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Hello friends,

Below is a list of parts for a low budget PC that grandpa and grandson hope to build. Could you please take a look and see if the parts are suitable for a low end PC for general duties around the house? Light video games, internet browsing, MS Flight/Train simulator.
NO on line gaming, movie downloads, SLI/XF, etc.
We raided our piggy banks and have about $700 to spend.
We thank you for any help and assistance.

Silverstone Strider Essential ST50F-ES 500W Power Supply ATX 24PIN 120MM Fan 34A 80+ Black
Antec Sonata III Black ATX 16IN Mid Tower Quiet Case 3X5.25 2X3.5 4X3.5IN 500W 120MM Fan
Samsung SH-222AL 22X DVD Writer SATA Lightscribe OEM
ASUS Radeon HD 6670 810MHZ 1GB 4GHZ DDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort DirectX 11 PCI-E Video Card
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
MSI H61MA-E35 (B3) H61 mATX LGA1155 DDR3 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 SATA3 USB3 HDMI DVI VGA Motherboard
Intel Pentium Dual Core G850 Processor LGA1155 2.9GHZ 3MB Retail Box
Western Digital WD Caviar Blue 250GB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 16MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive OEM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM

Grandpa
 

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Looks pretty good but I'd go for a better processor, and less RAM. Possibly a better video card and you might even be able to skimp on the PSU a bit (400-450W)
 
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For cheap PC build for general use and minor gaming you are better off with an AMD APU, 4 GB of RAM at 1866 MHz. You should also consider getting a much cheaper case like a Nzxt Source 210 Elite or BitFenix Outlaw. You could also get away with a 450W PSU or 400W (if you stick with the IGP on an APU).

All and all you could shave around $100 buck or more out of your current build.
 
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you can take xigmatek asgard example
but if you wanna low erase the graphic card, use onboard card
if you say its for gaming, what type and what resolution you are on
 
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What sort of recommended system requirements are needed to play the mentioned games?

Once the recommended system requirements are recognized then there will be a base on what to start the performance tier of the machine from.

Also based on the resolution of the monitor as mentioned.
 
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Hello friends,

Below is a list of parts for a low budget PC that grandpa and grandson hope to build. Could you please take a look and see if the parts are suitable for a low end PC for general duties around the house? Light video games, internet browsing, MS Flight/Train simulator.
NO on line gaming, movie downloads, SLI/XF, etc.
We raided our piggy banks and have about $700 to spend.
We thank you for any help and assistance.

Silverstone Strider Essential ST50F-ES 500W Power Supply ATX 24PIN 120MM Fan 34A 80+ Black
Antec Sonata III Black ATX 16IN Mid Tower Quiet Case 3X5.25 2X3.5 4X3.5IN 500W 120MM Fan
Samsung SH-222AL 22X DVD Writer SATA Lightscribe OEM
ASUS Radeon HD 6670 810MHZ 1GB 4GHZ DDR5 DVI HDMI DisplayPort DirectX 11 PCI-E Video Card
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit
MSI H61MA-E35 (B3) H61 mATX LGA1155 DDR3 1PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 SATA3 USB3 HDMI DVI VGA Motherboard
Intel Pentium Dual Core G850 Processor LGA1155 2.9GHZ 3MB Retail Box
Western Digital WD Caviar Blue 250GB SATA 6GB/S 7200RPM 16MB Cache 3.5IN Internal Hard Drive OEM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT SP1 DVD OEM

Grandpa

no just NO
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1. its for a low budget pc guys, why should he spend more?
2. them intel gxxx cpu's are pretty good for a budget cpu, they are faster than a c2d.

I thinks that's a fine build for what he's going to use it for.
 

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1. its for a low budget pc guys, why should he spend more?
2. them intel gxxx cpu's are pretty good for a budget cpu, they are faster than a c2d.

I thinks that's a fine build for what he's going to use it for.

NO give me anouther 30 seconds
 

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sorry you will need to settle for a screenshot of the cart neweggs public lists are broken atm
http://cl.ly/D0WK
that will run circles around that gawd awe-full old intel build the op suggested
total is 697.44 SHIPPED you could knock 40 or 50 bucks off the price if you swap in some cheaper stuff ..
and if you step up another 40 or 50 bucks you have the option to go with a AMD phenom II but for what its getting used for I doubt its worth it

if the machine is gonna do ANY kind of gaming light or otherwise a quad core cpu is a must even if its just playing angry birds ....
sims especially will benefit from the extra cores
anouther option would be something APU based with a 6650 crossfired with the apu ....
heres a screenshot of something APU based
http://cl.ly/D0T0
you *could* forget the 6670 and still be ok graphics power wise ... but no battle field 3 for you ><
the APUS really shine with 1866+ ddr3 ram
 
