Can my PC bring GTX560 into full play?

[Ronarch]

I bought this machine 2 years ago

Gigabyte EP43-UD3L
E7600 core2duo 3.06ghz
Kingston DDR2 2GBx2
GTX260 DDR3 896mb

Yes I plan to upgrade the card for bf3 and I expect nothing more than averge FPS with medium or even low graphic quality.
Do you think it will work if I change my card from GTX260 to GTX560?

And what will happen if I don't remove my GTX260 and insert a new GTX560 and they work together? Is it possible? Will it bring better or worse outcome than using GTX560 only?

Thanks so much for helping and suggesting

 

[Darkleoco]

I would upgrade that ram before worrying about a new graphics card, you should be at least running 4GB of DDR3 before considering upgrading your graphics card. Also I would look at a full system upgrade if you really want to get anything out of BF3 since a Core2Duo is not going to produce a very playable game even if it is combined with a GTX560.

 

[Ronarch]

ya... I know DDR2 ram sucks
But this MB actually doesn't support DDR3
So it seems that the only workable way is to get a new PC...
Anyway I will try to run the game first.
After all it meets the minimum requirement.

 

[erocker]

It would be a noticable upgrade with that new GPU. No, you cannot mix those two cards to run together.

 

[Protagonist]

definitely it will be a notable upgrade to GTX 560, the game will work at max settings assuming you are running a monitor with 1920x1200/1920x1080 screen resolution or less. i think it can do well on 2560x1600 too

 

[Ronarch]

I will run only with 1680x1050, my 22" monitor's max setting.
But my MB doesn't even support DDR3 ram
Can GTX560 output its power while being plugged on it?

 

[Darkleoco]

definitely it will be a notable upgrade to GTX 560, the game will work at max settings assuming you are running a monitor with 1920x1200/1920x1080 screen resolution or less. i think it can do well on 2560x1600 too

A single GTX 560 will NOT run BF3 on max settings at 1920x1200 and certainly not 2560x1600 where it only gets 48 FPS on 1920x1200 and 30.4 FPS on 2560x1600 in BFBC2. Not to mention him running DDR2 RAM would likely make it perform even worse in BFBC2.

 

[N-Gen]

In the case of mixing VGAs in this manner the only benefit would be a dedicated PhysX card, but then again as everyone else mentioned, you're gonna have to upgrade more than just the VGA.

 

[Darkleoco]

I will run only with 1680x1050, my 22" monitor's max setting.
But my MB doesn't even support DDR3 ram
Can GTX560 output its power while being plugged on it?

I'm not sure what you would get on BF3 with that considering your setup but as a reference point that card in 1GB or 2GB version only gets 60 FPS at that resolution on BFBC2 albeit on max settings.

 

[Protagonist]

its inevitable to upgrade the whole system, and yes it will run BF3 max settings @ 1680x1050

as i said 1920x1200 or less will run at max with you're current rig if you remove GTX260 and Replace it with GTX560,
anything above 30 frames if perfectly playable

 

[Darkleoco]

its inevitable to upgrade the whole system, and yes it will run BF3 max settings @ 1680x1050

as i said 1920x1200 or less will run at max with you're current rig if you remove GTX260 and Replace it with GTX560,
anything above 30 frames if perfectly playable

I guess that comes down to a difference in what we consider perfectly playable

 

[Protagonist]

A single GTX 560 will NOT run BF3 on max settings at 1920x1200 and certainly not 2560x1600 where it only gets 48 FPS on 1920x1200 and 30.4 FPS on 2560x1600 in BFBC2. Not to mention him running DDR2 RAM would likely make it perform even worse in BFBC2.

In the case of mixing VGAs in this manner the only benefit would be a dedicated PhysX card, but then again as everyone else mentioned, you're gonna have to upgrade more than just the VGA.

I will run only with 1680x1050, my 22" monitor's max setting.
But my MB doesn't even support DDR3 ram
Can GTX560 output its power while being plugged on it?

