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@Mailman.. Might as well give up man. People will take/have/be entitled to whatever they want. Piracy is just a drop in the bucket in this case. I don't want to get too much further into it, but as you can see there's this "financial crisis" happening all over the world. Why? Entitlements to those that don't work for them. We have become a welfare world and it's too late to change that until eveything crashes and dies. So.. chin up little buddy, might as well get with the gettin' while the gettin' is good.

I get a lot of my television through the Pirate Bay. I have my usb stick ready.
 

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@MailMan.. Might as well give up man. People will take/have/be entitled to whatever they want. Piracy is just a drop in the bucket in this case. I don't want to get too much further into it, but as you can see there's this "financial crisis" happening all over the world. Why? Entitlements to those that don't work for them. We have become a welfare world and it's too late to change that until eveything crashes and dies. So.. chin up little buddy, might as well get with the gettin' while the gettin' is good.

I get a lot of my television through the Pirate Bay. I have my usb stick ready.

I must say, this is one of the best posts I have seen in a VERY long time here at TPU.
 

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Its not a troll. Its a fact. Its a tool for junkies. Torrent junkies.



High horse? Because I believe in personal responsibility and hard work I'm on a high horse? Ill tell you what man. When the S#!t hits the fan people who subscribe to this "everything should be free" attitude are gonna have a rude awakening.

good information technology etc should be free. It isnt anyones problem that artists etc still blow 10k on photoshop and cant sell shit. didnt like gigabyte or something steal your logo for their black ops cards? that must have totally sucked. I cant wait for the global collapse of commerce for the free market. I doubt ill be alive to see it but i admit I love the build up.
 

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good information technology etc should be free.

There's nothing that says anything should be free, other than people's own opinion's of self-entitlement.

Because it's based on personal opinion, this discussion can go nowhere. I'm surprised you guys are still at it.

Anyway, if something is good, and helps(whether morally, or jsut helps pass the time), you should be more than willing to pony up some comphensation. Many do, many do not. The issue resolves around those that do pay, and those that do not.
 
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The media your software ships in is just a 'container'. If you bought a copy of Windows and happened to break its media (evil cat scratched the hell out of it), then it's not only ethical, but also legal to get an .iso from a torrent-site, burn it, and use the key your copy came with when installing the software.

Now if your cat was an evil reincarnation of Hitler that is plotting to kill you, and also happened to scratch off the key sticker, then I guess it's 'ethical' to download a crack, you know you paid for the software. And later deal with the cat.

Moot point. I don't own a cat, but I know not to leave things that have a large expense associated with them laying around for a cat (or whatever) to destroy.

I agree with MM in everything he says. It is only unfortunate that I have dabbled in the black arts, and so can not be as shiny as he is. I do not torrent now though.

You get what you work for.
 

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Moot point. I don't own a cat, but I know not to leave things that have a large expense associated with them laying around for a cat (or whatever) to destroy.

I agree with MM in everything he says. It is only unfortunate that I have dabbled in the black arts, and so can not be as shiny as he is. I do not torrent now though.

You get what you work for.

You do realise that the media the software ships in is called a "media" (something that facilitates the transfer of something else) in the first place, for the simple reason that that's what it's meant to do? It's a container. A nice shiny container. It's the right to use the software that you're paying for.
 
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Moot point. I don't own a cat, but I know not to leave things that have a large expense associated with them laying around for a cat (or whatever) to destroy.

I agree with MM in everything he says. It is only unfortunate that I have dabbled in the black arts, and so can not be as shiny as he is. I do not torrent now though.

You get what you work for.

MM has - shock! - downloaded illegally before, but also doesn't do this any more. He's confessed to this in several posts in other threads now, so he's not 100% shiny either. Don't feel too bad about it. ;)
 
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I mostly download back ups of the stuff I own. cds/dvds get damaged, i'm lazy to rip my cds/dvds, i downloaded stuff while waiting for my orders to arrive via the post office. over 90% of my stuff is legal. too bad companies don't provide a way for customers to download legal back up copies of the stuff they legally own.
 

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Then who will pay for "bad information technology etc"?

I just hear(read) a lot of "I don't want to pay for anything, so the economy can crash. Doesn't matter to me."


