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I wish this DRM nonsense would stop, now it's being built into hardware?

where does it end?
 
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LoLz. It's interesting to see the comments.

How do you protect your stuff? Your family? Yourself?

This is artists protecting themselves. They HAVE TO PUT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD. becuase nothing like honor exists for most people today. those not part of the industry wil lnever understand, and that's OK, but OMG...

Wrong. They already got mugged by the labels so they're not protecting anything. They already willingly "sold" those songs to the labels. The labels now owns those songs, it just so happens that they were the creators.

Don't forget that when one artist himself made a torrent of all his songs, his label filed legal action for that.

I remember as well when some Latin American singer's contract has already expired, Sony-BMG Music still keeps on distributing his albums to stores, and even justified it as "cleaning out the stock", wherein no mention was ever made for that in the now-finished contract. And because the contract was already done, they don't have to pay the singer anything for those newer copies of the album sold. IIRC the singer already won the case and got paid substantially.
 

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If DRM leads to job creation, and maybe helps the economy, I'm all for it. It defiantely isn't going to make jobs dissappear.

Entropy...don't bring contracts into it...That's just stupid people not understanding what they sign. There are idiots everywhere.
 
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you assume you are going to keep buying DVDs (BR, CDs, whatever)...ponder that;)

My issue isnt so much on what this DRM may cause me in pain later, I'm more worried about the window it opened.

exactly the window it is opening what i said earlier, you think this is small, whats next putting monitoring chips in the processor, but nobody will think thats a big deal, im of course exegerating this to make a point, this is a bad bad sign.
 
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This is where big spending companies start to remove the "P" from PC.

I know you're playing devils advocate dave but DRM won't have any impact on the economy. :wtf:
 

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Someone who is not an artist wil lnever understand the purpose or intent of DRM, as they have no "need" for it.

But suck it up, princess...if you want to watch my movies, or listen to my music, you'll do it how and when I say, as they are not just entertainment...they are part of me as a person, and character.

You steal parts of me, I'm coming to your house to take them back. You take my mind, I take your soul. :laugh:

The problem is, unless you are good at marketing and self publish you are only getting 1-10 cents per song. That $7 single you make $6 is eaten by a failed business model. Have you seen the freeware game marketing idea? These game companies gave away their games for a donation of 0-XXX$ dollars. Their content was good, and they made over a $500,000 dollars in donations.

How good is your content? If I don't buy it, you don't put a gun to my head.
 
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I wish this DRM nonsense would stop, now it's being built into hardware?

where does it end?

It shall never stop! Next : there'll be drm in women/men, which I guess will try to prevent males from hacking into other females than their gf's/wifey's and vice versa. At least this one works both ways! :laugh:
 

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It shall never stop! Next : there'll be drm in women/men, which I guess will try to prevent males from hacking into other females than their gf's/wifey's and vice versa. At least this one works both ways! :laugh:

Nah, you'll just need a captcha to kiss, a captcha to touch...you get where I'm going....?

How good is your content? If I don't buy it, you don't put a gun to my head.

True. but with so many users living on the seas of piracy, there's no other option but to hold a gun to EVERYONE's head.
 

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LoLz. It's interesting to see the comments.

How do you protect your stuff? Your family? Yourself?

This is artists protecting themselves. They HAVE TO PUT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD. because nothing like honor exists for most people today. those not part of the industry wil lnever understand, and that's OK, but OMG...


Someone who is not an artist wil lnever understand the purpose or intent of DRM, as they have no "need" for it.

But suck it up, princess...if you want to watch my movies, or listen to my music, you'll do it how and when I say, as they are not just entertainment...they are part of me as a person, and character.

You steal parts of me, I'm coming to your house to take them back. You take my mind, I take your soul. :laugh:

You live in a reality where artists work like corporations. Protip: They usually don't. I download tons of music from artists THAT WANT ME TO DOWNLOAD THEM FOR FREE. If I like it, I buy the CD's some of them are selling. Not all of them do though.

I'm usually ok with DRM, but this is a bit too much.
 
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Nah, you'll just need a captcha to kiss, a captcha to touch...you get where I'm going....?

Jeez, so that means no quickies? I'll be damned! :roll:
 
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Entropy...don't bring contracts into it...That's just stupid people not understanding what they sign. There are idiots everywhere.

The contract was already THROUGH, so your point was inconsequential. The issue there is that Sony kept on selling his albums even without a contract. IIRC the singer got paid but only by the amount "earned" by the newer albums sold after litigation. Sony was quite willing to "pirate" his music too LOL


Don't forget that the RIAA claims TPB "stole" $382 trillion, i.e. 46 times all of the dollars in the world that exists.
 