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sorry you will need to settle for a screenshot of the cart neweggs public lists are broken atm
http://cl.ly/D0WK
that will run circles around that gawd awe-full old intel build the op suggested
total is 697.44 SHIPPED you could knock 40 or 50 bucks off the price if you swap in some cheaper stuff ..
and if you step up another 40 or 50 bucks you have the option to go with a AMD phenom II but for what its getting used for I doubt its worth it

if the machine is gonna do ANY kind of gaming light or otherwise a quad core cpu is a must even if its just playing angry birds ....
sims especially will benefit from the extra cores
anouther option would be something APU based with a 6650 crossfired with the apu ....
heres a screenshot of something APU based
http://cl.ly/D0T0
you *could* forget the 6670 and still be ok graphics power wise ... but no battle field 3 for you ><
the APUS really shine with 1866+ ddr3 ram

Why did you include aftermarket CPU coolers? He doesn't sound like he'd be doing any overclocking. And I still think 8GB is overkill. Get rid of those two things and increase HDD (250gb? seriously?) and possibly get a better GPU for the same money.
 

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250gb is within 10 bucks of a the 120
and the after market cooler is simply because ....
and for the apu build the 6670 is the fastest GPU you can get thats compatable with the on-chip gpu for crossfire
 

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250gb is within 10 bucks of a the 120
and the after market cooler is simply because ....
and for the apu build the 6670 is the fastest GPU you can get thats compatable with the on-chip gpu for crossfire

I meant increasing the size of the HDD.
 

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Games now will play fine on the APU's GPU in the future you could always snag a higher end GPU if gaming needs dictate it. As it sits its not much slower than the 6670 you spec'd



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I was thinking some more like this totalling $606:

The Build

And you can get the mobo + APU in a combo here to shave off another $13: Combo APU deal
 
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I was thinking some more like this totalling $606:

The Build

And you can get the mobo + APU in a combo here to shave off another $13: Combo APU deal

That's a nice build- can save a few $$$ if you use 2x2GB of ram. I ordered the white Source 210 from the Egg over the weekend, should have it tomorrow- reviews have been pretty good on these (including one here at TPU)

@Laughing Man- tried to respond to your visitor message but couldn't do so? :rolleyes:
 
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why is everyone reccommending 8gb of ram for a budget build? 4gb is cheaper and for a budget build totally fine even for gaming
 

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why is everyone reccommending 8gb of ram for a budget build? 4gb is cheaper and for a budget build totally fine even for gaming

because they don't know any better
and don't use rosewill cases there complete and utter junk and the psu's they give you with the case are a fire-hazzard ....
 
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This will be able to handle anything for you. $580
That's the fastest DVD drive on newegg.
 
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why is everyone reccommending 8gb of ram for a budget build? 4gb is cheaper and for a budget build totally fine even for gaming

Cause 8 GB of RAM is still cheap and you have to share the RAM with the IGP. So I expected 1 GB to be used as VRAM. And Windows 7 is a little smoother and faster with 8 GB of RAM in my experience.

because they don't know any better
and don't use rosewill cases there complete and utter junk and the psu's they give you with the case are a fire-hazzard ....

I know plenty better. Some of the cheap $10 to $35 Rosewill cases are indeed crap, but not all of them. And those PSUs are hit or miss. I had an old 380W throw away unit that lasted me several months in a friends rig.
 

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why is everyone reccommending 8gb of ram for a budget build? 4gb is cheaper and for a budget build totally fine even for gaming

Because its a huge $40 for 8GB why wouldn't you spend an extra $15 on twice the ram?

because they don't know any better
and don't use rosewill cases there complete and utter junk and the psu's they give you with the case are a fire-hazzard ....

Depends entirely on the model there have been a good number of tests showing the opposite.
 
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Seriously guys lets look at the original question being put to us here... they are looking for a "budget" PC capable of "light" gaming with something like a 6670 gfx card... and you are coming up with 8GB of system memory is necessary?

4GB is plenty and even though 8GB is cheap thesedays this is a budget system...a lot of stuff is cheap doesnt mean you should buy it or actually need it ;)

EDIT: look no offense, 8gb is better than 4gb but unless they will be running multiple gfx cards, VMware or high performance processors on a 64bit operating system 8GB is overkill and silly for a budget build
 
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Seriously guys lets look at the original question being put to us here... they are looking for a "budget" PC capable of "light" gaming with something like a 6670 gfx card... and you are coming up with 8GB of system memory is necessary?

4GB is plenty and even though 8GB is cheap thesedays this is a budget system...a lot of stuff is cheap doesnt mean you should buy it or actually need it ;)

EDIT: look no offense, 8gb is better than 4gb but unless they will be running multiple gfx cards, VMware or high performance processors on a 64bit operating system 8GB is overkill and silly for a budget build

$700 budget and he started with a 250GB harddrive. I would personally take double the ram over minor CPU change. The boards are all more or less the same and with the build I wnet with he still has room for a vga. In fact with his budget

PowerColor AX6670 1GBK3-H Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-b...

that fits in there just fine and should function for crossfire with the APU...
 

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