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[FreedomEclipse]

I was really into the Corsair Obsidian cases, then I checked out the Fractal Design Define R3. the Corsair 650D looks good. but the R3 comes out a little cheaper.

 

[InnocentCriminal]

The mere fact that you have described it as "midi" suggests it cannot compete with the HAF in the airflow or "space" departments that the freedom one requires

A lot of cases can't compete due to its sheer size but the Arc Midi or R3 cases are 'better'... aesthetically & can still compete on a cooling basis.



I hate the [look of] HAF cases so much, so much.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

If i did pick up the R3 - Id use the extra cash saved to pick up some GT-AP15 fans and swap out all the fans it comes with.

the thing i find appealing about the R3 is it has a fan on the side panel. The 650D doesnt. but reviews say both cases have great airflow. but i sill want to keep my 6970s chilled

 

[Tatty_Two]

A lot of cases can't compete due to its sheer size but the Arc Midi or R3 cases are 'better'... aesthetically & can still compete on a cooling basis.



I hate the [look of] HAF cases so much, so much.

I would have to agree aesthetically although I am doubtful on the cooling, I don't say that out of any brand loyality..... simply because the HAF is unbeleivably good with three 250's, four 120's and a free flowing mesh grill (has it's downsides) it really does move some air in a vast space (let alone it's setup for watercoolong), I will have to take a closer look though at the Arc and R3's as I don't know them that well.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I will have to take a closer look though at the Arc and R3's as I don't know them that well.

TPU has a review for the R3

 

[Tatty_Two]

Was not overly impressed with the layout and size of the R3, I like heaps of space and it seems a little limited, i also really do like the seperation of PSU from main chamber, the Arc looks a little more "me" but to be honest, it does not inspire me enough to change, no doubt they are good units though.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

what do you think of the Corsair Obsidian 650D then Tatty?

 

[FreedomEclipse]

the 650D has loads of space

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I might do what this guy did with his case - our builds are almost identical

 

[InnocentCriminal]

650D looks to be an excellent case choice.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

gonna grab the 650D then. hopefully i'll be able to have it by the end of next week.

 

[Tatty_Two]

Still prefer the HAF

 

[MilkyWay]

Still prefer the HAF

I think the HAF looks gash. The only case from Coolermaster i really like is the CM690II, Storm/Sniper and the HAFs to me look terrible.

If you havnt sprung yet get the Fractal Design XL Freedom, that will most certainly solve your space problem.


EDIT: From what i can tell the 650D and 600T share the same layout.

 

[Tatty_Two]

I think the HAF looks gash. I only case from Coolermaster i really like is the CM690II, Storm Sniper and the HAFs to me look terrible.

If you havnt sprung yet get the Fractal Design XL Freedom, that will most certainly solve your space problem.


EDIT: From what i can tell the 650D and 600T share the same layout.

In the flesh they actually look pretty decent, they have some nice graphical designs on the sides and have some nice clean lines, whilst they are def not the prettiest of cases in comparision with some, they have one of the most practical and effective designs of anything available IMO.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I think the HAF looks gash. The only case from Coolermaster i really like is the CM690II, Storm/Sniper and the HAFs to me look terrible.

If you havnt sprung yet get the Fractal Design XL Freedom, that will most certainly solve your space problem.


EDIT: From what i can tell the 650D and 600T share the same layout.

Ive looked at the XL and I dont like it so much. theres a lot of wasted space inside the case - I dont need 10 bays for hard drives. and the airflow looks to be pretty mediocre compared to the R3 or 650D

--- Not trying to nit pick but these are my personal observations when i look at the case.

the 650D looks like a pretty good contender for now. but i might just flip a coin when it comes to crunch time and i need to make a definite decision on which one im gonna pick.

 

[MilkyWay]

What is the size difference between the old Antec you had and an R3? You did want a bigger case no? Its almost the same design as an R3 but bigger. You can take out the hard drive rack bellow the 5"1/4 bays for more airflow. TBH i dont see a problem with the XL the R3 has 8 hard drive bays which is only 2 off the XL and if your removing a cage on the R3 i see it as a non issue for the XL as you can remove one on that too. The Airflow to me looks better on the XL just by looking at the fans, size and the side panel fan placement.

Every time i recommend something i get shot down. Know what buy a 650D as if i really care its your money.

 

[cheesy999]

i went to the apple store today and now i want one of these

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MC914B/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MjMzOTYzMjc

the problem is i will never be able to afford that, ever, that's like 8x the price a screen should be

 

[Fourstaff]

i went to the apple store today and now i want one of these

http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MC914B/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MjMzOTYzMjc

the problem is i will never be able to afford that, ever, that's like 8x the price a screen should be

And you are going to connect it to ... ?

