The AMD Phenom II OC'ers Club

[YautjaLord]

i dont have air con.

its 7pm here and still
33C
Haze
Wind: SW at 10 km/h
Humidity: 66%

That's just like in Israel, slightly less:

5:40pm currently;
31C
No haze;
Wind: NW 19kmph;
Humidity: 55%.

Less but still f***ed up. In August i think it'll easily hit ~40C & 70 or 80% humidity; in 2012 January thru November it will be hottest & in 12.12.2012 we'll see if R. Emmerich was right or just BS'ing. Maya is though. Both of us need to wait til temps will get lower in Autumn/possibly end of September that's given; me - i have to order & get Indigo Extreme as well. I'll make a deal with you: i'll buy 2 or 3 packs of this ETI & when i'll test it on my current CPU (end of August or beginning of September) i'll tell you how it performed, deal? Also i'll need to buy AX1200W for this job, OT i know but i hope it'll be sufficient for squeezing out a lil' bit more out of CPU just as much.

 

[de.das.dude]

it hits 45C in my room every summer LOL.

 

[YautjaLord]

That's f***ed up.

Regardless, i repeat: end of August, hope we made a deal. And besides i wanna see for myself in a 1st place how my current CPU works with AX1200W/Indigo Extreme combo: bet this ETI ace compared to AS5 or all TIMs for that matter. Costs abit too much though, so 3 packages of this ETI will suffice for now. So: deal?

 

[de.das.dude]

i is confused. whats the deal


ans as for low temps. it hits 11-12C easily in my room during winter LOL

 

[fullinfusion]

^ read post #12851

 

[YautjaLord]

The deal was that once i'll have Indigo Extreme in my hands & tested on my current CPU (965BE) i'll tell you how it performed & you'll decide whether it'll convince you to upgrade to this or not. Plus i said that i'll also buy AX1200W PSU along with Indigo Extreme & again you'll decide whether it's worthy or not to upgrade in addition to Indigo Extreme. Now: deal?

Both of us need money & quite desperetally, mine will also go for upgrade+purchase of few web designing apps (& for other things in life ), so i thought what the hell, i'll help you decide to improve upon your current OC misadventure, even though you'll have to shed some cash; but you will not be alone - i'll definitelly buy those, that's given.

 

[de.das.dude]

ofcourse i will buy. i dont have to decide. i know i need a bettwe psu. plan on the corsair GS600 or GS800.

As for TIM i am satisfied with my coolermaster cheap one
but i am really broke. im a student you see. im only 19, and got like 20$ in the bank

 

[fullinfusion]

I used Indigo Extreme and it was junk... I wouldn't waste your money on it.
If it were like 5 dollars for the 3 pack id say yes but I've found a product that does just as good a job for cheaper... Just lap the cpu and heat sink and be done with it.

 

[de.das.dude]

I used Indigo Extreme and it was junk... I wouldn't waste your money on it.
If it were like 5 dollars for the 3 pack id say yes but I've found a product that does just as good a job for cheaper... Just lap the cpu and heat sink and be done with it.

already done it. i lapped the heatsink, with 320grit, but i used a tool at 35000 rpm so it is silky smooth.


And yeah i read that its hard to achieve flow on amd CPUs.

you need to take the CPU to 90C to cure it! :O



btw was running CPU burnin. max was 52C. ran for a long time ~30mins. but when i was closing the 4 instances, i got BSOD LOLOL

 

[fullinfusion]

already done it. i lapped the heatsink, with 320grit, but i used a tool at 35000 rpm so it is silky smooth.


And yeah i read that its hard to achieve flow on amd CPUs.

you need to take the CPU to 90C to cure it! :O



btw was running CPU burnin. max was 52C. ran for a long time ~30mins. but when i was closing the 4 instances, i got BSOD LOLOL

320 grit? I think you mean 3200 grit
90c is no problem, just unhook the power to the cooling fan, boot up and wait till it shuts down. After that let it sit for 10min befor touching a thing... after that its cured.

EDIT for using a tool!!! It wont be flat! you need to use glass and a steady hand to lap my friend.

