TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[[Ion]]

All I got from RICE was silver. Oh well. Waiting for RICE 2.

edit:
Heres a shot of the new 965BE I brought online today. This one will be fun... 3.9GHz, but under volted to 1.34v. Lots of head room left on this one.
http://img.techpowerup.org/100415/untitled.jpg

That's an incredible chip you have there!
I am so irritated that I didn't know the difference between the two Phenom II X4 955s Newegg had and I picked up the $10 cheaper one (C2). It takes more voltage and doesn't clock as well

 

[Velvet Wafer]

if he holds that stable with 2800+ NB and probably 1.3 NB-CPU, i also would be very impressed!

 

[[Ion]]

if he holds that stable with 2800+ NB and probably 1.3 NB-CPU, i also would be very impressed!

Excuse my lack of knowledge of AMD CPUs, but what is NB-CPU and 2800+ NB?

 

[Chicken Patty]

@ fourstaff

gotcha bro. We can always send some parts to college

 

[Velvet Wafer]

Excuse my lack of knowledge of AMD CPUs, but what is NB-CPU and 2800+ NB?

CPU-NB (had a twist in there) is the voltage feeding the phenoms internal memory controller, which speed is responsible for increasing the L3 Caches speed, mainly its write speed.
With 2800+ NB, i mean 2800mhz NB or more
you never heard of that possibility to gain more speed and snappyness on phenoms?

 

[[Ion]]

CPU-NB (had a twist in there) is the voltage feeding the phenoms internal memory controller, which speed is responsible for increasing the L3 Caches speed, mainly its write speed.
With 2800+ NB, i mean 2800mhz NB or more
you never heard of that possibility to gain more speed and snappyness on phenoms?

All I've done with my Phenom II is up the multiplier up to 18.5x and increase the voltage
I haven't spent much time playing with it because of heat issues (ordering H50 for this very reason)

 

[Velvet Wafer]

All I've done with my Phenom II is up the multiplier up to 18.5x and increase the voltage
I haven't spent much time playing with it because of heat issues (ordering H50 for this very reason)

i would aim for a higher NB, at least 2400mhz, for more optimal performance and system responsiveness. your proc should do that on stock CPU-NB volts, and the 3.4, should be possible, even with undervolting it by a fair amount
have you tried undervolting yet?

 

[[Ion]]

i would aim for a higher NB, at least 2400mhz, for more optimal performance and system responsiveness. your proc should do that on stock CPU-NB volts, and the 3.4, should be possible, even with undervolting it by a fair amount
have you tried undervolting yet?

Yep, I'm running at 3.4ghz but 1.28v...I tried 1.20 and it was unstable (rebooted randomly under WCG), I'll try 3.4ghz and 1.24v or maybe I'll try 3.6ghz and 1.3v

 

[blkhogan]

This chip is very stable at low volts. I plan on uping the NB to around 2400 to 2500 first, then I will try and find its top end. My other 965BE needs a lot more volts to get 4GHz stable (1.504v). This one is is at 4GHz @ 1.42v @ 47c. It will boot at 4.1GHz 1.42v, but I havent stressed it much. Having a blast with this one. I got it to boot at 3.4GHz (stock) on 1.28v, but she was a little shaky. Will post some screens when I start pumping it up.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

This chip is very stable at low volts. I plan on uping the NB to around 2400 to 2500 first, then I will try and find its top end. My other 965BE needs a lot more volts to get 4GHz stable (1.504v). This one is is at 4GHz @ 1.42v @ 47c. It will boot at 4.1GHz 1.42v, but I havent stressed it much. Having a blast with this one. I got it to boot at 3.4GHz (stock) on 1.28v, but she was a little shaky. Will post some screens when I start pumping it up.

my 955 is pretty stable at 3.4ghz 1.28v,2800NB 1.325v for crunching and linx! dont be shy!

Ion, sounds good so far! how are the temps?

 

[Fourstaff]

Would there be any significant difference between running a Athlon II X4 and a Phenom II X4 at same clockspeed?

