AMD HDMI Sound Card (video card)

slyfox2151 · May 24, 2011

hello,

im wondering if there is much difference between the 4xxx vs 5xxx vs 6xxx in terms of sound output.

are there any unique features ect....

tried Google'ing, however i cant find any specific information.

Peter1986C · May 24, 2011

AFAIK, there is no difference in how the output via HDMI works.

slyfox2151 · May 24, 2011

or any difference vs Nvidia?

freaksavior · May 31, 2011

4xxx does pcm and 5x/6x do bitstreaming.

imperialreign · Jun 1, 2011

freaksavior said:
4xxx does pcm and 5x/6x do bitstreaming.

I thought the audio device on the cards has been the same since the 3000 series?

TBH, I really don't know . . . never cared much to dig into the audio on the ATI cards

CJCerny · Jun 1, 2011

freaksavior said:
4xxx does pcm and 5x/6x do bitstreaming.

This is the correct answer. If you don't know the difference between PCM and bitstreaming, now would be a good time to ask.

cheesy999 · Jun 1, 2011

The 5/6 will also output in the hd formats like dts master hd

AsRock · Jun 1, 2011

freaksavior said:
4xxx does pcm and 5x/6x do bitstreaming.

Yes using multichannel, i know the 6970 i have can get 7.1 and can do DTS an DD with sample rates upto 192KHz

slyfox2151 · Jun 1, 2011

i was hoping it could be use'd to convert DTS HD / MA to PCM.

my 7.2 receiver only supports DTS / DD 5.1 or uncompressed 8 channel PCM.

my biggest issue is the fact i need to change my audio output from 7.1 / 5.1 to Stereo to get upmixing to work on the receiver.
Music i need to have it set to Stereo with no Up Mixing.
Movies with 2.0 output needs to be set to Stereo with PL2 X upmix
Blu ray / DvD with 5.1 needs to be set to 5.1 with PL2 X up Mix
Blu ray with 7.1 needs to be set to 7.1 with no upmix

Peter1986C · Jun 1, 2011

CJCerny said:
This is the correct answer. If you don't know the difference between PCM and bitstreaming, now would be a good time to ask.

Higher sample rates and/or more available sound channels? I did a quick search but only found stuff related to Bitstream Inc. (the font maker company).

slyfox2151 · Jun 1, 2011

Bitstream is Compressed. it could be lossy or lossless, DD/DTS vs DD True-HD / DTS-MA.
PCM is the Raw uncompressed audio.

a receiver will at some point convert Bitstream to PCM and then output it to the amp/speakers.

EDIT:
convert is not really the right word here.... it will uncompress the Bitstream so it can get to the raw audio data.

Peter1986C · Jun 1, 2011

So they relate to each other like FLAC (HQ lossless compressed audio) to Wave (uncompressed audio)?

slyfox2151 · Jun 1, 2011

yeah.

freaksavior · Jun 1, 2011

cheesy999 said:
The 5/6 will also output in the hd formats like dts master hd

Hence bitstreaming

slyfox2151 said:
i was hoping it could be use'd to convert DTS HD / MA to PCM.

my 7.2 receiver only supports DTS / DD 5.1 or uncompressed 8 channel PCM.

my biggest issue is the fact i need to change my audio output from 7.1 / 5.1 to Stereo to get upmixing to work on the receiver.
Music i need to have it set to Stereo with no Up Mixing.
Movies with 2.0 output needs to be set to Stereo with PL2 X upmix
Blu ray / DvD with 5.1 needs to be set to 5.1 with PL2 X up Mix
Blu ray with 7.1 needs to be set to 7.1 with no upmix

This would be manual each and every time but you can use Arcsoft total media theater to play it out in PCM instead of have it compressed and then decoded.

AsRock said:
Yes using multichannel, i know the 6970 i have can get 7.1 and can do DTS an DD with sample rates upto 192KHz

Not sure how this is realavent?

slyfox2151 said:
Bitstream is Compressed. it could be lossy or lossless, DD/DTS vs DD True-HD / DTS-MA.
PCM is the Raw uncompressed audio.

a receiver will at some point convert Bitstream to PCM and then output it to the amp/speakers.

EDIT:
convert is not really the right word here.... it will uncompress the Bitstream so it can get to the raw audio data.

There is no difference besides the fact
A) the computer does the processing
B) the Amp does the processing and shows DTS-HD MA on the receiver (which looks awesome)

Silencer1980 · Jun 21, 2011

yes previously said in thread

only 4xxx,5xxx,6xxx with HDMI connection can passthru DTS-HDAudio...

freaksavior · Jun 22, 2011

Silencer1980 said:
yes previously said in thread

only 4xxx,5xxx,6xxx with HDMI connection can passthru DTS-HDAudio...

No, the 4xxx does PCM meaning the computer processes the audio.
5xxx and 6xxx can do pcm, or bitstreaming, so either the pc does the processing, or the video card will send the AMP/Receiver the audio and let it decode it.

