• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Fastest AM3 CPU for AM2NF3-VSTA

Status
Not open for further replies.

Jayzilla

New Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2009
Messages
85 (0.02/day)
Hi people. First. Happy New Year to yo'll.

My title probably said it all. That is best AGP board I can find around. I already have some kick ass DDR2 memories and some highest-end AGP cards like the Gainward 7800GS+, XFX 7900-7950 and the GECUBE HX195XTGA3-D3 which is I don't have it yet. My goal is to max out the AGP cards I have. Please don't tell me to upgrade. I'm a AGP Nerd.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=AM2NF3-VSTA
That is the board I have.

Here is the CPU support list.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/cpu.asp?Model=AM2NF3-VSTA

The top CPU of that list is AMD Phenom II X4 970 3.5GHz. My questions are will this board support a 6-core CPU? They are AM3 socket. If so what is the fastest stock-speed AM3 CPU I could buy?
 
Joined
Jan 7, 2008
Messages
3,924 (0.66/day)
System Name Main / Home Media Serever
Processor Intel i5 2500k @ 4.75ghz / AMD AM3 5200+ x2
Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance / Biostar 790GX
Cooling Xigmatek Dark Knight / XIGMATEK Apache
Memory 12gb of G.Skill Value Series DDR3 / 4x 1gb DDR2
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon 6870 1gb / Asus Radeon 5450 512mb
Storage 2x Samsung 830 64gb SSD Raid 0 & 750gb WD Blue HDD / OCZ Vertex II 80GB & 10TB of HDD Space
Display(s) 2x Acer 24" LED / Samsung 50" LED
Case Xigmatek Asgard II / APEX PC-389-C
Power Supply Rosewill 750w / Antec EArthwatts 380w
Software Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 / Ubuntu 14.04
Umm AM3 and AGP don't mix.

Honestly I wouldnt use anything higher then a 775 p4 chip or 939 athlon x2 with agp.

But if you insist the highest chip the motherboard with support is the 970. According to the support list it will not do x6 chips, which would be a waste anyways.
 

JustaTinkerer

New Member
Joined
Nov 27, 2011
Messages
271 (0.06/day)
Location
Scotland
System Name Just need to tidy it up now
Processor FX-8120
Motherboard Asus M5A99X EVO 990X
Cooling Custom Water
Memory Corsair Vengeance 8GB
Video Card(s) BFG GTX 280 H2OC
Storage OCZ ocz vertex plus(60GB), 2TB hdd
Display(s) 1x ACER x19ws ( need new one)
Case Custom
Power Supply (GOT) OCZ GameXStream 1010 Watt
Software LOL
Benchmark Scores Soon, very very soon, just need to tidy it up.
No talking you out of AGP...ok wont try :)

No x6 support sorry .

I wouldnt go for the AMD Phenom II X4 970 3.5GHz, I would go for the AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz and overclock just a touch for 970 speeds.

You are saving yourself £30+ (well that would be the saving in UK.
You have the hardware to OC so whats the point in spending the extra money for the 970.
Though your question is "whats the fastest stock speed" and that is the AMD Phenom II X4 970
 

Jayzilla

New Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2009
Messages
85 (0.02/day)
Umm AM3 and AGP don't mix.

Honestly I wouldnt use anything higher then a 775 p4 chip or 939 athlon x2 with agp.

But if you insist the highest chip the motherboard with support is the 970. According to the support list it will not do x6 chips, which would be a waste anyways.

No talking you out of AGP...ok wont try :)

No x6 support sorry .

I wouldnt go for the AMD Phenom II X4 970 3.5GHz, I would go for the AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz and overclock just a touch for 970 speeds.

You are saving yourself £30+ (well that would be the saving in UK.
You have the hardware to OC so whats the point in spending the extra money for the 970.
Though your question is "whats the fastest stock speed" and that is the AMD Phenom II X4 970
.

