bottleneck? Gaming @ 1920X1080

[mp3boy]

hi guys...my new system specs are in my profile...basically

i7 950@ 4.16ghz
ASUS p6x58-D
8gb ddr3 ram (i have 12gb installed but bio only recognizes 8...figured that was decent enough...lol too lazy to rma)
msi gtx 570
1x 1tb caviar black
700 watt modxstream pro (ocz)

wondering if I should raid0 the caviar black's but I'm wondering whether I should spend the $80 for another one

cheers

 

[jellyrole]

RAID will make things snappier, but a single drive is not bottlenecking that system. Honestly, I would try and find a decent used 60GB solid state drive instead of adding another hard drive.

 

[mrsemi]

Are you saying you are bottlenecking? It's triple channel ram right, 8 gigs running it in dual channel mode?

 

[mp3boy]

Are you saying you are bottlenecking? It's triple channel ram right, 8 gigs running it in dual channel mode?

Hi Mrsemi,

well it's kinda complicated...haha i started a thread to see if i could troubleshoot that one too ;P

TRI-Channel difficulty

and an ssd hmm...would i see an fps increase in general?

 

[jellyrole]

Maybe a few FPS more, but really not much, if any.

 

[mrsemi]

Why do you think you're bottlenecking? Low fps in a specific game?

 

[TheGrapist]

I've got an ocz 60gb ssd if your interested

 

[mp3boy]

Mrsemi- some rts games still lag when there are a ridiculous number of units on screen...since the i7 is so highly clocked and the GPU is so powerful it must be the hard drive? (IE starcraft 2 and c&c3)

The Grapist: don't believe in dealing online...sorry mate nothing personal

 

[JrRacinFan]

mp3boy

You wouldn't see ANY increase in FPS with an SSD. You want an increase in FPS? Get another gtx570 or overclock your current one.

 

[Anusha]

Mrsemi- some rts games still lag when there are a ridiculous number of units on screen...since the i7 is so highly clocked and the GPU is so powerful it must be the hard drive? (IE starcraft 2 and c&c3)

The Grapist: don't believe in dealing online...sorry mate nothing personal

guess you have to stop playing those games.
if your rig can't handle them, there can't be any that can.

P.S.
an SSD won't make any difference other than level loading time and faster game saves. FPS won't increase. but if there is stuttering due to a lot of disk activity (not an FPS drop), you might get smoother game play.

 

[Bo$$]

check your overclocks...

 

[Anusha]

check your overclocks...

I'm sorry, I cannot see how his overclocks can make some strategy games run SLOWER. It should make them run FASTER, right? Unless of course the CPU is throttling, but I doubt that is the case, as he seems to be using a water cooler.

 

[Error 404]

I'm sorry, I cannot see how his overclocks can make some strategy games run SLOWER. It should make them run FASTER, right? Unless of course the CPU is throttling, but I doubt that is the case, as he seems to be using a water cooler.

If the overclock is unstable, or it is but the CPU/GPU doesn't quite have enough voltage going through it, then in my experience that can result in a significant decrease in performance.
For example, I get a higher 3DMark score with my 4870's core running at 810 MHz than I do at 840 MHz, both of which are "stable".

 

[Anusha]

If the overclock is unstable, or it is but the CPU/GPU doesn't quite have enough voltage going through it, then in my experience that can result in a significant decrease in performance.
For example, I get a higher 3DMark score with my 4870's core running at 810 MHz than I do at 840 MHz, both of which are "stable".

I don't know why that is, really. But I doubt it has anything to do with power. Maybe it has something to do with clock syncing with memory? But I didn't think that has any effect any more.

 

[Nailezs]

hi guys...my new system specs are in my profile...basically

i7 950@ 4.16ghz
ASUS p6x58-D
8gb ddr3 ram (i have 12gb installed but bio only recognizes 8...figured that was decent enough...lol too lazy to rma)
msi gtx 570
1x 1tb caviar black
700 watt modxstream pro (ocz)

wondering if I should raid0 the caviar black's but I'm wondering whether I should spend the $80 for another one

cheers

if you're bought those drives in the lat 2 or 3 years than you will not be able to raid them

WD made it so that only their RE drives can do raid. good "wd raid" or wdtler for more info

 

[Bo$$]

I don't know why that is, really. But I doubt it has anything to do with power. Maybe it has something to do with clock syncing with memory? But I didn't think that has any effect any more.

thats what i was getting at, just assumed you knew
Yeah it is worth a try, as the overclocks are back in a few seconds of tweaking

 

[Error 404]

I don't know why that is, really. But I doubt it has anything to do with power. Maybe it has something to do with clock syncing with memory? But I didn't think that has any effect any more.

That was just an example. Same thing happens with my CPU; I could have a perfectly stable overclock with X amounts of voltage, but if I add a little more voltage my score improves remarkably. If your OC is right on the borderline of stable, then just adding a little more voltage can help it perform a lot better.

 

[phanbuey]

Hi Mrsemi,

well it's kinda complicated...haha i started a thread to see if i could troubleshoot that one too ;P

TRI-Channel difficulty

and an ssd hmm...would i see an fps increase in general?

you would see 0 FPS more. Why? because SSD has no impact on FPS, neither does raid.

Your system would feel faster loading up apps and such, howver


try to disable core parking in win 7... that can cause stutter on cpu's with HT.
http://ultimatecomputers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3644

 

[CrackerJack]

mp3boy

You wouldn't see ANY increase in FPS with an SSD. You want an increase in FPS? Get another gtx570 or overclock your current one.

+1

Upgrading the hard drive will only increase loading times... by a few seconds

 

[mp3boy]

if you're bought those drives in the lat 2 or 3 years than you will not be able to raid them

WD made it so that only their RE drives can do raid. good "wd raid" or wdtler for more info

wait wait I can't raid caviar blacks??? :O I bought mine a couple years ago....

 

[Batou1986]

HDD perf is not the issue IMO sounds to me like a setting or something is ticked somewhere it shouldn't be.

What games are we talking about here that are lagging, what are the setting your running the game at and what kind of framerates are you getting.

 

[timta2]

if you're bought those drives in the lat 2 or 3 years than you will not be able to raid them

WD made it so that only their RE drives can do raid. good "wd raid" or wdtler for more info

The TLER problem doesn't usually affect (Cheap) software raids like the one your motherboard probably uses. It's the commercial/professional units that the lack of TLER causes problems with.

 

[slyfox2151]

The TLER problem doesn't usually affect (Cheap) software raids like the one your motherboard probably uses. It's the commercial/professional units that the lack of TLER causes problems with.

+1 ^^ this,



my Greens and Blue WD drives have been in raid0 without problems using the intel ICH10R raid chipset.

 

[Nailezs]

I bought 2 WD Black less than a month ago and I have them in raid 0 NOW.

The TLER problem doesn't usually affect (Cheap) software raids like the one your motherboard probably uses. It's the commercial/professional units that the lack of TLER causes problems with.

+1 ^^ this,



my Greens and Blue WD drives have been in raid0 without problems using the intel ICH10R raid chipset.

from what i've read on the subject, all of that only applys as long as your raid arrays do not encounter an error. i think that defualt error recovery time is like 14 seconds or so, and for raid you dont want it any more than 7. if you encounter no errors, tler wont have any effect on you. if u do encounter an error, with such a high error recovery time, your raid will crash because the chipset will detect a bad hdd.

 

[horik]

i have a system almost identical to yours and there is no way you have botleneck there,you have to see why is your ram ammount not recognized,when you oc the cpu to 4 ghz,the mem gets a raise up to 1750 mhz,maybe there is your problem