TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[Radical_Edward]

It's only crunching because I make everything I own crunch.

I have it mostly for modding and tweaking, I'm hoping it'll prevent me from getting that upgrade itch as much, but it's doubtful.

 

[stinger608]

Hmm, wondering what kind of PPD could one expect out of a i5 2500K?

Reason that I ask, is I might have a smoking deal on one, and could keep my Gigabyte board to install it in and install the 2700K in the board I am receiving from Paulieg. That would give me the i7 930, i7 2500K, and i7 2700K all crunching away.

 

[KieX]

Hmm, wondering what kind of PPD could one expect out of a i5 2500K?

Reason that I ask, is I might have a smoking deal on one, and could keep my Gigabyte board to install it in and install the 2700K in the board I am receiving from Paulieg. That would give me the i7 930, i7 2500K, and i7 2700K all crunching away.

Just over 4K IIRC at 4GHz

 

[stinger608]

Just over 4K IIRC at 4GHz

Not too bad then!!! Hell, that might get me in the bottom end of the pie.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Pretty much any i5 or i7 give you amazing PPD man. Just can't go wrong with them for crunching!

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

So how well will a phenom II 965be do?

 

[Chicken Patty]

So how well will a phenom II 965be do?

Probably around 2k ppd. I would suppose. Depends on clocks.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Well hell maybe I should think about a 2500k build instead.

 

[Chicken Patty]

Well hell maybe I should think about a 2500k build instead.

For crunching I don't think you can go wrong with i5 or i7 man, just don't.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Now what makes the i5's and i7's so much better at crunching then quad phenom ii's? Just curious

 

[AlienIsGOD]

im pretty much decided on a Core i3 2xxx series for the GF/HTPC build im eventually starting, but it should still put out decent numbers Hyper Threading FTW

 

[mjkmike]

Any one cruching say no to s notice a spike in core temps or is it just my rigs. They are all up about 8c? Room temp is the same and nothing else changed.

 

[mstenholm]

Any one cruching say no to s notice a spike in core temps or is it just my rigs. They are all up about 8c? Room temp is the same and nothing else changed.

Nope, all below 50 C so no change. I don't want to know the laptop's condition, I'm sure it is hot but that's no news.

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Mine are right @ 52 so no change here.

Hey guys what would do better for me (for crunching) a x4 965BE (3.4 ghz) or a x6 1035T (2.6ghz) , both at stock clocks.

 

[KieX]

Any one cruching say no to s notice a spike in core temps or is it just my rigs. They are all up about 8c? Room temp is the same and nothing else changed.

Nope. But it definitely has an impact on the PPD, Runtime and WU. Mine all dropped significantly with a Pending Validation list growing to 50 pages. But well, don't mind numbers I'm going for the 6yr runtime contribution to help them kickstart the project.

Now what makes the i5's and i7's so much better at crunching then quad phenom ii's? Just curious

Mine are right @ 52 so no change here.

Hey guys what would do better for me (for crunching) a x4 965BE (3.4 ghz) or a x6 1035T (2.6ghz) , both at stock clocks.

Generally speaking Intel's architecture since the first Nehalem has been able to do more WCG work per clock than AMD. It's unfortunately a divide that has grown even larger recently.

The X6 for sure. WCG output scales well with CPU frequency. For example: 8 cores at 1.5GHz would output more or less the same as 4 cores at 3GHz. By that very rough measure the X6 should still be the better peformer.

If you want to get more accurate numbers try these:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2518153&postcount=208
http://flyingsuicide.net/wcg/index.php

 

[Norton]

Mine are right @ 52 so no change here.

Hey guys what would do better for me (for crunching) a x4 965BE (3.4 ghz) or a x6 1035T (2.6ghz) , both at stock clocks.

the stock 1035T is 95w so you can probably run it up to 3.0-3.2 ghz w/o breaking 125w

My temps have been fine too... the 960T @3.8 hasn't gone over 40C (Xig Dark Knight) and unlocked X2 555 @3.2 is at 45C (AC Freezer 7 rev.2)

@Mad Shot- what are you using for cooling?