I bet that CPU Support List hasn't been updated for years. What is the chance of this board will run with a 6core CPU? Maybe nobody even bother to try and waste time on the old stuff. For exp: If this board support Phenom II X4 970. It should support 975 and 980. They are in Deneb family and AM3 socket, but these two Quadies doesn't in that list and they are came out in 2011. This board is from 5-6 years ago.

Most of my hardware are discontinued long time ago. They are pretty hard to replace because once they are gone. They are gone FOREVER. So I never OC them. I just like to collect them.

I just found out the Phenom II X4 980 3.7GHz is the fastest AM3 quady :)
 
Joined
Jan 7, 2008
Messages
3,924 (0.66/day)
System Name Main / Home Media Serever
Processor Intel i5 2500k @ 4.75ghz / AMD AM3 5200+ x2
Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance / Biostar 790GX
Cooling Xigmatek Dark Knight / XIGMATEK Apache
Memory 12gb of G.Skill Value Series DDR3 / 4x 1gb DDR2
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon 6870 1gb / Asus Radeon 5450 512mb
Storage 2x Samsung 830 64gb SSD Raid 0 & 750gb WD Blue HDD / OCZ Vertex II 80GB & 10TB of HDD Space
Display(s) 2x Acer 24" LED / Samsung 50" LED
Case Xigmatek Asgard II / APEX PC-389-C
Power Supply Rosewill 750w / Antec EArthwatts 380w
Software Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 / Ubuntu 14.04
What do u mean not updated in years? The last BIOS updates are to increase CPU compatibility. Very small chance that the board may run an x6 thuban or newer x4. I wouldn't bother though waste of time and money. Those ago cards would bottleneck an AM3 sempron. Don't spend another penny on your current rig. Keep it as a backup and save for a new PC.

Edit: People on hardforum are saying the exact same thing:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1662209
 
Last edited:

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
18,914 (2.86/day)
Location
Piteå
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
VR HMD Acer Mixed Reality Headset
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
Very small chance that the board may run an x6 thuban or newer x4.

They do run newer x4's. Says nothing about x6's though. But yeah, I agree that for serious use anything AGP based is not enough.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
27,680 (4.29/day)
Location
Houston
System Name All the cores
Processor 2990WX
Motherboard Asrock X399M
Cooling CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory 4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard Keychron K8
Software W10P
Since it appears you are just getting it to play with some old cards I can respect that. NF3 is an aging platform to play with....Good luck with drivers I had to use some old beta vista 64 bit drivers to install windows 7 on my NF3 s754 board. It supports the Phenom X4 970 you may as well go with it. It probably will never support thuban if I had to guess I would say the board is lacking some bits and bobs for it to work. It also shows no 960T support so its not just an X6 thing.


I can't say anything for keeping old shit alive I still have more fun clocking my s754 stuff than more modern stuff. It has gotten to easy :shadedshu
 

Jayzilla

New Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2009
Messages
85 (0.02/day)
What do u mean not updated in years? The last BIOS updates are to increase CPU compatibility. Very small chance that the board may run an x6 thuban or newer x4. I wouldn't bother though waste of time and money. Those ago cards would bottleneck an AM3 sempron. Don't spend another penny on your current rig. Keep it as a backup and save for a new PC.

Edit: People on hardforum are saying the exact same thing:
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1662209

The CPU support list isn't complete so I'm guessing they don't bother to update the info. As I mentioned earlier they don't have 750 and 780 in that list.

From the replies from you guys I think I have to give up buying a 6-core CPU, but I'll give it a try if I ever have a chance.

A penny? I think I spend more than 1K on AGP and DDR memories in this year. I resell them if I need to. You might think "this guy is nuts". What do you think of some one driving a shinny 65 Mustang? :) I just like to keep and collect old stuff.

That guy a HF is me. These are the only forums I stick around.

Since it appears you are just getting it to play with some old cards I can respect that. NF3 is an aging platform to play with....Good luck with drivers I had to use some old beta vista 64 bit drivers to install windows 7 on my NF3 s754 board. It supports the Phenom X4 970 you may as well go with it. It probably will never support thuban if I had to guess I would say the board is lacking some bits and bobs for it to work. It also shows no 960T support so its not just an X6 thing.


