i7 2700k or FX-8150? Please help me decide

[BondExtreme]

I need help in deciding which processor would be the best choice for my new system...

First off, the new FX series came out and it looks good but not great as far as reviews go.
If I were to get an 8 core it would be the 8150. It would be nice having 8 cores but it's hard for me to tell if it would even make a difference...

Now in all these reviews I am reading, these sources are explaining how even the FX-8150 can't even compete with the i7 2600k which to me sounds a bit disappointing.

If I were to go with Intel's i7, I would most likely wait until the 2700k is released.

Personally though I really don't know what to go with. I want a CPU that that is very powerful with current gen, high end gaming and strenuous video editing & production.

I run a video game channel on Youtube with a few buddies and when it comes to recording with Fraps at 60FPS with an intense game engine, you NEED a powerful processor.

So if you guys wouldn't mind and just explain to me my options and what differences I would see with each CPU, it would be appreciated.

And again, I am either going with the FX-8150 or i7 2700k (when released)

Thank you for your time,
Bond

 

[_JP_]

I vote for a 2600k + Z68 board.
To start with, the 2600k can OC to 2700k levels. The Z68 assures compatibility with Ivy Bridge. And bulldozer needs a few tweaks to be competitive, so for now, you best bet is SB.

 

[BrooksyX]

I vote for a 2600k + Z68 board.

2700k if you need the you need the hyper threading if not get a 2500k.

 

[Black Haru]

check this post.

 

[erocker]

This is an easy decision. Look at reviews and the answer is right there.

 

[JrRacinFan]

None of it. 2500K + P67, skip the HT hype.

 

[erocker]

With video editing and production one would definitely want HT if it's available. I mildly do those things and wish I had a 2600/2700K over my 2500K. The FX-8150 shouldn't even be in this discussion.

 

[PaulieG]

With video editing and production one would definitely want HT if it's available. I mildly do those things and wish I had a 2600/2700K over my 2500K. The FX-8150 shouldn't even be in this discussion.

THIS. A 2600k or 2700k is really the only decision to make, and if you are willing to do even mild overclocking then the 2600k IS the cpu you want. It will save you some cash over the 2700k, since in theory the 2600k should drop in price when the 2700k is released.

 

[AhokZYashA]

2600k + a Z68 board,
its faster than BD, and easily overclockable to 2700k levels,

 

[BondExtreme]

With video editing and production one would definitely want HT if it's available. I mildly do those things and wish I had a 2600/2700K over my 2500K. The FX-8150 shouldn't even be in this discussion.

Thank you and actually that is something I completely forgot about with the FX-8150 on how it doesn't support HT... which is something I would definitely need.

THIS. A 2600k or 2700k is really the only decision to make, and if you are willing to do even mild overclocking then the 2600k IS the cpu you want. It will save you some cash over the 2700k, since in theory the 2600k should drop in price when the 2700k is released.

Hehe. Well mild overclocking would be a little absurd wouldn't it?
I would get that thing to around 4.5 with proper cooling.
As far as how much I am willing to spend on a CPU, money isn't really an issue.

Also, any opinions on when the 2700k will be released? I'm hearing more towards Nov-Dec.

 

[ShRoOmAlIsTiC]

<---AMD Fan boy. Get the 8150 and show them some love.

 

[dir_d]

As much as it saddens me, bulldozer is not ready yet. You must go 2600k or 2700k if its out by then.

 

[erocker]

Thank you and actually that is something I completely forgot about with the FX-8150 on how it doesn't support HT... which is something I would definitely need.

Well, if BD worked right it would be a good choice with having 8 cores which should be superior to a HT design. Unfortunately it's not.

 

[3volvedcombat]

2700k also.

Anything Intel is pretty good architecture, you can almost consider them the Maserati or Ferrari of the age.

Bulldozer is not necessarily not a 8 core sense die diagrams are exposing its clever architecture.
It is, just not necessarily the full 8 cores.

It look's like someone is gonna have some bad sales now

 

[LAN_deRf_HA]

The last bit of 2700k news I saw indicated it was going in above the 2600k. Nothing will drop price. Why would it given the competition? The 2700k is Intel getting back in on that $400-$600 price point they've enjoyed so much in the past.

 

[johnnyfiive]

Well, if BD worked right it would be a good choice with having 8 cores which should be superior to a HT design. Unfortunately it's not.