System Name	MRCOMP!
Processor	5800X3D
Motherboard	MSI Gaming Plus
Cooling	Corsair 280 AIO
Memory	64GB 3600mhz
Video Card(s)	GTX3060
Storage	1TB SSD
Display(s)	Samsung Neo
Case	No Case... just sitting on cardboard :D
Power Supply	Antec 650w

System Name	desktop \| Odroid N2+ \|
Processor	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 \| Amlogic S922X \|
Motherboard	Gigabyte B550M DS3H \|Odroid N2+ \|
Cooling	Inter-Tech Argus SU-200, 3x Arctic P12 case fans \| stock heatsink + fan \|
Memory	Gskill Aegis DDR4 32GB \| 4 GB DDR4 \|
Video Card(s)	Sapphire Pulse RX 6600 (8GB) \| Arm Mali G52 \|
Storage	SK Hynix SSD 240GB, Samsung 840 EVO 250 GB, Toshiba DT01ACA100 1T \| Samsung 850 Evo 500GB \|
Display(s)	AOC G2260VWQ6 \| LG 24MT57D \|
Case	Asus Prime 201 \| Stock case (black version) \|
Audio Device(s)	integrated
Power Supply	BeQuiet! Pure Power 11 400W \| 12v barrel jack \|
Mouse	Logitech G500 \|Steelseries Rival 300
Keyboard	Qpad MK-50 (Cherry MX brown)\| Blaze Keyboard
Software	Windows 10, Various Linux distros \| Gentoo Linux

System Name	MRCOMP!
Processor	5800X3D
Motherboard	MSI Gaming Plus
Cooling	Corsair 280 AIO
Memory	64GB 3600mhz
Video Card(s)	GTX3060
Storage	1TB SSD
Display(s)	Samsung Neo
Case	No Case... just sitting on cardboard :D
Power Supply	Antec 650w

System Name	ZeroUptime \| M.A.S.S / MM1
Processor	Xeon 2659 v3 / Xeon 2683 v4 / ARM A14
Motherboard	Asus X99-E-10G WS / ASRock x99 usb 3.1 / Apple
Cooling	NZXT Kraken / Noctua NH-L12 / Apple
Memory	16Gb DDR4 / 32Gb DDR4 / 16GB HBLM
Video Card(s)	Powercooler ATI vega 64 / GT 7300 / ARM
Storage	Samsung 970 512 Evo NVMe / A lot. / 256 + 512 External TB3
Display(s)	Acer Predator X34 / Headless / Acer X34 Non predator
Case	NZXT H630 \|Rosewill 8bay 4u server chasiss / MMM1
Audio Device(s)	Onboard / Onboard / Onboard
Power Supply	Corais HX850 \| Corsair TX750 / Internal 250w
Mouse	g502 proteus core / Headless / g502 proteus core
Keyboard	Corsair K95 Cherry Blue / Headless / K65 Cherry Red
Software	Windows 10 / ESXI / Big Sur 11.2.2

System Name	УльтраФиолет
Processor	Intel Kentsfield Q9650 @ 3.8GHz (4.2GHz highest achieved)
Motherboard	ASUS P5E3 Deluxe/WiFi; X38 NSB, ICH9R SSB
Cooling	Delta V3 block, XPSC res, 120x3 rad, ST 1/2" pump - 10 fans, SYSTRIN HDD cooler, Antec HDD cooler
Memory	Dual channel 8GB OCZ Platinum DDR3 @ 1800MHz @ 7-7-7-20 1T
Video Card(s)	Quadfire: (2) Sapphire HD5970
Storage	(2) WD VelociRaptor 300GB SATA-300; WD 320GB SATA-300; WD 200GB UATA + WD 160GB UATA
Display(s)	Samsung Syncmaster T240 24" (16:10)
Case	Cooler Master Stacker 830
Audio Device(s)	Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro PCI-E x1
Power Supply	Kingwin Mach1 1200W modular
Software	Windows XP Home SP3; Vista Ultimate x64 SP2
Benchmark Scores	3m06: 20270 here: http://hwbot.org/user.do?userId=12313

AMD HDMI Sound Card (video card)

slyfox2151

Peter1986C

slyfox2151

freaksavior

To infinity ... and beyond!

imperialreign

New Member

CJCerny

cheesy999

AsRock

TPU addict

slyfox2151

Peter1986C

slyfox2151

Peter1986C

slyfox2151

freaksavior

To infinity ... and beyond!

Silencer1980

New Member

freaksavior

To infinity ... and beyond!

System Name	Main Rig
Processor	Athlon 5350
Motherboard	AsRock mITX
Memory	4gb
Storage	120gb Kingston HyperX SSD
Display(s)	Samsung Syncmaster 740N
Power Supply	Corsair 430 watt

System Name	PC
Processor	AMD Ryzen 3600
Motherboard	MSI B450 Mortar Max
Cooling	Phanteks PH-TC12DX, 3 x NZXT FN 140mm, 1x NZXT FV V2 120mm
Memory	32gb DDR4 3200mhz
Video Card(s)	ASUS R9 290 DCII-OC 4GB
Storage	corsair mp600 1TB
Display(s)	LG 27MB85Z 27" 1440p
Case	NZXT Source 340
Power Supply	Thermaltake 675w
Mouse	Logitech G500S
Keyboard	Logitech G510S
Software	Windows 8.1 64 bit

Processor	AMD 3900X \ AMD 7700X
Motherboard	ASRock AM4 X570 Pro 4 \ ASUS X670Xe TUF
Cooling	D15
Memory	Patriot 2x16GB PVS432G320C6K \ G.Skill Flare X5 F5-6000J3238F 2x16GB
Video Card(s)	eVga GTX1060 SSC \ XFX RX 6950XT RX-695XATBD9
Storage	Sammy 860, MX500, Sabrent Rocket 4 Sammy Evo 980 \ 1xSabrent Rocket 4+, Sammy 2x990 Pro
Display(s)	Samsung 1080P \ LG 43UN700
Case	Fractal Design Pop Air 2x140mm fans from Torrent \ Fractal Design Torrent 2 SilverStone FHP141x2
Audio Device(s)	Yamaha RX-V677 \ Yamaha CX-830+Yamaha MX-630 Infinity RS4000\Paradigm P Studio 20, Blue Yeti
Power Supply	Seasonic Prime TX-750 \ Corsair RM1000X Shift
Mouse	Steelseries Sensei wireless \ Steelseries Sensei wireless
Keyboard	Logitech K120 \ Wooting Two HE
Benchmark Scores	Meh benchmarks.