I can't say anything for keeping old shit alive I still have more fun clocking my s754 stuff than more modern stuff. It has gotten to easy :shadedshu

No shit. I have that board too and a Lanparty NF4 with a Opteron 185 on it. For AGP and DDR parts I only run Windows XP 64 bit so I don't have much to worry about drivers. I have an i7 for games and a laptop to use daily basic.
 
Joined
Jan 7, 2008
Messages
3,924 (0.66/day)
System Name Main / Home Media Serever
Processor Intel i5 2500k @ 4.75ghz / AMD AM3 5200+ x2
Motherboard ASRock Fatal1ty P67 Performance / Biostar 790GX
Cooling Xigmatek Dark Knight / XIGMATEK Apache
Memory 12gb of G.Skill Value Series DDR3 / 4x 1gb DDR2
Video Card(s) XFX Radeon 6870 1gb / Asus Radeon 5450 512mb
Storage 2x Samsung 830 64gb SSD Raid 0 & 750gb WD Blue HDD / OCZ Vertex II 80GB & 10TB of HDD Space
Display(s) 2x Acer 24" LED / Samsung 50" LED
Case Xigmatek Asgard II / APEX PC-389-C
Power Supply Rosewill 750w / Antec EArthwatts 380w
Software Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1 / Ubuntu 14.04
A penny? I think I spend more than 1K on AGP and DDR memories in this year. I resell them if I need to. You might think "this guy is nuts". What do you think of some one driving a shinny 65 Mustang? I just like to keep and collect old stuff.

:roll:

Im sorry but that comment just made my day. Thats a completely irrelevant comparison. A 65 mustang in good shape (shinny) increases in value compared to its original investment, for the most part agp does not. A 65 mustang can go the speed limit on the road, an agp card cannot keep up at the same speeds as current cars. A 65 mustang is street legal, an agp card is not allowed in current pci-e slots. See where I am going with this... :p

The CPU support list isn't complete so I'm guessing they don't bother to update the info. As I mentioned earlier they don't have 750 and 780 in that list.

Of course its not complete, but the latest bios update was to provide cpu codes to run the 970 x4. Nothing newer. They havent released a more update to date bios update to run the x4 975 or x4 980. Now that doesnt mean they won't work but it wont officially be supported by the bios, may not run at correct speeds, or just may not work at all. That being said might just work 100% fine but I wouldnt bet on it.
 
Joined
Jul 19, 2006
Messages
43,585 (6.74/day)
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
Motherboard ASUS TUF x670e
Cooling EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans.
Memory 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 4090
Storage WD m.2
Display(s) LG C2 Evo OLED 42"
Case Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo
Audio Device(s) Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp.
Power Supply FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W
Mouse Razer Basilisk V3 Pro
Keyboard Tester84
Software Windows 11
I bet that CPU Support List hasn't been updated for years.

Looking at the power delivery components of your motherboard, there's no way it's going to handle a 6 core CPU. The PII 970 is a newer chip, so the CPU list has been updated recently.
 

de.das.dude

Pro Indian Modder
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
8,755 (1.74/day)
Location
Stuck in a PC. halp.
System Name Monke | Work Thinkpad| Old Monke
Processor Ryzen 5600X | Ryzen 5500U | FX8320
Motherboard ASRock B550 Extreme4 | ? | Asrock 990FX Extreme 4
Cooling 240mm Rad | Not needed | hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 Corsair RGB | 16 GB DDR4 3600 | 16GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX6700XT 12GB | Vega 8 | Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB
Storage Samsung 980 nvme (Primary) | some samsung SSD
Display(s) Dell 2723DS | Some 14" 1080p 98%sRGB IPS | Dell 2240L
Case Ant Esports Tempered case | Thinkpad | Antec
Audio Device(s) Logitech Z333 | Jabra corpo stuff
Power Supply Corsair RM750e | not needed | Corsair GS 600
Mouse Logitech G400 | nipple
Keyboard Logitech G213 | stock kb is awesome | Logitech K230
VR HMD ;_;
Software Windows 10 Professional x3
Benchmark Scores There are no marks on my bench
i think a sempron is max those cards out.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
40,435 (6.61/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1038200474

check that for your answer.

