ok though.

 

[AsRock]

Did you guys know this is running off the Unreal 2 engine? Thats not a typo. The Unreal Two engine. Chalk another one up to consolitus. Low polygon count and crappy textures FTL.

Pssh, funny as it's the only game i like that uses Unreal 2 engine. And it's not always about graphics.

This games wiered'n'strange with a good story\gameplay without that it be the typical unreal engine which to be honest they are all pretty sucky.

 

[D007]

Actually it's the unreal 2.5 engine.
It does have a few crummy looking things that are very obvious.
pink trees, circular things that are clearly polygonal.
but those are more of a developers choice than a engine limitation when I think about it.
It's very easy to make a perfect sphere in 3d.
It is not hard to render one with current graphics at all.
Idk why they took the lazy route and left some things like they did.

The textures are .. well.. weak.. yes they are.. just admit it.. very weak..

All in all the game still looks plenty nice with great lighting effects.
The lighting and shading effects are gorgeous.
They make up for the lack of AA and the polygons.
The story as well more than makes up for it, so far.

Still a lazy choice to go with the old engine though.

EDIT, Correction: vengeance 2 engine for both bioshock 1 and 2.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Pssh, funny as it's the only game i like that uses Unreal 2 engine. And it's not always about graphics.

This games wiered'n'strange with a good story\gameplay without that it be the typical unreal engine which to be honest they are all pretty sucky.

Actually it's the unreal 2.5 engine.
It does have a few crummy looking things that are very obvious.
pink trees, circular things that are clearly polygonal.
but those are more of a developers choice than a engine limitation when I think about it.
It's very easy to make a perfect sphere in 3d.
It is not hard to render one with current graphics at all.
Idk why they took the lazy route and left some things like they did.

All in all the game still looks plenty nice with great lighting effects.
The lighting and shading effects are gorgeous.
They make up for the lack of AA and the polygons.
The story as well more than makes up for it, so far.

Still a lazy choice to go with the old engine though.

Well the first Bioshock ran off the Unreal 3.0 engine so this is a pretty big downgrade IMO.

 

[D007]

Oh that just makes it ultramagelame then.
I totally spaced the original had the 3 engine.

Thats just all kinds of weak to sell me a newer version of a game, with an older engine, for the same money.
When the new engine was available.
kind of a slap in the face.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Oh that just makes it ultramagelame then.
I totally spaced the original had the 3 engine.

Thats just all kinds of weak to sell me a newer version of a game, with an older engine, for the same money.
When the new engine was available.
kind of a slap in the face.

Yup. AND the first one was DX10 also.

 

[AsRock]

Yup. AND the first one was DX10 also.

BS2 is DX10 too it says right on the back of the box. Not as if it makes any real difference anyways.

BS1
Unreal Engine 2.5[citation needed] with some Unreal Engine 3 features; Havok Physics

BS2
Unreal Engine 2.5 with some features from UE 3; Havok Physics[2]


I always though both BS1 and BS2 were made with the same game engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioShock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioShock_2

 

[TheMailMan78]

BS2 is DX10 too it says right on the back of the box. Not as if it makes any real difference anyways.

BS1
Unreal Engine 2.5[citation needed] with some Unreal Engine 3 features; Havok Physics

BS2
Unreal Engine 2.5 with some features from UE 3; Havok Physics[2]


I always though both BS1 and BS2 were made with the same game engine.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioShock
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioShock_2

I stand corrected.

Just to let you know its called the Vengeance 2 engine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vengeance_engine

I'm my defense there were a lot of article's at the time that stated it was the Unreal 3 engine.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/29/bioshocks-helping-hand-to-unreal-engine-3s-image/

 

[D007]

Funny, vengeance 2 says HDR..
Do u see HDR?
I don't think I see any HDR.

and wth?
I'm totally confused now..lol
bioshock 1 still had dx10..
So how was it the same engine?
something isn't sitting right with me here.
doesn't make sense.

your right though.
There are all kinds of bad articles even now.
google it. ^^
people everywhere think it's the unreal engine. 2.0, 2.5, 3.0..lol
are they related to vengeance maybe?

 

[Lionheart]

I didnt know it was using the old unreal engine 2.5 or something, I thought it was using the latest unreal engine, thats until i realized the low quality textures, but the thing is the graphics dont bother me, too me they look quiet good because of the artwork and atmoshere they put into the world of rapture, its dark and gritty sometimes as well as colorful too, i like it alot, I mean better graphics would be a good thing but I would prefer than to put some DAMN AA in the game engine but I heard those engines dont get along with AA, oh well, great game anyways.

 

[D007]

Patch time lol..
It fixed my lag issues.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=115454

Still got the key binding issue though.
But I can work around it so no biggie.
Oh the joys of porting..

Also when you start the game it says "UNREAL" so it has to be related..
Or we're missing something..lol

 

[AsRock]

I didnt know it was using the old unreal engine 2.5 or something, I thought it was using the latest unreal engine, thats until i realized the low quality textures, but the thing is the graphics dont bother me, too me they look quiet good because of the artwork and atmoshere they put into the world of rapture, its dark and gritty sometimes as well as colorful too, i like it alot, I mean better graphics would be a good thing but I would prefer than to put some DAMN AA in the game engine but I heard those engines dont get along with AA, oh well, great game anyways.

Same here and i think it could be were AvP has gone wrong by not doing the same as i think dark area's should not have all the details as if they were in plain sight.

Patch time lol..
It fixed my lag issues.

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=115454

Still got the key binding issue though.
But I can work around it so no biggie.
Oh the joys of porting..

Also when you start the game it says "UNREAL" so it has to be related..
Or we're missing something..lol

Just modified 2.0 and named it 2.5 is all just like VBS1 were they made OFP1 out of it and just tweaked the engine.