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WIn7 Network File Sharing issues again![Solved - Advanced Solution!]
Okay now that i have a third win7 PC coming right up ... well it already is running up , clean , and just doing the networking part (probably going to continue in morning so i made this thread)
PC1 = my own PC (july 2010)
PC2 = FEB 2010 win7 PC
PC3 = low end office PC
And now , i forogot much of what the heck i did , but i did reinstall my own WIN7 after the first win7.
Ah before it was like like hell with the stupid homegroup so i disabled everything , but stuff is under there and now it's making me a weird problem , the PC2 has still stuff underneath , a lot of homegroup edits , tweaks , whatever , plus it's not as updated as my own PC is because i usually forgot to apply the same settings on another PC , shame on me but .. oh well.
Now , i made some changes to my "Advanced Sharing Settings" and they were a bit weird what i used to have before , weird by that because "homegroup" was selected but i have homegroups totally disabled in services , i also got Password protected file sharing on , not sure why but okay , Public Files sharing was off (other's were ON (file and discovery) , media streaming off)
Simple Sharing Wizard is of course off. The shared folders are only "Public Documents" hardcode = Public\Documents , nothing else.
Now , the weird thing is , both computers (one or more in a network imo) have to have the same settings for a feature to work properly, but here's the catch , it doesn't work properly with same settings , I (PC1) can't access PC2 shared folder (generic no access error) but PC2 can access my (PC1) folder /move copy edit/ , settings same , homegroups disabled , both seen from each other, source folder permissions are the same , sharing permissions the same.
The settings in netowork are:
PC1 & PC2: Discovery and File Sharing ON, Public File sharing Off , 128 bit , Password OFF , User Accounts and Pass words (not homegroup)
The combination it worked just before(for moths): (Warning: Stupid windows behavior ahead)
PC2: D&F ON , Public File Sharing ON , 128 bit , Password OFF , Users&Password (not HG)
PC1: D&F ON , Public File Sharin OFF , 128 bit , Passwords ON , Homegroup (but it is FUCKING disabled)
>>Both PCs Disabled Homegroups in services , disabled simple file sharing wizard in folder options.
Result: Advanced File Sharing works fine , no homegroups , All access Fine , no password requirements (i think it was asking for initially but i set to automatic , don't recall much) , no access problems nothing , same permission settings all(default + sharing "everyone" > full control)
Issues (in connection with another recent thread here): It was weirdly taking long to display users in network (PC1) ,and my own pc failed to detect it self for a longer than usual period, detects instantly whith revised (normalized settings, no homegroup radio button)
EXPLAIN to me how can a COOKY totally nonsense settings work , this is total bullcrap.
PC3 i will tell what's about it later , i need to have 2 PCs okay then i'll add the third one , but it's really mixed you know , it asks for password for one , but the other doesn't need pasword it just doesn't aloow when opening shared folder , it's a clusterfuck and you don't know what the fuck settings work or what the heck is set how , these stupid radio buttons , may i get some more advanced advice and some more "ADVANCED" options than just the stupid windows UI - 5 settings lol.
I remember there was a path somewhere in wins and some reg keys to forcefully leave homegroups , but i forgot it , may need to search archives of bookmarks, anyone so nice finding trying to help find it again , on google there is ?
EDIT:
THIS ABOVE POST IS OUTDATED / OBSOLETE , IT'S A CLUSTERMIX OF WEIRD SETTINGS AND SOME STUPID COMPUTER MAGIC. IT IS TRUE BUT DON'T TAKE THOSE SETTINGS - IT WONT WORK
Admin please rename this thread to solved.
Or better , "Advanced Win7 Network File Share Guide" -
Already made another one for consideration.
Okay now that i have a third win7 PC coming right up ... well it already is running up , clean , and just doing the networking part (probably going to continue in morning so i made this thread)
PC1 = my own PC (july 2010)
PC2 = FEB 2010 win7 PC
PC3 = low end office PC
And now , i forogot much of what the heck i did , but i did reinstall my own WIN7 after the first win7.
Ah before it was like like hell with the stupid homegroup so i disabled everything , but stuff is under there and now it's making me a weird problem , the PC2 has still stuff underneath , a lot of homegroup edits , tweaks , whatever , plus it's not as updated as my own PC is because i usually forgot to apply the same settings on another PC , shame on me but .. oh well.
Now , i made some changes to my "Advanced Sharing Settings" and they were a bit weird what i used to have before , weird by that because "homegroup" was selected but i have homegroups totally disabled in services , i also got Password protected file sharing on , not sure why but okay , Public Files sharing was off (other's were ON (file and discovery) , media streaming off)
Simple Sharing Wizard is of course off. The shared folders are only "Public Documents" hardcode = Public\Documents , nothing else.
Now , the weird thing is , both computers (one or more in a network imo) have to have the same settings for a feature to work properly, but here's the catch , it doesn't work properly with same settings , I (PC1) can't access PC2 shared folder (generic no access error) but PC2 can access my (PC1) folder /move copy edit/ , settings same , homegroups disabled , both seen from each other, source folder permissions are the same , sharing permissions the same.
The settings in netowork are:
PC1 & PC2: Discovery and File Sharing ON, Public File sharing Off , 128 bit , Password OFF , User Accounts and Pass words (not homegroup)
The combination it worked just before(for moths): (Warning: Stupid windows behavior ahead)
PC2: D&F ON , Public File Sharing ON , 128 bit , Password OFF , Users&Password (not HG)
PC1: D&F ON , Public File Sharin OFF , 128 bit , Passwords ON , Homegroup (but it is FUCKING disabled)
>>Both PCs Disabled Homegroups in services , disabled simple file sharing wizard in folder options.
Result: Advanced File Sharing works fine , no homegroups , All access Fine , no password requirements (i think it was asking for initially but i set to automatic , don't recall much) , no access problems nothing , same permission settings all(default + sharing "everyone" > full control)
Issues (in connection with another recent thread here): It was weirdly taking long to display users in network (PC1) ,and my own pc failed to detect it self for a longer than usual period, detects instantly whith revised (normalized settings, no homegroup radio button)
EXPLAIN to me how can a COOKY totally nonsense settings work , this is total bullcrap.
PC3 i will tell what's about it later , i need to have 2 PCs okay then i'll add the third one , but it's really mixed you know , it asks for password for one , but the other doesn't need pasword it just doesn't aloow when opening shared folder , it's a clusterfuck and you don't know what the fuck settings work or what the heck is set how , these stupid radio buttons , may i get some more advanced advice and some more "ADVANCED" options than just the stupid windows UI - 5 settings lol.
I remember there was a path somewhere in wins and some reg keys to forcefully leave homegroups , but i forgot it , may need to search archives of bookmarks, anyone so nice finding trying to help find it again , on google there is ?
EDIT:
THIS ABOVE POST IS OUTDATED / OBSOLETE , IT'S A CLUSTERMIX OF WEIRD SETTINGS AND SOME STUPID COMPUTER MAGIC. IT IS TRUE BUT DON'T TAKE THOSE SETTINGS - IT WONT WORK
Admin please rename this thread to solved.
Already made another one for consideration.
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