 

[cheesy999]

And you are going to connect it to ... ?

i'll have to buy a mac, or i could just buy the displayport version -->http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MC007B/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ&mco=MTkwMzc1NDA

problem is after spending 2 hours in the apple store i really want it but i would have to save up for about 2 years to afford it

 

[FreedomEclipse]

What is the size difference between the old Antec you had and an R3? You did want a bigger case no? Its almost the same design as an R3 but bigger. You can take out the hard drive rack bellow the 5"1/4 bays for more airflow. TBH i dont see a problem with the XL the R3 has 8 hard drive bays which is only 2 off the XL and if your removing a cage on the R3 i see it as a non issue for the XL as you can remove one on that too. The Airflow to me looks better on the XL just by looking at the fans, size and the side panel fan placement.

Every time i recommend something i get shot down. Know what buy a 650D as if i really care its your money.

 

[kurosagi01]

Off topic from cases for you all,took my car for a diagnostic on Thursday,which reported i need a new CAT converter and exhaust system.
The garage was charging me £355 altogether including VAT+labour,went around searching. Mainly on 206info(206 owners club UK) and they told me i could get stainless exhaust system fitted for same or less.
So i went down to Longlife/ECU Evolution for quote on getting CAT and stainless exhaust system fitted.
They were only charging £40 more,which i think was excellent and stainless is more durable and it has lifetime warranty. Quite excited now,going ask them to probably change the tailpipe if its same peashooter im getting and like make the exhaust sound a bit louder only on high revs but quiet normal driving.
And i only have to wait until Tuesday coming,while the 1st garage gave me waiting time of 2 weeks.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Ugh. take your gypsy banger and oversize exhaust and gtfo. got enough of those twats around here and we dont need anymore of them.

fucking idiot a few roads down has some old 1.2 -1.3L ford fiesta and hes fitted one of these massive exhaustpipes on so everyone in the block can hear him when hes burnin it down the road in first gear.

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As for the case dilemma.... Im leaning towards the Define XL

 

[MilkyWay]

I just read that even though the 600T and 650D have the same internal layout the top section of the 650D is slightly bigger allowing for a 240mm Rad 50/60mm with fans which is nice.

From that picture id say the XL is more like a Corsair 800D with its bottom PSU section all sectioned off. I think its shit that the top fan is 180mm because that could be hard to replace. I know the top rack is re moveable meaning you could get direct airflow into the middle. Depends both cases have pros and cons, if your crossfiring its good to have that extra space i think if your water cooling with a custom loop i dont know how the Fractals are but the 650D is nice for that.

@Kuro Like i said on steam your car will be a real chav mobile now with that funky exhaust especially being a Peugeot lol. Post up some pics mate!

 

[kurosagi01]

Lol mine won't be like that guys,its not like the exhaust will be hanging off the car,nor will it be like 5" or something,3" is small on a tailpipe and i am only configuring it to sound better at higher revs and not during normal drive. Normal drive be the same.
I hate those cars with extremely loud that you can just hear it from start of building up from 1000 onwards.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I just read that even though the 600T and 650D have the same internal layout the top section of the 650D is slightly bigger allowing for a 240mm Rad 50/60mm with fans which is nice.

From that picture id say the XL is more like a Corsair 800D with its bottom PSU section all sectioned off. I think its shit that the top fan is 180mm because that could be hard to replace. I know the top rack is re moveable meaning you could get direct airflow into the middle. Depends both cases have pros and cons, if your crossfiring its good to have that extra space i think if your water cooling with a custom loop i dont know how the Fractals are but the 650D is nice for that.

well. I had watercooling in mind tbh. Ive been looking at a lot of XPSC watercooling kits recently too and somepoint down the line id like to put one in to cool my 6970s.

Im gonna have my current rig for at least 3 years if i can help it. and i dont want to be hearing how loud these cards get in crossfire all the time

 

[MightyMission]

The tailpipe should be sized in relation to the engines throughput,3" is big for a standard 1.6.
2" is fine,understated and cheaper too.be sure to ask for your old cat back as its by far the most valuable part of the exhaust (precious metals),taking it to a scrappy will get you some money back off your new exhaust..
2.5" was fine for (an unruly )400 +/- bhp at the front wheels of my old motor.

Smaller exhausts can be a positive on smaller engines,due to them needing some backpressure,and of course being quieter so not needing a loud stereo or shares in headache tablets.