And Save your Money For a System Upgrade, not just the CPU but a motherboard, Video card, Ram, Powersupply.

My Bros Machine cost about 600 bux (Built it of course) and without any software tweaks, boots and shuts down in a minute and Plays all HD content just fine (he dont game so im unaware of the 6770s capabilities)

To Top it off you would critically hamper the CPUs Capability because of the HT bus being slower and plus the Ram being under spec. If you want an X6 its time to upgrade it all. Just keep the other machine as a spare.
 
Last edited:

Jayzilla

New Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2009
Messages
85 (0.02/day)
:roll:

Im sorry but that comment just made my day. Thats a completely irrelevant comparison. A 65 mustang in good shape (shinny) increases in value compared to its original investment, for the most part agp does not. A 65 mustang can go the speed limit on the road, an agp card cannot keep up at the same speeds as current cars. A 65 mustang is street legal, an agp card is not allowed in current pci-e slots. See where I am going with this... :p

No need to sorry man. Glad that I made your day, I did not make any comparison. In fact, you did! My point is some people collect old stuff as a hobby.

Of course its not complete, but the latest bios update was to provide cpu codes to run the 970 x4. Nothing newer. They havent released a more update to date bios update to run the x4 975 or x4 980. Now that doesnt mean they won't work but it wont officially be supported by the bios, may not run at correct speeds, or just may not work at all. That being said might just work 100% fine but I wouldnt bet on it.

The last CPU update code for this board is 3/5/2010, and the Phenom II X4 970 was released on 9/21/2010. So the last code wasn't designed for 970 specifically but it does support the chip. Why excludes the 975 and 980? They are in the same Deneb family. That is my reason to believed. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Looking at the power delivery components of your motherboard, there's no way it's going to handle a 6 core CPU. The PII 970 is a newer chip, so the CPU list has been updated recently.

I have a tool/code that able to tell if a website has been updated. But I forgot what is it.

i think a sempron is max those cards out.

I got a much better score with my Athlon 6400+ AM2. I made a jump from a Sempron last week.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1038200474

check that for your answer.

And Save your Money For a System Upgrade, not just the CPU but a motherboard, Video card, Ram, Powersupply.

My Bros Machine cost about 600 bux (Built it of course) and without any software tweaks, boots and shuts down in a minute and Plays all HD content just fine (he dont game so im unaware of the 6770s capabilities)

To Top it off you would critically hamper the CPUs Capability because of the HT bus being slower and plus the Ram being under spec. If you want an X6 its time to upgrade it all. Just keep the other machine as a spare.

Please understand I do this for hobby. I have a gaming machine and a home server.
 
Joined
Jun 29, 2007
Messages
1,243 (0.20/day)
Location
Repentigny, QC, CANADA
System Name CTG Computer
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5800x
Motherboard Asus Strix B550-F
Cooling Noctua NH-U14S
Memory 2x 16gb G.SKILL F4-3600C16D-32GTZN
Video Card(s) Gigabyte RX6800XT Gaming OC
Storage WD Black SN850 1TB
Display(s) MAG274QRF-QD | Asus vg248qe
Case Fractal Meshify 2
Audio Device(s) Creative SoundBlasterx G6
Power Supply eVGA SuperNova 750w G2
Mouse Logitech G pro Wireless
Keyboard Corsair Strafe RGB MK2
Software Windows 10 Pro x64
First, remember this:

*If you use AM3 / AM2+ CPU on AM2 chipset motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200 MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s), but the CPU frequency will not be influenced.

*If you adopt AMD Phenom™ X4 AM2+ CPU on this motherboard with AGP VGA cards, please click here for AGP VGA Card support list.


