Need Help. New System. AMD X6 1055T, Crosshair IV

[JSampson]

didn't you say you like racing games, im playing Need For Speed Shift right now, and ill tell u if the frames were any slower i would be very pissed, because the game looks amazing, and 5850 handles it well. it is worth every penny, man i would ditch the aftermarket cpu cooler and even borrow money to make sure gaming department is taken care of

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Antec1200 filter project

Sounds like a good plan. I will take your advice on that.

Here's the deal. I am borrowing my mother's credit card to do all of this. No, Im not spoiled or anything cause I have to pay her back by July. I just have to give my friends desktop back to him next week, but I need to continue looking for jobs and I need a computer to do that.

I just have a budget. If I dont, then she gets the computer, cause she needs a computer or she will just sell it to pay the card back off.

 

[JSampson]

Ok, so I am going to take ya'lls advice and go with the 5850 and drop the CPU Cooler. Would the Rosewill RCX-Z300 92mm Ball CPU Cooler be better than the stock CPU Cooler for $14.99? Rosewill RCX-Z300 92mm Ball CPU Cooler

Now which one? I really like the Saphire 5850. The cheapest I have found on the intenet stores is $339.99 on Tigerdirect.

I have found the following on Ebay:

ATI Brand ATI Radeon: $289 = Free Shipping
PowerColor ATI Radeon: $299 + Free Shipping This is already OC'd to 760Mhz. But Ill be OCing anyway so this shouldnt matter, right?
Sapphire ATI Radeon: $299 + Free Shipping
MSI ATI Radeon: $310 + $15 Shipping

Here are the following findings on newegg.com
Computer Hardware,Video Cards & Video Devices,Desk...


Let me know if the link above does not work.
Any brand better than the others? Any worse than the others? I remember when buying my Geforce 2, the Leadtek Geforce 2 GTS was the best one out of all of the Geforce 2's.

Thanks again guys. Im getting closer to making my purchases! I forgot how much fun this was.

 

[BraveSoul]

i like the Gigabyte one on newegg, its factory overclocked and runs cooler
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Antec1200 filter project

 

[JSampson]

After doing further research, it looks like Ill need to upgrade my Windows from XP to Windows 7 to get full potential of my setup, is this correct fellas?

 

[Mussels]

After doing further research, it looks like Ill need to upgrade my Windows from XP to Windows 7 to get full potential of my setup, is this correct fellas?

yeah... XP has been dead for years.

 

[codyjansen]

After doing further research, it looks like Ill need to upgrade my Windows from XP to Windows 7 to get full potential of my setup, is this correct fellas?

DX 11 FTW

 

[JSampson]

Dang... Are all prices for Windows 7 the same or are there cheaper places to buy? Maybe a combo of Windows 7 with any of the components I am building my system you have came across?

 

[Mussels]

Dang... Are all prices for Windows 7 the same or are there cheaper places to buy? Maybe a combo of Windows 7 with any of the components I am building my system you have came across?

look for OEM versions, they tend to be cheaper. Also, stick with home premium or pro (google for the differences)

 

[Fourstaff]

look for OEM versions, they tend to be cheaper. Also, stick with home premium or pro (google for the differences)

Or if you are a student, they offer discounts the last time I checked. Dunno whether its still up.

 

[JSampson]

Regarding my HDD setup. I picked the Western Digital SATA 6Gb/sec 1TB Caviar Black ($104.99) but then found the SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache.

I was given advice in this thread to find a lower storage HDD for running my windows. So hear is my other question. Should I get two 500's and Raid them? I have RAID capabilities on my old MSI board and was really enthused about it, but never utilized it. I am already over my budget so I gotta figure something out. I can deal with 1 500gb drive and then add on another. I have several regular ATA/133 HDD lying around.

Lastly, I stumbled on something I havent figured out the difference on. I am researching on the board in the Motherboard selection on this site, but whats the difference between the Asus Crosshair IV Formula and Crosshair IV Extreme? They look a little different but im frazzled.

Sorry for all of the questions, but I really appreciate ya'lls help. Like I said earlier in another reply, Im getting closer and closer to buying everything.