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You live in a reality where artists work like corporations. Protip: They usually don't. I download tons of music from artists THAT WANT ME TO DOWNLOAD THEM FOR FREE. If I like it, I buy the CD's some of them are selling. Not all of them do though.


Thank you. Yes, this would be the right way to do it, however, what precluded the ability to do something like this was investment.

Investors want to guarantee thier investment, and DRM is one of those guarantees.


No real artist WANTS DRM, but it's a fact of life if you want INVESTMENT.
 

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Maybe if they just killed all torrent sites and all porn sites and all music sites and all facebook sites there would be no need for DRM ?
 
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This is artists protecting themselves. They HAVE TO PUT A GUN TO YOUR HEAD. because nothing like honor exists for most people today. those not part of the industry wil lnever understand, and that's OK, but OMG...


Someone who is not an artist wil lnever understand the purpose or intent of DRM, as they have no "need" for it.

But suck it up, princess...if you want to watch my movies, or listen to my music, you'll do it how and when I say, as they are not just entertainment...they are part of me as a person, and character.

You steal parts of me, I'm coming to your house to take them back. You take my mind, I take your soul. :l

that is absolutely ridiculous, especially with the number of ARTISTS who absolutely disagree with the practice.
not to mention, i would like to call you a number of names for ASSUMING that the majority of people are pirating. that is A JOKE.

these methods will do NOTHING to stop the real act of pirating. it will not stop people downloading ripped dvds or buying one on the street, and that is where the majority of it is done.
i don't give a flying $#%^ what you feel you need to do for yourself, you put a gun to my head for whatever reason, literally or metaphorically, you are - some more of those names i will not type , out of respect for TPU alone.

you need to get over yourself dave, your WANTS do not supersede my RIGHTS.
 
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Thank you. Yes, this would be the right way to do it, however, what precluded the ability to do something like this was investment.

Investors want to guarantee thier investment, and DRM is one of those guarantees.


No real artist WANTS DRM, but it's a fact of life if you want INVESTMENT.

Those investors must be stupid then because it failed, is failing, will fail, will have failed, will be failing, would be failing, etc. LOL
 

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might as well kill the internet.

Yeah this would make them happy . I just want them to stop crying and whining about this shit is all . Maybe this will make them stop once and for all . But no this will only happen when they have complete control over the internet and all the content there of .
 

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you need to get over yourself dave, your WANTS do not supersede my RIGHTS.

Actually ,i tihnk you got it wrong. Your rights shall not impose conditions on others' rights.

You don't have any right to buy a PC without DRM. Please show me where that right is set in stone, and I'll agree with you. I do have a right to protect my intellectual property, however.


I'm also very financially secure..i bet that makes you jealous, too.

Those investors must be stupid then because it failed, is failing, will fail, will have failed, will be failing, would be failing, etc. LOL

Sure. and that's where the real issue is, isn't it. I write a song, I want people to have it, spread it around, and if they like it, to toss me a bone.

But those I sell the music too...they want to protect that sale.

I don't want to sell my music...but I gotta, to feed my family. So I go see those investors, and I play by thier rules...not mine.
 
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Yeah this would make them happy . I just want them to stop crying and whining about this shit is all . Maybe this will make them stop once and for all . But no this will only happen when they have complete control over the internet and all the content there of .
and not even then will it stop. with complete control they can only LIE further about the effect piracy has.

"those people with cameras in their glasses. being the only way they can record from their own television, are ruining the industry!"
 
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As long as it doesn't interfere with fair use, it doesn't really matter.
 
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Actually ,i tihnk you got it wrong. You rights shall not impose conditions on others' rights.

You don't have any right to buy a PC without DRM. Please show me where that right is set in stone, and I'll agree with you.


I'm also very financially secure..i bet that makes you jealous, too.

jealous? so you assume i'm not(financially secure)? you also assume i don't create for a living?

grow up dave, and get over yourself. you do not have a right to have hardware installed on my computer, for any reason whatsoever. I do have a right to the reasonable expectation of privacy, and of PRIVATE INDUSTRY, let alone GOVERNMENT, not taking my rights as a consumer away from me.
 

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When will you people really see the light NO ONE HAS rights ! The facts are in front of your face . Corporations and big business run the world the constitution is just a piece of paper no longer guarantying rights or granting them !
 
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Making billions and billions of dollars is obviously not enough for these people, they want more.
 
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