I had a water pump fail and the cpu hit 110c b4 it shut down and that was using the x4 955
She never had a problem after that temp

 

[MightyMission]

110

i got scared when my pump failed and the computer shut itself down after a second or two at around 65c!

 

[fullinfusion]

Yeah was 108c or 110c im not sure. It was boiling the coolant in the loop and when I looked at the temp program thats what it said. It was hot! you could smell it and I casually leaned over and flipped off the power, I'm sure if I bumped the case the cpu would likely been shot from solder joints breaking lol
Replaced the pump and never gave a single problem... It even clocked as good as before the melt down

Sorry it was my x4 940 not the 955

 

[YautjaLord]

ofcourse i will buy. i dont have to decide. i know i need a bettwe psu. plan on the corsair GS600 or GS800.

As for TIM i am satisfied with my coolermaster cheap one
but i am really broke. im a student you see. im only 19, and got like 20$ in the bank

Sorry then, just good luck in purchasing PSU; actually for both of us. AX1200W will suffice for components i'll purchase (mobo, RAM, HDD or SSD, etc....). GS800 Gaming series? Good choice & good luck, dude.

2fullinfusion:

Only way to find out is to find out yourself: i'll see how it fairs out for me (Indigo Extreme) & tell whether you were right or wrong in what you said bout it; have to find it out for myself, don't i? Thanx regardless.

 

[fullinfusion]

Sorry then, just good luck in purchasing PSU; actually for both of us. AX1200W will suffice for components i'll purchase (mobo, RAM, HDD or SSD, etc....). GS800 Gaming series? Good choice & good luck, dude.

2fullinfusion:

Only way to find out is to find out yourself: i'll see how it fairs out for me (Indigo Extreme) & tell whether you were right or wrong in what you said bout it; have to find it out for myself, don't i? Thanx regardless.

No worries, im just passing on my testing and the IGE looks cool and thats abought it.
Just make sure you get it on perfect the 1st time around or it's not going to work for ya.

 

[YautjaLord]

That one is given: if you slightly move from intended side it can reflow entire mobo with bubbles & s***. jk

Last thing i need is reflowed mobo instead of CPU; stay tuned - gotta see for myself how this ETI performs with extreme Phenom II OC'ing, especially in hot & humid Israeli summer. Hope it'll be awesome, compared to my current TIM (AS5) as they suggest in reviews round web & in SideWinder Computers.

 

[jeepdriver]

Some interesting reading on TIMs

http://skinneelabs.com/2011-tim-results/

 

[de.das.dude]

320 grit? I think you mean 3200 grit
90c is no problem, just unhook the power to the cooling fan, boot up and wait till it shuts down. After that let it sit for 10min befor touching a thing... after that its cured.

EDIT for using a tool!!! It wont be flat! you need to use glass and a steady hand to lap my friend.

I had a water pump fail and the cpu hit 110c b4 it shut down and that was using the x4 955
She never had a problem after that temp

actually no. good luck in finding anything higher than 320 grit here in india.

and you will wont be able to tell its a 320 grit. i compared it to this guy on TPU who manually lapped. mine was better. i also tried the water drop test, where i let a water drop slide down the base. no water trail = me happy.

 

[soratheultima]

hello guys i want to overclock my phenom II x4 940 *stock 3 ghz* but for some reason it won't go past 3.3 ghz and crashes i got to 3.5 once but it was unstable and crashed every program and 3.6 as reported by others as working with aircoolers worked to with them but for me it gives me an instant crash *BSOD* as soon as i do it...:/ the attachment shows a pic of everything about my computer i want to get it to 3.6 *btw i have stock cooling fan and a ATI 6950 HD unlocked*

 

[texaschainsaw01]

hello guys i want to overclock my phenom II x4 940 *stock 3 ghz* but for some reason it won't go past 3.3 ghz and crashes i got to 3.5 once but it was unstable and crashed every program and 3.6 as reported by others as working with aircoolers worked to with them but for me it gives me an instant crash *BSOD* as soon as i do it...:/ the attachment shows a pic of everything about my computer i want to get it to 3.6 *btw i have stock cooling fan and a ATI 6950 HD unlocked*

ok for starters software is unreliable for ocing it is much easier and reliable to use the bios first off you have to know what you are aiming for in your oc secondly for a good stable cool overclock easiest way for a begginer is to up the multiplier in the bios what mb are you using and what are your ambient temps and your temps at stock if you can get a aftermarket cooler it would help pm me and i can walk you through