 

[JSampson]

look for OEM versions, they tend to be cheaper. Also, stick with home premium or pro (google for the differences)

I actually just did that. Premium and Pro will allow me to run XP software which is something I will need.

Or if you are a student, they offer discounts the last time I checked. Dunno whether its still up.

I am actually looking at taking some Supervisor and Manager classes in June. Thanks for the idea

 

[lilkiduno]

With Budget in mind I would suggest one of these two cases, Decent prices and Airflow. I personaly have used both of them. Although I don't know if they would fit a Sexy 5850 inside! haha
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Com...
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC...
PSU:OCZ $70, free shipping, $25 dollar MIR and did i mention it's modular?
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V S...

 

[JSampson]

With Budget in mind I would suggest one of these two cases, Decent prices and Airflow. I personaly have used both of them. Although I don't know if they would fit a Sexy 5850 inside! haha
Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Com...
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition VL80001W2Z Black SECC...
PSU:OCZ $70, free shipping, $25 dollar MIR and did i mention it's modular?
OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V S...

Hey, thanks for all of that! Definately keeping my budget in mind. I am looking for a case that has some Plexi on the side to show my sexy set up, but those towers are nice. I really like the black painted internal casing of these towers. Plus the power supply on the bottom is something I have been looking for.

I may still have to go with a tower that my dad let me borrow in the mean time. Its a top mounted PSU, can that PSU be mounted upside down? (120mm top mounted fan on the PSU)
I know thats not a good idea cause that would just blow hot hair onto my CPU and internals and heat rises.

 

[JSampson]

So I just priced everything and I am a bit over my budget. Here is what I compiled

AMD Phenom X6 1055T: $190 from ewiz.com

Crosshair IV Formula: $225 from amazon.com @ buy.com

Sapphire Toxic: $349 from Ewiz

Bgears BG01183 b-Tarantula 550W SLI/CrossFire: $39.99 (w/ $10 mail in rebate) zipzoomfly.com

Corsair XMS PC12800 RAM - 4GB, (2x2GB), DDR3, 1600MHz: $99.99 tigerdirect.com

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb: 89.99 + Free Ship newegg.com -
I was really hoping for an SATA III Drive like the WD Caviar Black SATA III
Western Digital WD5001AALS Caviar Black 500Gb: $59.95
HELP?

Total
$993.97 with the Samsung F3

I need to be around the $800 mark.
This is without a new case, fans, and CPU Cooler
Is it REALLY worth the extra $ to go with the 5850 although I have now fell in love with the Sapphire Toxic 5850?
This also doesnt include Windows 7 Professional but I hope my dad (IT) with that.

I will be searching the classifieds for all of the above equipment.

 

[JrRacinFan]

If you can't get the video card there's always later once you get more spending budget. I HIGHLY suggest you not skimp on power supply, just think one day while your gaming it goes poof and take's all your hardware with it.

Oh and unless you're going to be into benching and heavy overclocking I really don't think you should get the CH4, the board and budget don't mix, and also drop down to a 5770.

Sorry I just don't see it happenning with that kind of budget. $1000 yes, $800 no.

This I do see happenning though. Overbudget by the cost of a dvd burner:

PSU+CPU (Getting psu almost half price)
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

Mobo+GPU
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

HDD+Case (Getting case half price)
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

Ram:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 ...

DVD Burner:
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R D...

 

[JSampson]

If you can't get the video card there's always later once you get more spending budget. I HIGHLY suggest you not skimp on power supply, just think one day while your gaming it goes poof and take's all your hardware with it.

Oh and unless you're going to be into benching and heavy overclocking I really don't think you should get the CH4, the board and budget don't mix, and also drop down to a 5770.

Sorry I just don't see it happenning with that kind of budget. $1000 yes, $800 no.

This I do see happenning though. Overbudget by the cost of a dvd burner:

PSU+CPU (Getting psu almost half price)
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

Mobo+GPU
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

HDD+Case (Getting case half price)
Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...

Ram:
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 ...

DVD Burner:
Sony Optiarc Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R D...

