GTX 570 or Radeon HD 6970?

[DriedFrogPills]

I have wanted to upgrade my 5850 for a while now, but I wanted to wait and see how the 6970 did. Now, having seen W1z's review, I am unsure of which card I should get, the 570 or 6970. So I have come to ask for your recommendations. Which would you get and why?

I was thinking of getting either:
1) SAPPHIRE 100311SR Radeon HD 6970 2GB 256-bit GDDR5...
2) EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB...
If you know of any better deals, link 'em to me!

IF the 6970 was at RRP then i would say it. Int he same boat with a 5850. I am thinking of waiting until both the GTX6X0 and the HD79X0's to come out, and just oc the 5850 in after burner to around 900mhz on the clock and be done with it

 

[DriedFrogPills]

570

Better drivers, less power consumption, cooler temperatures, CUDA, Physx and better folding. and overall better raw GPU power.



Assuming ati can get their act together with drivers.

Now im not being all Bias towards ati because of as you can see my username is nvidiaintelftw. I had a HD5870 before my 470 and it was terrible. all drivers caused microstuttering with ONE card and the 2d clocks were always messed up with ever driver update. Now im on this 470 and its amazing! nvidia for now on


I see the 6970 as being a fail of a card right now. cant even beat a GTX480 in 70% of games and AMD has 2 generation chances to beat it. and basically they havent yet. (single GPu cards. not the 5970. thats a different level in my book) The true winner out of AMD new releases in the 6950. no one should buy the 6970. theres no point wasting that $80 for 5% or lower increase. the HD6950 is faster clock for clock and faster per dollar you spend

Mind you ATI has never released a driver that was so fail it caused the fan to stop spinning and kill cards like nVidia did this year

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Mind you ATI has never released a driver that was so fail it caused the fan to stop spinning and kill cards like nVidia did this year

And they fixed that didnt they in the the next release? (hmmm thats funny because ati still hasn't fixed a lot of cf issues and other stuff with their drivers in the last 4 or 5 releases) Either way i didnt have my 470 when that driver was released.

 

[DriedFrogPills]

the next release was too far away for all the owners of the cards it killed

 

[MxPhenom 216]

the next release was too far away for all the owners of the cards it killed

im pretty sure it was like a week later or they had a hotfix released like 3 days later

 

[DriedFrogPills]

so its ok when nVidia release a hotfix but not AMD? though the 10.12's where not that great BSOD'ing like mad when OC'd thorugh overdrive.

but still a new driver a week later is still too late if your card was already fried

 

[Maelstrom]

Sorry I haven't responded recently, been traveling and have been busy.

y don't u get 5850 to cf..it's good.

Not an option, using an mATX board that has only 1 pcie 16 slot

It's probablly best appropriate to answer the question yourself by answering these questions.

1. What will you use the card for?

2. What games do you play most often?

3. After answering question one and two, which card gives you the best performance for what you want to do with it and for what games you play?

Hmm, good questions. I was thinking of maybe starting to fold, but most of the games I play aren't all that demanding. Maybe I'll just stick with my 5850, idk.

Thanks to all those who responded.

 

[DriedFrogPills]

if you do want to start folding the 5850 is going to be a good folding card ONCE the AMD GPU3 client is released until then its not going to set the earth alight in F@H

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Sorry I haven't responded recently, been traveling and have been busy.


Not an option, using an mATX board that has only 1 pcie 16 slot



Hmm, good questions. I was thinking of maybe starting to fold, but most of the games I play aren't all that demanding. Maybe I'll just stick with my 5850, idk.

Thanks to all those who responded.

Folding? not to demanding? could get GTX470? they can be had for about $250 now on the egg.

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB...

 

[MxPhenom 216]

if you do want to start folding the 5850 is going to be a good folding card ONCE the AMD GPU3 client is released until then its not going to set the earth alight in F@H

i thought GPU3 already released and it was a disappointment??

 

[Maelstrom]

Folding? not to demanding? could get GTX470? they can be had for about $250 now on the egg.

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB...

I feel like though, if I'm going to actually buy a new card, I should at least get one that's a big step up.