I guess that comes down to a difference in what we consider perfectly playable

Maybe, i know very well that anything above 60fps is not visible to the human eye, and i know the card will pull over 60fps with the current setup. i was using 30fps figuratively so to speak

 

[Darkleoco]

Maybe, i know very well that anything above 60fps is not visible to the human eye, and i know the card will pull over 60fps with the current setup. i was using 30fps figuratively so to speak

I am skeptical that the card will pull over 60 fps at his resolution when it only gets 60.2 (1GB0 and 60.3 (2GB) on BFBC2 at 1680x1050, all I can think of is if he had anti-aliasing off as well as other eyecandy he might pull 60 with that card barely considering the test system used an i7 920 @ 3.8 GHz as well as 6 GB of DDR3 RAM to achieve at best 60 FPS on BFBC2 at the same resolution.

 

[Protagonist]

I am skeptical that the card will pull over 60 fps at his resolution when it only gets 60.2 (1GB0 and 60.3 (2GB) on BFBC2 at 1680x1050, all I can think of is if he had anti-aliasing off as well as other eyecandy he might pull 60 with that card barely considering the test system used an i7 920 @ 3.8 GHz as well as 6 GB of DDR3 RAM to achieve at best 60 FPS on BFBC2 at the same resolution.

If its all about high frame rates then it has something to do with Mostly the GPU so he should get more muscle GPUs GTX570, GTX580, AMD Radeon HD 6950 or 6970

 

[N-Gen]

If its all about high frame rates then it has something to do with Mostly the GPU so he should get more muscle GPUs GTX570, GTX580, AMD Radeon HD 6950 or 6970

I guess there would be some kind of bottleneck, if not, really close to one.

 

[Crap Daddy]

Relax man. Get the 560, Ti would be even better. Of course you'll have to build a new machine sooner than later, but you'll be able to play the game smoothly with medium settings or even high. The CPU worries me a little bit since BF3, as BFBC2 rely on CPU power and four cores.

 

[Protagonist]

I guess there would be some kind of bottleneck, if not, really close to one.

there will be no smoke, I've played games at a friends place his rig spex are

Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.7GHz LGA775
RAM 4GB ADATA Gaming Series DDR2
Motherboard Intel DG45ID Media Series
GTX 570
PSU OCZ 650Watts
HDD 500GB
Display 1920x1080

I have never seen smoke coming out the rig, it works fine

 

[Darkleoco]

there will be no smoke, I've played games at a friends place his rig spex are

Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.7GHz LGA775
RAM 4GB ADATA Gaming Series DDR2
Motherboard Intel DG45ID Media Series
GTX 570
PSU OCZ 650Watts
HDD 500GB
Display 1920x1080

I have never seen smoke coming out the rig, it works fine

He didn't say anything about smoke? A bottleneck simply means one or more components are not working efficiently/effectively due to another part of the system.

 

[eidairaman1]

He didn't say anything about smoke? A bottleneck simply means one or more components are not working efficiently/effectively due to another part of the system.

think of traffic lanes or the neck of a bottle, when stuff is cramped it becomes slow

 

[N-Gen]

He didn't say anything about smoke? A bottleneck simply means one or more components are not working efficiently/effectively due to another part of the system.

Which most of us know you always have a bottleneck, otherwise you'd get insane performance. (As a side note, the main bottleneck culprit is an HDD, but there are much more bottlenecks out there, some of which we don't even look at.)

 

[eidairaman1]

memory timings come into play

 

[MilkyWay]

Some games are heavy on the cpu, id reckon with BF3 being DX10/11 native no DX9, well i think it might be cpu limited on an older dual core.

You should be able to play it at decent settings but a semi rebuild would be in order eventually.

 

[Protagonist]

Which most of us know you always have a bottleneck, otherwise you'd get insane performance. (As a side note, the main bottleneck culprit is an HDD, but there are much more bottlenecks out there, some of which we don't even look at.)

Told like it is,...

 

[MilkyWay]

A bottleneck in laymen's terms is when one piece of a system is slower so it holds back another. A gtx580 in a pentium 4 would be slow.

 

[Ronarch]

A bottleneck in laymen's terms is when one piece of a system is slower so it holds back another. A gtx580 in a pentium 4 would be slow.

That's what I am worrying
So will it happen if a GTX560 is working with my:
Gigabyte EP43-UD3L
E7600 core2duo 3.06ghz
Kingston DDR2 4GB
???