Your HT will drop to the 1.0 instead 3. And there a re a list of graphics card that are supported here: http://www.asrock.com/support/note/AM2NF3-VSTA.html#Phenom
 

de.das.dude

Pro Indian Modder
Joined
Jun 13, 2010
Messages
8,755 (1.74/day)
Location
Stuck in a PC. halp.
System Name Monke | Work Thinkpad| Old Monke
Processor Ryzen 5600X | Ryzen 5500U | FX8320
Motherboard ASRock B550 Extreme4 | ? | Asrock 990FX Extreme 4
Cooling 240mm Rad | Not needed | hyper 212 EVO
Memory 2x16GB DDR4 3600 Corsair RGB | 16 GB DDR4 3600 | 16GB DDR3 1600
Video Card(s) Sapphire Pulse RX6700XT 12GB | Vega 8 | Sapphire Pulse RX580 8GB
Storage Samsung 980 nvme (Primary) | some samsung SSD
Display(s) Dell 2723DS | Some 14" 1080p 98%sRGB IPS | Dell 2240L
Case Ant Esports Tempered case | Thinkpad | Antec
Audio Device(s) Logitech Z333 | Jabra corpo stuff
Power Supply Corsair RM750e | not needed | Corsair GS 600
Mouse Logitech G400 | nipple
Keyboard Logitech G213 | stock kb is awesome | Logitech K230
VR HMD ;_;
Software Windows 10 Professional x3
Benchmark Scores There are no marks on my bench
you should worry more about getting a motherboard instead IMO.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
27,680 (4.29/day)
Location
Houston
System Name All the cores
Processor 2990WX
Motherboard Asrock X399M
Cooling CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory 4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard Keychron K8
Software W10P
First, remember this:

*If you use AM3 / AM2+ CPU on AM2 chipset motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200 MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s), but the CPU frequency will not be influenced.

*If you adopt AMD Phenom™ X4 AM2+ CPU on this motherboard with AGP VGA cards, please click here for AGP VGA Card support list.


Your HT will drop to the 1.0 instead 3. And there a re a list of graphics card that are supported here: http://www.asrock.com/support/note/AM2NF3-VSTA.html#Phenom

That is the same with all of these style boards it was designed before HT3 came out and thats why it downgrades. The video cards are known support it is the style AGP slot it has that limits support most modern cards work without issues.

you should worry more about getting a motherboard instead IMO.

Why? AGP boards are rare and hard to find with that amount of support
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
40,435 (6.61/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
The Highest your gonna get is the X4, 975/980 will not be recognized properly. X6 will not work with it.
 

cdawall

where the hell are my stars
Joined
Jul 23, 2006
Messages
27,680 (4.29/day)
Location
Houston
System Name All the cores
Processor 2990WX
Motherboard Asrock X399M
Cooling CPU-XSPC RayStorm Neo, 2x240mm+360mm, D5PWM+140mL, GPU-2x360mm, 2xbyski, D4+D5+100mL
Memory 4x16GB G.Skill 3600
Video Card(s) (2) EVGA SC BLACK 1080Ti's
Storage 2x Samsung SM951 512GB, Samsung PM961 512GB
Display(s) Dell UP2414Q 3840X2160@60hz
Case Caselabs Mercury S5+pedestal
Audio Device(s) Fischer HA-02->Fischer FA-002W High edition/FA-003/Jubilate/FA-011 depending on my mood
Power Supply Seasonic Prime 1200w
Mouse Thermaltake Theron, Steam controller
Keyboard Keychron K8
Software W10P
The Highest your gonna get is the X4, 975/980 will not be recognized properly. X6 will not work with it.

That is assuming the FID/VID settings go correct. they might ned up being a 800mhz chip because it cannot set the FID.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
40,435 (6.61/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
That is assuming the FID/VID settings go correct. they might ned up being a 800mhz chip because it cannot set the FID.

compatibility on the site states 970 BE and thats the highest it can go without requiring another Bios Update
 

Jayzilla

New Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2009
Messages
85 (0.02/day)
No talking you out of AGP...ok wont try :)

No x6 support sorry .

I wouldnt go for the AMD Phenom II X4 970 3.5GHz, I would go for the AMD Phenom II X4 955 3.2GHz and overclock just a touch for 970 speeds.