 

[Norton]

nope. But it definitely has an impact on the ppd, runtime and wu. Mine all dropped significantly with a pending validation list growing to 50 pages. But well, don't mind numbers i'm going for the 6yr runtime contribution to help them kickstart the project.





Generally speaking intel's architecture since the first nehalem has been able to do more wcg work per clock than amd. It's unfortunately a divide that has grown even larger recently.

The x6 for sure. Wcg output scales well with cpu frequency. For example: 8 cores at 1.5ghz would output more or less the same as 4 cores at 3ghz. By that very rough measure the x6 should still be the better peformer.



If you want to get more accurate numbers try these:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2518153&postcount=208
http://flyingsuicide.net/wcg/index.php

Sorry for the double post....

Doesn't PPD have a direct relationship in some form to Gflops?
i.e. 48 Gflops using Intel test burn relates to approximately XXXX WCG points ( I thought I had read this somewhere in the WCG home page)

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

the stock 1035T is 95w so you can probably run it up to 3.0-3.2 ghz w/o breaking 125w

My temps have are fine too... the 960T @3.8 hasn't gone over 40C (Xig Dark Knight) and unlocked X2 555 @3.2 is at 45C (AC Freezer 7 rev.2)

@Mad Shot- what are you using for cooling?

I have very small budget for this build , with that said I am going to try and squeeze a x6 into the budget. If I can't then it will be the 965be we talked about. Or if some of my stuff sells then I can get a x6 no problem.

One has a thermaltake big blue orbII flower and the other has some type of thermalright non copper 3 pipe deal on it.
Pics Related

 

[Norton]

One has a thermaltake big blue orbII flower and the other has some type of thermalright non copper 3 pipe deal on it.
Pics Related


http://www.madboxpc.com/reviews/TTblueorb2/pitufo.jpg

http://www.frostytech.com/articleimages/200608/thermalrightUltra120_front.jpg

The thermaright in the pic is an Ultra 120 which is one of the better ones. Is this the one you have?

I have a feeling that you may be replacing a few once you try that CM 212 and see your temps

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

The thermaright in the pic is an Ultra 120 which is one of the better ones. Is this the one you have?

I have a feeling that may be replacing a few once you try that CM 212 and see your temps

The pic is very similar to the one I have except mine has only 3 pipes instead of 4. I also read up on the cm 212, and I am looking forward to that bad boy. And like you said I may switch all of them over to cm 212's.


Here is a pic of mine installed. Sorry best pic I have at the moment.

 

[Norton]

The pic is very similar to the one I have except mine has only 3 pipes instead of 4. I also read up on the cm 212, and I am looking forward to that bad boy. And like you said I may switch all of them over to cm 212's.

The 212 should drop those loads temps to the low-mids 40's..... maybe a little lower if you add on the 2nd fan. The 2nd fan mounts are in the hardware bag

 

[mstenholm]

Sorry for the double post....

Doesn't PPD have a direct relationship in some form to Gflops?
i.e. 48 Gflops using Intel test burn relates to approximately XXXX WCG points ( I thought I had read this somewhere in the WCG home page)

Correct but if the project has a wingman (more then one identical WU sent out) your will be influcend by his runtime. There will be in interpolation that should even out the calculated runtime / actual runtime to the points awarded. I posted an extreme once with around 2000 point awarded to the wingman and I got 100-200 points so sometimes it's a bit off

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

Yeah and our wingmen are sometimes a little slower then we our, hence all the pending validations I have.

 

[mstenholm]

Yeah and our wingmen are sometimes a little slower then we our, hence all the pending validations I have.

I got 74 WU pending from ONE cpu...

 

[ThE_MaD_ShOt]

I got 74 WU pending from ONE cpu...

I know what you mean. I have 5 pending that are worth combined around 1k points. With 20 total pending.