Of course, once it does crash, and you cannot go to the store to get a grain of rice or a sip of milk, they won't be happy either. It's a silly discussion that barely even deserves to be discussed.


You either contribute to society, and the economy, or you don't. It's pretty clear what side most are on, and the correllation between those that contribute to society, and those who are successful, tend to be the same group. I don't think I need to finish that thought, do I? Hmm, by some of the posts here, maybe I should.

But why bother?

Now, back to benching for a review. :laugh:
 
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There's nothing that says anything should be free, other than people's own opinion's of self-entitlement.

Because it's based on personal opinion, this discussion can go nowhere. I'm surprised you guys are still at it.

Anyway, if something is good, and helps(whether morally, or jsut helps pass the time), you should be more than willing to pony up some comphensation. Many do, many do not. The issue resolves around those that do pay, and those that do not.

I agree and disagree with this...I have no problem paying for what I want..I do have a problem with being forced to pay for a bunch of poo that I don't want in order to get it..

And I don't feel bad for these people either...I can't tell you how many times I bought a CD thinking it was good only to find out the only good song was the one that was free to hear on the radio...Or how many times I've bought software only to have it unusable because of bugs and it never got fixed and here I was thinking I was buying a reliable product.
 
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I have never used a torrent in my life. I don't even know how. No joke.

Indeed. Before torrents, you "borrowed" a game from a friend on floppies or tape/music CDs, even a video tape with some movie?? If you say you didn't I call you a LIAR. Actually, everything is borrowing from the friends. The thing with torrents is I can borrow stuff from my friends across the oceans, continents, etc. Is not like I am going to sell their stuff. Watch and delete. Listen and delete. Play and delete. Just like borrowing stuff from by best friend. ;) Only in this case give back means delete.
 

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Then who will pay for "bad information technology etc"?

probably the asians. dont they buy the shirts of the teams that lost the world cup super bowel etc?
 
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You do realise that the media the software ships in is called a "media" (something that facilitates the transfer of something else) in the first place, for the simple reason that that's what it's meant to do? It's a container. A nice shiny container. It's the right to use the software that you're paying for.

My point is that I will keep things of value nice and safe, so I would not have to resort to pirating in the firs place.
 
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MM has - shock! - downloaded illegally before, but also doesn't do this any more. He's confessed to this in several posts in other threads now, so he's not 100% shiny either. Don't feel too bad about it. ;)

Sigh. Ignorance is bliss to you I guess.
 

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I agree and disagree with this...I have no problem paying for what I want..I do have a problem with being forced to pay for a bunch of poo that I don't want in order to get it..

And I don't feel bad for these people either...I can't tell you how many times I bought a CD thinking it was good only to find out the only good song was the one that was free to hear on the radio...Or how many times I've bought software only to have it unusable because of bugs and it never got fixed and here I was thinking I was buying a reliable product.

Like BTA said..someone has to pay for the bad software, so that good softwre cn be developed, basedon the faults the bad has.


Really, I look at life in general with the attitude "You gotta have the bad to know what good is". Ying-Yang...all that. These thoughts centered around good vs. evil..all of it...it's an esotherical thought, but it's true.

I don't need to "pirate" anything to figure this out. However, the same thing keep me fomr being a "pirate".


Anyway, recently someone pirated some stuff of mine. Of course, most don't ahve this example, so don't have any perspective..they've never seen the bad side of it, so I don't find them entirely at fault, but it's kinda ignorant to ignore the big picture. Rather than treat the symptoms...you need to treat the source of the problem...and bad software just isn't the source of the problem.
 

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Sigh. Ignorance is bliss to you I guess.

Oh yeah, so just how am I 'ignorant'? lol. Let's see if you can give a straight answer to this one. :laugh:

My post is quite clear for anyone to understand and sets the record straight...
 

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we should let up on personal insults and attacks and stick to facts. like the missed comma in my post above and the foolish responses and retorts to that post which was unfortunetely taken out of context.
 

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My point is that I will keep things of value nice and safe, so I would not have to resort to pirating in the firs place.

And my point is if you've purchased software, and happened to merely break its media (accidents happen), then getting its .iso from a torrent-site and using your key is not illegal.

The media is not the product, your license to use the software is the product.
 