My resolution is roughly the same, so I don't feel a 470 would be worth it, as it's roughly only a 4% increase, whereas a 570 (or 6970) is around a 23% increase.

 

[DriedFrogPills]

i thought GPU3 already released and it was a disappointment??

nope not yet released still for the AMD crowd, for nVidia cards its been out for ages

 

[Thatguy]

And they fixed that didnt they in the the next release? (hmmm thats funny because ati still hasn't fixed a lot of cf issues and other stuff with their drivers in the last 4 or 5 releases) Either way i didnt have my 470 when that driver was released.

say wtf ????? some of the problem with CF scalling was hardware driven, not driver driven.Have you seen the CF scalling on the 68xx and 69xx series cards ?? are you freaking joking ? the 5 series hardware will likely never scale that well.

 

[cookiemonster]

Hi I read an article that said the 570 worked better with intel sandy bridge, and having an AMD mobo that puts me at a disadvantage right away so i think i will stick with AMD and go for the XFX 6970 and if AMD drop the price in future I can allways get another one, thanks for all the oppinions above.

 

[Thatguy]

Hi I read an article that said the 570 worked better with intel sandy bridge, and having an AMD mobo that puts me at a disadvantage right away so i think i will stick with AMD and go for the XFX 6970 and if AMD drop the price in future I can allways get another one, thanks for all the oppinions above.

smells like intel marketing BS to me.

 

[DriedFrogPills]

That and sandy bridge isnt out yet

 

[Jamborhgini313]

If I were to choose, 6970>GTX 570 but the 500 series are so quiet and they over like insane

 

[Athlon2K15]

get an 6950 they unlock

 

[cheezburger]

go for gtx 570, you wont see much different from 5850 to 6970 in most of game except game with higher tessellation. however gtx 570 will just do much better in newer tessellation game and older texture/pixel heavy game and buff shader game that ported console as well. not to mention it has physx and cuda and more rop/bus bit width and insane pixel fill rate compare to 6970's poor fill rate that's already squeezed off from extreme clocked 32 rops/256bit gpu.

if you have more budget then putting extra 70 bucks you will get a much nicer gtx 580. some gtx 580 is now below $500 with tax.

 

[Solaris17]

go for gtx 570, you wont see much different from 5850 to 6970 in most of game except game with higher tessellation. however gtx 570 will just do much better in newer tessellation game and older texture/pixel heavy game and buff shader game that ported console as well. not to mention it has physx and cuda and more rop/bus bit width and insane pixel fill rate compare to 6970's poor fill rate that's already squeezed off from extreme clocked 32 rops/256bit gpu.

if you have more budget then putting extra 70 bucks you will get a much nicer gtx 580. some gtx 580 is now below $500 with tax.

why? the 570 is a damn good card but with a 6970 its cheaper and while the performance might be slightly lower then the 570 its amazing for the price. not to mention while physx is fun and cool etc. lets face it for $4xx you better not buy the card just for physx. why not save a few bucks and buy a nice steak or maybe some mazza sticks (only if eaten with ranch marinara is for pansies.)

 

[rick22]

Get the 6970..don't be stupid like cheezburger

 

[Athlon2K15]

Get the 6970..don't be stupid like cheezburger

 

[rick22]

lol..i'm so smart

 

[cheezburger]

why? the 570 is a damn good card but with a 6970 its cheaper and while the performance might be slightly lower then the 570 its amazing for the price. not to mention while physx is fun and cool etc. lets face it for $4xx you better not buy the card just for physx. why not save a few bucks and buy a nice steak or maybe some mazza sticks (only if eaten with ranch marinara is for pansies.)

nope...there's noway a gtx 570 can cost 400 bucks...

PNY VCGGTX570XPB GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 32...

Get the 6970..don't be stupid like cheezburger

tell me how worth can you get if you have a 6970. under the same price range gtx 570 is a bit better than 6970.

 

[Solaris17]

nope...there's noway a gtx 570 can cost 400 bucks...

PNY VCGGTX570XPB GeForce GTX 570 (Fermi) 1280MB 32...



tell me how worth can you get if you have a 6970. under the same price range gtx 570 is a bit better than 6970.

in what tests other then physx? also how bout after overclocking? also cdan i have a list of games that support tessilation? im curious.