That's the problem erocker, the FX 8xxx doesn't have eight physical cores. They have four modules that each have two integer units, which the OS reads as eight cores. The reality is, the FX 8xxx CPUs are gloried eight core processors that actually only have four physical core units.
Rumor has it on xtremesystems that disabling an integer in each module improves single thread performance and IPCs in general. I'm hoping some TPUers can replicate that rumor and show some serious proof.

To the OP, I'd recommend a 2600k.

 

[BondExtreme]

Anyone have any opinions on the release of the 2700k?
Hopefully before the end of the calendar year?

 

[qubit]

I need help in deciding which processor would be the best choice for my new system...

First off, the new FX series came out and it looks good but not great as far as reviews go.
If I were to get an 8 core it would be the 8150. It would be nice having 8 cores but it's hard for me to tell if it would even make a difference...

Now in all these reviews I am reading, these sources are explaining how even the FX-8150 can't even compete with the i7 2600k which to me sounds a bit disappointing.

If I were to go with Intel's i7, I would most likely wait until the 2700k is released.

Personally though I really don't know what to go with. I want a CPU that that is very powerful with current gen, high end gaming and strenuous video editing & production.

I run a video game channel on Youtube with a few buddies and when it comes to recording with Fraps at 60FPS with an intense game engine, you NEED a powerful processor.

So if you guys wouldn't mind and just explain to me my options and what differences I would see with each CPU, it would be appreciated.

And again, I am either going with the FX-8150 or i7 2700k (when released)

Thank you for your time,
Bond

Go Intel, it's a no-brainer. Bulldozer is a lemon and I don't know if AMD are gonna be making x86 CPUs in the next couple of years. It's really 4 cores with multi-threading, so I don't know how AMD get away with describing it as an octacore CPU. It uses lots of power and underperforms badly, just look at this terrible Guru3D result - it's only 53% of the processing power of the 980X in Far Cry 2 and the 2600K smokes it too. The difference isn't so wide in other benchmarks, but nowhere does it excel against Intel. This is what we get after a long 4 year wait, too.

 

[JrRacinFan]

http://pcper.com/reviews/Processors...r-Unearth-AMD-Victory/FX-Memory-Frequency-S-0

But yet how come I see totally different results there qubit?

 

[uwemi]

This is very eazy choice
2600K ofc

 

[qubit]

http://pcper.com/reviews/Processors...r-Unearth-AMD-Victory/FX-Memory-Frequency-S-0

But yet how come I see totally different results there qubit?

Different website and different test, perhaps? Also, that SiSoft memory bandwidth test only compares different models of AMD CPU.

 

[Frick]

This is very eazy choice
2600K ofc

Aye, totally this.

I mean in some things BD reached SB levels, but the general top dog is the 2600k.

 

[ViperXTR]

Thank you and actually that is something I completely forgot about with the FX-8150 on how it doesn't support HT... which is something I would definitely need.

FX-8150 is actually in some sort of "HT" like johnnyfiive mentioned. Its not like the Phenom II X6 processors or Core i7 980/990 where it really has 6 physical cores that has its own compute units.

4 modules, 2 integer cores in each module is what the 8150 has.

Rumor has it on xtremesystems that disabling an integer in each module improves single thread performance and IPCs in general. I'm hoping some TPUers can replicate that rumor and show some serious proof.

Probably because the threads won't share the FP unit of the module. Each module has 2 integer units for 2 threads but only 1 Floating point unit that needs to be shared between each thread. When you only allow one thread in each module, the thread wil have full access to both the integer and flaoting point pipeline without sharing, heck it will also gobble all that 2MB L2 cache for itself.

And as for proof, i think someone already showed it in the BD thread

 

[BondExtreme]

So no opinions on when the 2700k is to be released?

 

[Corporate_Nothing]

Here's some info.
http://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/32072-intel-readying-core-i7-2700k-rain-amds-fx-parade/

I don't mean to hijack this discussion, but I was thinking about building an i7-2600k/Z68 rig later this year, some time before Black Friday/Cyber Monday and Christmas. This is what I put together -
Once You Know, You Newegg
I'll be upgrading from the system I have listed in my Specs profile here. It's costly to say the least, but I could save a lot of money by dropping the sound card (for now), buying a Cooler Master Full Tower ATX case instead, and keeping my current 23.6" Asus LCD monitor.
Oh, and I'll be reusing my GTX 560 Ti SLI setup from my current rig, too.

But anyway, my suggestion to you would be to wait a few more weeks, see if i7-2700k is significantly better in terms of performance vs. price, if not, just go with the i7-2600k, and upgrade in a year and a half or so once Ivy Bridge is cheap enough.