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And my point is if you've purchased software, and happened to merely break its media (accidents happen), then getting its .iso from a torrent-site and using your key is not illegal.



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No one is going to listen, but I'll say it anyway. If there were a little less absolutism and a little more flexibility, I think things would work out just fine.

I never thought I would hold Microsoft up as an example, but what they did with their Technet program was pure genius - especially in how they implemented it. They said, give us $150 per year and we'll give you license keys to most of our software - every OS, Office and huge pile of other stuff - not everything, but damn near everything.

Further, we'll justify that by pretending that you're a "developer" and you need all this shit for "testing." As long as we don't see software keyed to your account logging in from Somalia, Afghanistan and other lawless regions, like Belgium for example, we're cool. But most people who subscribe aren't developing jack - at least not on their home machines. I'm quite sure this comes as no surprise to folks in Redmond either.

It's a perfect example of 'you give me something I think is valuable and I'll return the favor.' They know that as long as they only go after egregious abusers of the licenses, they'll get paid and their user base will be happy. As long as you're willing to be fair and flexible, things will work out. It's when you start getting the damned lawyers involved that it all goes to shit.
 

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And my point is if you've purchased software, and happened to merely break its media (accidents happen), then getting its .iso from a torrent-site and using your key is not illegal.

The media is not the product, your license to use the software is the product.

Most companies will replace broken media for a small fee, even. I've used such services from Microsoft, Apple, and gmae companies. Never paid more than $15, shipping included.


And the whole reason they replace the media is quite specifically as you state...tehy are selling a liscence to the software, not the software itself. The actual disc itself holds very little value, period, and having a physical copy of software DOES NOT entitle you to a liscence to use it.

And because of that, things like Ubisoft's always-online DRM doesn't bother me one bit. IF access to teh media wasn't so easy via place like Pirate Bay...there'd be no need for DRM. Having used software since long before torrents, I realize that the inception of pervasive DRM has grown along with torrenting and similar softwares. There's no real question of which was hte chicken, and which was the egg.
 

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Most companies will replace broken media for a small fee, even. I've used such services from Microsoft, Apple, and gmae companies. Never paid more than $15, shipping included.


And the whole reason they replace the media is quite specifically as you state...tehy are selling a liscence to the software, not the software itself. The actual disc itself holds very little value, period, and having a physical copy of software DOES NOT entitle you to a liscence to use it.

That kind of media-replacement is a scam on companies' part. What they're doing is making you pay for what is essentially part of the packaging of the software. Software is not a physical object. The disc the software ships in is not software, it's like the plastic jewel-case the disc ships in, which is like the paperboard cover the jewel-case ships in.

One exception would be software that's shipped on Sony DADC SecuROM discs, in such cases, the media is also a component in the software (part of its DRM), and so it would be fair to buy replacement media from companies for a nominal fee.
 

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No one is going to listen, but I'll say it anyway. If there were a little less absolutism and a little more flexibility, I think things would work out just fine.

I never thought I would hold Microsoft up as an example, but what they did with their Technet program was pure genius - especially in how they implemented it. They said, give us $150 per year and we'll give you license keys to most of our software - every OS, Office and huge pile of other stuff - not everything, but damn near everything.

Further, we'll justify that by pretending that you're a "developer" and you need all this shit for "testing." As long as we don't see software keyed to your account logging in from Somalia, Afghanistan and other lawless regions, like Belgium for example, we're cool. But most people who subscribe aren't developing jack - at least not on their home machines. I'm quite sure this comes as no surprise to folks in Redmond either.

It's a perfect example of 'you give me something I think is valuable and I'll return the favor.' They know that as long as they only go after egregious abusers of the licenses, they'll get paid and their user base will be happy. As long as you're willing to be fair and flexible, things will work out. It's when you start getting the damned lawyers involved that it all goes to shit.

Brilliant point. :) Show absolutism the door.

I've bought one TechNet sub so far and got thousands upon thousands of grand of software - and all legit. I'm using Windows 7 Ultimate, Office 2003 (yes, I prefer it) and various server OSs, all from this one purchase. On top of that, you get multiple keys for each product. What a bargain! :rockout:

If Windows 8 isn't a total dog when it comes out, I'll renew my licence then specifically to get it.
 
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