You are saving yourself £30+ (well that would be the saving in UK.
You have the hardware to OC so whats the point in spending the extra money for the 970.
Though your question is "whats the fastest stock speed" and that is the AMD Phenom II X4 970



The Highest your gonna get is the X4, 975/980 will not be recognized properly. X6 will not work with it.

compatibility on the site states 970 BE and thats the highest it can go without requiring another Bios Update

:roll:

Im sorry but that comment just made my day. Thats a completely irrelevant comparison. A 65 mustang in good shape (shinny) increases in value compared to its original investment, for the most part agp does not. A 65 mustang can go the speed limit on the road, an agp card cannot keep up at the same speeds as current cars. A 65 mustang is street legal, an agp card is not allowed in current pci-e slots. See where I am going with this... :p



Of course its not complete, but the latest bios update was to provide cpu codes to run the 970 x4. Nothing newer. They havent released a more update to date bios update to run the x4 975 or x4 980. Now that doesnt mean they won't work but it wont officially be supported by the bios, may not run at correct speeds, or just may not work at all. That being said might just work 100% fine but I wouldnt bet on it.

Dudes. I have been right alone in the CPU support list. IT DOES SUPPORTS Phenom II X4 980! I have it in my system right fkin now. It changed my point of view in the hardware forever. I also tried the Phenom II X6 1045T without succeed. Sadly some of the Futuremark benchmark scores are lower than my Duo-core.

Interestingly I found a thread that some one is running a X6 on this board.

http://futuremark.yougamers.com/for...dom-motherboard-of-the-day-Asrock-AM2NF3-VSTA

Sorry that takes me a while to collect all the parts. Now I have the fastest Phenom and the fastest AGP. I just need a some water cooling stuff and lots of modding part to start a work log. I promise this would be the coolest AGP system ever if not the fastest.




First, remember this:

*If you use AM3 / AM2+ CPU on AM2 chipset motherboard, the system bus speed will downgrade from HT3.0 (5200 MT/s) to HT1.0 (2000 MT/s), but the CPU frequency will not be influenced.

*If you adopt AMD Phenom™ X4 AM2+ CPU on this motherboard with AGP VGA cards, please click here for AGP VGA Card support list.


Your HT will drop to the 1.0 instead 3. And there a re a list of graphics card that are supported here: http://www.asrock.com/support/note/AM2NF3-VSTA.html#Phenom

That list doesn't have the HD3850. So I'm fine. And I tried them all too.
 
Last edited:

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
18,914 (2.86/day)
Location
Piteå
System Name Black MC in Tokyo
Processor Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + some headphones, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
VR HMD Acer Mixed Reality Headset
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
Old thread, but are you the same jayzilla that hangs on GN? If yes, this is completely retarded. You have money.
 

OneMoar

There is Always Moar
Joined
Apr 9, 2010
Messages
8,740 (1.71/day)
Location
Rochester area
System Name RPC MK2.5
Processor Ryzen 5800x
Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Pro V2
Cooling Enermax ETX-T50RGB
Memory CL16 BL2K16G36C16U4RL 3600 1:1 micron e-die
Video Card(s) GIGABYTE RTX 3070 Ti GAMING OC
Storage ADATA SX8200PRO NVME 512GB, Intel 545s 500GBSSD, ADATA SU800 SSD, 3TB Spinner
Display(s) LG Ultra Gear 32 1440p 165hz Dell 1440p 75hz
Case Phanteks P300 /w 300A front panel conversion
Audio Device(s) onboard
Power Supply SeaSonic Focus+ Platinum 750W
Mouse Kone burst Pro
Keyboard EVGA Z15
Software Windows 11 +startisallback
AGP IS Dead GIVE IT UP AGP is not even old enough to be worth a 'retro' build
 

master_rigbuilder

New Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2013
Messages
12 (0.00/day)
Location
Philippines
Frick

I'm master_rigbuilder don't mistake me for someone else mind your own!


OneMoar

This is what I want to build AGP retro or modern if I want the system unit I will build it mind your own!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top