 

[[Ion]]

my 955 is pretty stable at 3.4ghz 1.28v,2800NB 1.325v for crunching and linx! dont be shy!

Ion, sounds good so far! how are the temps?

Upper 40s to mid 50s depending on the room temp, ~47c now but it was up at 55c a couple days ago. I'm planning on an H50 shortly, which should help

Would there be any significant difference between running a Athlon II X4 and a Phenom II X4 at same clockspeed?

Not really, maybe a couple % max

 

[blkhogan]

Would there be any significant difference between running a Athlon II X4 and a Phenom II X4 at same clockspeed?

You would see a slight advantage with a PII over an AII in bench marks. But everyday use you wouldnt see any difference IMHO. The Athlons dont have L3 cache on them like the Phenom II does.

 

[hat]

I'd like to see a chip with 3MB L1 cache per core and no other cache...

 

[GREASEMONKEY]

Would there be any significant difference between running a Athlon II X4 and a Phenom II X4 at same clockspeed?

7 day averages

Pll B50@3.2 XP 32bit=2015 boinc per day
Pll B50@3.4 Vista 64 bit=2119 boinc per day
Ath ll 630 @3.3 server 2008 64 bit=1939 boinc per day

All Quad cores running at 100%. And all very close

 

[XZero450]

I'd like to see a chip with 3MB L1 cache per core and no other cache...

Would take awhile as the point of L1 is to have an extremely low latency data reserve, and larger size creates more latency. This and the cost of the typical L1's is extremely high due to it's performance level..

It would be awesome, but not economically feasible or beneficial today.

 

[Radical_Edward]

Trying to get some of my friends on Facebook to crunch for us.

 

[[Ion]]

Good luck!
I've tried (mostly unsuccessfully) to get my friends to join as well, hopefully things work better for you

 

[Radical_Edward]

I have a few good computer buddies. We'll see.

 

[p_o_s_pc]

I am back on water now so i am crunching at 3.9ghz again

 

[ERazer]

I am back on water now so i am crunching at 3.9ghz again

nice!

well im still one cruncher down, im deciding to get 5850 or 5870 with water block

 

[p_o_s_pc]

what do i need to get lower temps? I'm still sitting at
63c 58c 64c 59c
with the Swiftech MCR220 rad(coming from the Koolance HX-720) with about the same temps. I also have a 140mm rad on the way...
So what is limiting me? Block?pump? fans? rad(s)?

 

[blkhogan]

nice!

well im still one cruncher down, im deciding to get 5850 or 5870 with water block

If your undecided, take the better of the two. So you dont second guess yourself afterwords.

 

[Velvet Wafer]

what do i need to get lower temps? I'm still sitting at
63c 58c 64c 59c
with the Swiftech MCR220 rad(coming from the Koolance HX-720) with about the same temps. I also have a 140mm rad on the way...
So what is limiting me? Block?pump? fans? rad(s)?

your block is your biggest limitation, followed probably by the rad... i also found it always difficult to even cool a phenom properly on a single swiftech 220 (i also have one).
it gets oversaturated after a while of crunching.
your pump power should be sufficient, but just think of following scenario: the pump lets a small amount of water travel extremely fast thru your rad, where it gets barely cooled, before it retravels, and is again used to cool the proc. over the time, the rad fails to keep the temperatures down, because the small surface of the 220 cant dissipate the steadily increasing temps.

whats also critical is the room temp... with 1 window open, and no door open, i can get up to 10c° better temps.

to sum it up:
if you want to improve your liquid cooling system, its like Tuning a Car. you also can improve, as you knew i do
you will have to pay a little bit otherwise (i would recommend you a new block also, if its affordable)

ah, and btw,i find, thats one of the most difficult things to de-bottleneck... if you open a bottleneck, something other of your loop will become the new main bottleneck instantly... its endless
you just need to find an arrangement that fits your the best!

 

[(FIH) The Don]

nice!

well im still one cruncher down, im deciding to get 5850 or 5870 with water block

powercolor has made some with EK waterblocks mounted, then you dont loose warranty etc