I already have a DVD Burner along with a CD RW 52x.

I will be overclocking my card, cpu, and memory so that is one reason why I picked the Crosshair IV.

Im not going to skimp on my PSU, but I found a great deal on a nice one that was recommended to me.

 

[JSampson]

Hey guys. One more question and Im ready to make my purchase. I am looking to buy a WiFi night vision CCVT camera to watch my driveway. $37k truck and a $12k motorcycle with a crazy ex gf who got back with her ex husband and guess what? He knows where I live now. So is there anything I need in order to record up 58 hours of surveillance onto my hard drive? I am ok with making it into a seperate drive from anything else. Exclusive surveillance drive only. Does the Crosshair IV come with the required hardware? I have read that I need a TV Capture Card. Could all of this be included on my Crosshair IV or my ATI 5850 or 5770? Thanks guys!

 

[JrRacinFan]

Any links to the camera? I beleive all you would need is a wireless G router.

EDIT:

Something like this?
http://bestgiftsaround.com/Skynet-One-IP-Security-Camera-WIFI-DVR-Night-Vision-P879774.aspx

I work in the security and alarm monitoring business, and that would be one of the cheap simple easy solutions rather than setting up a dedicated DVR.

 

[Hellfire]

If it is something your worried about I'd recommend a separate DVR recorder, If you use your current PC it means it will stop recording every time you turn it off or stop recording.

Something basic like a 4channel DVR recorder with a 500gig harddrive will offer days and days of recording. We use a 16channel with a 1TB drive at work and get 14days continuous loop out of 1TB (basically it keeps looping keeping 14days worth,

Any half decent coax cable will do, to view it all you need to do is log into the DVR (via IP Address) and you can even then have remote access IE if your at work you can view it via remote log on.

 

[i3uu]

I'm actually looking for something similar to you But I have a few suggestions/comments:

Since you said you are out of a job, I personally would suggest NOT buying a higher end build because you will drain your bank(this is assuming that you will not have a job in the near future and that you do not have a high budget as of now).

I noticed that you said you mostly want to do normal stuff/gaming. Not really video encoding and other things that require multiple cores for performance. Since this is the case, I would highly suggest getting either a dual core OR this:
AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cach...

That amd x3 ^ (with the right motherboard) can actually be unlocked to allow it to have 4 cores instead of 3 which is an awesome amount of bang for your buck!

But if you insist on the powerful X6 and if you feel like you have the money for it, look at this combo: Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...
I'm looking at it right now and it seems pretty nice. ~$600+GPU+dvd drive+whatever else you want.

Or, i'm actually looking to sell my pc I built last year that is awesome for gaming. Check my system specs for information. I'd sell it all minus the 1tb hdd and the gfx card.

But in any case, good luck with your build and make sure you do all the research you need!

 

[El_Mayo]

I'm actually looking for something similar to you But I have a few suggestions/comments:

Since you said you are out of a job, I personally would suggest NOT buying a higher end build because you will drain your bank(this is assuming that you will not have a job in the near future and that you do not have a high budget as of now).

I noticed that you said you mostly want to do normal stuff/gaming. Not really video encoding and other things that require multiple cores for performance. Since this is the case, I would highly suggest getting either a dual core OR this:
AMD Athlon II X3 435 Rana 2.9GHz 3 x 512KB L2 Cach...

That amd x3 ^ (with the right motherboard) can actually be unlocked to allow it to have 4 cores instead of 3 which is an awesome amount of bang for your buck!

But if you insist on the powerful X6 and if you feel like you have the money for it, look at this combo: Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, L...
I'm looking at it right now and it seems pretty nice. ~$600+GPU+dvd drive+whatever else you want.

Or, i'm actually looking to sell my pc I built last year that is awesome for gaming. Check my system specs for information. I'd sell it all minus the 1tb hdd and the gfx card.

But in any case, good luck with your build and make sure you do all the research you need!

I have the AMD X3 425

It's alright... but not really great for HIGH END gaming

I'd get AT LEAST a 720BE the unlock that

or a Phenom II X4 925