Need upgrade for BC2

Zen_ · Apr 19, 2010

Currently running:

e5200 @ 3.75 GHz
XFX 4770 @ 875/1000 MHz
MSI Neo3-F
2x1GB Muskin DDR2 6400
Akasa AK-965
550w Corsair VX

Looking to upgrade to:

Phenom II X4 955BE - $160
GPU- ???
Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 - $80
2x2GB whatever is on sale DDR3 1600
Sunbeamtech Core Contact Freezer - $25
620w Seasonic S12II - $80 (want to use old PSU in another rig)

I'm really undecided about video cards and whether I should even upgrade at all. BC2 is suppose to be quad optimized (according to DICE, like they would ever exaggerate right). I get 45-100 FPS as is in 32 player servers with all low settings and no AA/AF @ 1680x1050, but big time dips in high action and when there's lots of destruction physics, which makes me think I really do need a quad. And I'd like to get back on an AMD platform anyway. Would also like to get 4GB ram for Win 7 64 bit but it doesn't seem to make much sense to buy more DDR2 at this point time.

Video cards, it hardly seems worth it to upgrade to a 5770 from a 4770 (not worried about DX11 yet). The 5830 got mixed reviews but has come down to around $225. The 5850 is still running around $300 and I think the only one that will fit in my case are the older reference models because it seems most of the newer custom PCB's are the longer 5870 PCB. I have 10.75" to work with for a graphics card. Also considering a used 4890 if a Sapphire Toxic comes up on eBay. Just not sure here though...

Any advice would be great.

Mussels · Apr 19, 2010

quads not needed, just a better video card.

slap a 5770 in there and you wont need much else changed (more ram would be good, and you'd better go an x64 OS

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Jamborhgini313 · Apr 19, 2010

BC2 loves Quads. Don't upgrade PSU. That PSU has 41amps which is enough for a Quad and any Single Video (except GTX 400's). I would upgrade the CPU, Mobo and Card

boomstik360 · Apr 19, 2010

He could find a nice 775 quad for cheap and slap it in there

The other way would just be for a better upgrade path. Either way would work great.

Mussels · Apr 19, 2010

boomstik360 said:
He could find a nice 775 quad for cheap and slap it in there

The other way would just be for a better upgrade path. Either way would work great.

775 quads dont really have any good value for money chips.

IMO video card first (my 2x 4870's cant max it out smoothly all the time, his 4770 would be struggling) and then work on a core system upgrade next (i5/AM3)

Nick89 · Apr 19, 2010

Zen_ said:
Currently running:

e5200 @ 3.75 GHz
XFX 4770 @ 875/1000 MHz
MSI Neo3-F
2x1GB Muskin DDR2 6400
Akasa AK-965
550w Corsair VX

Looking to upgrade to:

Phenom II X4 955BE - $160
GPU- ???
Gigabyte GA-770TA-UD3 AM3 - $80
2x2GB whatever is on sale DDR3 1600
Sunbeamtech Core Contact Freezer - $25
620w Seasonic S12II - $80 (want to use old PSU in another rig)

I'm really undecided about video cards and whether I should even upgrade at all. BC2 is suppose to be quad optimized (according to DICE, like they would ever exaggerate right). I get 45-100 FPS as is in 32 player servers with all low settings and no AA/AF @ 1680x1050, but big time dips in high action and when there's lots of destruction physics, which makes me think I really do need a quad. And I'd like to get back on an AMD platform anyway. Would also like to get 4GB ram for Win 7 64 bit but it doesn't seem to make much sense to buy more DDR2 at this point time.

Video cards, it hardly seems worth it to upgrade to a 5770 from a 4770 (not worried about DX11 yet). The 5830 got mixed reviews but has come down to around $225. The 5850 is still running around $300 and I think the only one that will fit in my case are the older reference models because it seems most of the newer custom PCB's are the longer 5870 PCB. I have 10.75" to work with for a graphics card. Also considering a used 4890 if a Sapphire Toxic comes up on eBay. Just not sure here though...

Any advice would be great.

DO NOT GET the Sunbeam tech core contact freezer. It is a POS.

I did a review on it.

Zen_ · Apr 19, 2010

I thought about getting a used Q6600 or Q9550, but the 775 platform is dead and I know this mobo won't overclock well with low multiplier CPU's like the quads that need to go 400+ FSB for a good overclock.

Thanks for the heads up on the CCF too, what are some good heatsinks that mount sideways (blowing out the back) on AM3 sockets? Also needs to be under 170mm tall to fit in my case. Zalman CNPS10X maybe?

Hayder_Master · Apr 19, 2010

nice chose for upgrade, GPU 5770 looks nice or if you handle more money for 5850 and core i5 system will be great

OnBoard · Apr 19, 2010

I game BC2 in 1680x1050 HBOA off, details&effects medium rest high 2xAA/8xAF and still get over 50fps with 5770.