 

[Athlonite]

hello guys i want to overclock my phenom II x4 940 *stock 3 ghz* but for some reason it won't go past 3.3 ghz and crashes i got to 3.5 once but it was unstable and crashed every program and 3.6 as reported by others as working with aircoolers worked to with them but for me it gives me an instant crash *BSOD* as soon as i do it...:/ the attachment shows a pic of everything about my computer i want to get it to 3.6 *btw i have stock cooling fan and a ATI 6950 HD unlocked*

same procy as mine and I'm running 3.4GHz @ 1.365V with CPUNB/IMC at 1.4V because of havin 4 dimms installed anything less causes bsod's and instability also most others here are using after market coolers not stock ones I myself am using an Thermolab Baram

 

[Velvet Wafer]

hello guys i want to overclock my phenom II x4 940 *stock 3 ghz* but for some reason it won't go past 3.3 ghz and crashes i got to 3.5 once but it was unstable and crashed every program and 3.6 as reported by others as working with aircoolers worked to with them but for me it gives me an instant crash *BSOD* as soon as i do it...:/ the attachment shows a pic of everything about my computer i want to get it to 3.6 *btw i have stock cooling fan and a ATI 6950 HD unlocked*

you maybe want to look at you ram frequency and CPU/NB at first.... thats the main bottlenecks in your system, as 1800NB with 533 cl4 ram is TERRIBLY slow... no matter if 3 ghz or 3.6 ghz.

can you somehow get the ram at least up to 667? you didnt included your specs memwise, so idk if its even capable of that!

 

[erocker]

Some interesting reading on TIMs

http://skinneelabs.com/2011-tim-results/

I can't believe a TIM would make so much of a difference. Though, it uses some sort of phase change tech.. I need to pick some up.

 

[soratheultima]

you mean the Dram frequency which is at 266.7 mhz? i have different types of ram * knows its stupid to add different types in but for me it has worked pretty fast so far but if you could help me that would be nice*
heres my ram *info from cpu z
DIMM # 1
SMBus address 0x50
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CM2X2048-6400C5
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 4.0-4-4-13-15 @ 270 MHz
JEDEC #2 5.0-5-5-18-22 @ 400 MHz

DIMM # 2
SMBus address 0x51
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Corsair (7F7F9E0000000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number CM2X2048-6400C5
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 4.0-4-4-13-15 @ 270 MHz
JEDEC #2 5.0-5-5-18-22 @ 400 MHz

DIMM # 3
SMBus address 0x52
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) Micron Technology (2C00000000000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-6400 (400 MHz)
Part number ITC
Manufacturing date Week 18/Year 09
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 4.0-4-4-12-16 @ 266 MHz
JEDEC #2 5.0-5-5-15-20 @ 333 MHz
JEDEC #3 6.0-6-6-18-24 @ 400 MHz

DIMM # 4
SMBus address 0x53
Memory type DDR2
Module format Regular UDIMM
Manufacturer (ID) G.Skill (7F7F7F7FCD000000)
Size 2048 MBytes
Max bandwidth PC2-5300 (333 MHz)
Part number F2-5300CL4-2GBPQ
Number of banks 2
Data width 64 bits
Correction None
Nominal Voltage 1.80 Volts
EPP no
XMP no
JEDEC timings table CL-tRCD-tRP-tRAS-tRC @ frequency
JEDEC #1 4.0-4-4-12-20 @ 333 MHz

 

[erocker]

Get rid of the sticks in slot 3 and 4. Run your remaining RAM at 400mhz 5 5-5-15. Having that extra ram in there doesn't help at all.

 

[YautjaLord]

2erocker:

Phase Change Metal Alloy (PCMA), precision Engineered Thermal Interface; Gary (the guy @ SWC) recommended me this. Check some vids @ YouTube comparing this to AS5, or better yet purchase one (warning: this Indigo Extreme is one pricey m**********r - ~19USD package) & test it for yourself. Or ask bta or W1z to review it. I will see how it plays for me once got hold of it.