It would be a perfect card for you. low->med is a whole different looking game.

Wile E · Apr 19, 2010

Video card is the most important factor in gaming. Spend the most money there. You may also just be a little short on ram, thus the lag spikes. 2GB is not enough for some of the newest games anymore.

Overall, I'd say you don't need a quad. Just more ram and a better video card.

HalfAHertz · Apr 19, 2010

Wile E said:
Video card is the most important factor in gaming. Spend the most money there. You may also just be a little short on ram, thus the lag spikes. 2GB is not enough for some of the newest games anymore.

Overall, I'd say you don't need a quad. Just more ram and a better video card.

100% agreed. Keep your current system and just add 2gb more and a nice 5850/ 470. You could get a sige 5770 as well for now and later when it can't keep up, upgrade to CFX if your board supports it. Corsair makes some decent PSUs so you shouldn't have any problem with that

BarbaricSoul · Apr 19, 2010

well it does look like a quad might help him some, this is after playing the level snowblind in BF:BC2

If you can find a decent deal on a quad, go for it, but a new GFX card would definently give a better performance boost. First thing I would get would be a 5850/gtx470 and go from there.

BTW, that spike on the first 3 core was me completing the level

Mussels · Apr 19, 2010

a quad would help, but 775 quads arent worth it - thus get the viddie first.

Zen_ · Apr 19, 2010

Think I'll go with the MSI Hawk 5770, overclocked it looks like a great value for gaming at @ 1680x1050.

Still undecided about a heatsink, read Nick89's post and some others complaining about the Core Contact Freezer poorly fitting on AM2/AM3 sockets. I want a 120mm tower cooler that can mount with the fan pushing air out the back rather than up into the PSU. Doesn't look like the CNPS10X Quiet or HDT-S1283 can do that. Anyone know about the Hyper 212 Plus or Thermalright Ultra 120?

TheMailMan78 · Apr 19, 2010

Mussels said:
775 quads dont really have any good value for money chips.

IMO video card first (my 2x 4870's cant max it out smoothly all the time, his 4770 would be struggling) and then work on a core system upgrade next (i5/AM3)

Wait what? Your two 4870s have a problem with it? Why? My single 5850 eats it up.

Zen_ said:
Think I'll go with the MSI Hawk 5770, overclocked it looks like a great value for gaming at @ 1680x1050.

Still undecided about a heatsink, read Nick89's post and some others complaining about the Core Contact Freezer poorly fitting on AM2/AM3 sockets. I want a 120mm tower cooler that can mount with the fan pushing air out the back rather than up into the PSU. Doesn't look like the CNPS10X Quiet or HDT-S1283 can do that. Anyone know about the Hyper 212 Plus or Thermalright Ultra 120?

Dude if two 4870s have an issue running it maxed out the 5770 will get raped.

boomstik360 · Apr 19, 2010

I have an msi hawk 5770 brand New in box I'll sell you for 160 shipped.

boomstik360 · Apr 19, 2010

My friend has an i7 setup with a 5770 runs it on max with like 45 min gps, forgot which res I think it was 1080p. He said on high

TheMailMan78 · Apr 19, 2010

boomstik360 said:
My friend has an i7 setup with a 5770 runs it on max with like 45 min gps, forgot which res I think it was 1080p

I don't doubt you man but if Mussels is having an issue with two 4870's then a 5770 has no hope. Of course thats assuming Mussels rig is running at 100%.

boomstik360 · Apr 19, 2010

He runs it on high not ultra. Unless he is lying to me. Look up battlefield bad company 2 performance it shows it for th 5770 too. Seriously I will find the link

boomstik360 · Apr 19, 2010

http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-company2-performance/page5.html

TheMailMan78 · Apr 19, 2010

boomstik360 said:
http://www.techspot.com/article/255-battlefield-bad-company2-performance/page5.html

Like I said. I didn't doubt you. I just question Mussels results compared to yours.

boomstik360 · Apr 19, 2010

No I know lol I just wanted to back myself up anyway. Mussels have you tried the 10.4 beta's? Sooo much better lol

kid41212003 · Apr 19, 2010

I believe his current card is as fast as 8800GT?

I had the 8800GT, and FPS was reasonable in medium setting and DX9 (>40).

BC2 have alot of physics, and it depends alot on CPU. So I think he will get better min FPS with a quad-core, higher-unstable FPS with better vids.

EDIT: beside the all the new gen cards are expensive (premium price).

Wile E · Apr 19, 2010

I have a 4870X2, and I can max it with HBAO off. HBAO on causes lag spikes (and I don't think it looks as good anyway).

TheMailMan78 · Apr 19, 2010

Wile E said:
I have a 4870X2, and I can max it with HBAO off. HBAO on causes lag spikes (and I don't think it looks as good anyway).

I used to get lag with HBAO also. However with the 10.4 it runs like a dream now.

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