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It's the laptop in sig.

As said, I don't have that key. I have it on the keyboard, but everything recognizes it as the "'*" key. So if I want to use <, > or | I have to use the on-screen keyboard. I have the correct language installed and I've looked in the BIOS but I just can't find anything that explains it.

Anyone know what it's about? It's annoying as heck.

Thanks for looking!
 

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What laptop is it? No, don't tell me to turn on sigs and look at everyone's schrott.
 

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What laptop is it? No, don't tell me to turn on sigs and look at everyone's schrott.

Ahh good on you (seriously, they are often horrible).

It's an Asus F3J-R. Not that exact model, but the base is the. Running Windows 7 HP. I bought it from a friend in .. may I think it was and I've never gotten it to work. Now I want to start writing some C code and that key is pretty essential then.
 

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Do all the other keys that use a shift key combination work, other than those three?
 

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Yes, everything else works perfectly.

I've updated the BIOS and reset, didn't help.
 

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Fn (function) key on keyboard doing it?
 

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I'm going to suggest the obvious:

1./ Check /reinstall drivers from http://support.asus.com/download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=3&s=78&m=F3JR&os=&hashedid=5szNLZMXBJ1nm5CN esp the Intel INF, hotfix, and BIOS updater

2./ Turn on text services language bar thingie, see screenshot below

3./ Install a similar but not currently loaded Keyboard profile, like German or Canada (I see you are in Sweden)

4./ DELETE the US keyboard and the Swedish keyboard (or whatever you are running)

5./ Reboot. Reinstall Swedish and see if it now works

6./ As you can see from the screenshot, I developed my "own" keyboard to use a (German) iMac kb on my PC. Try editing the kb profile http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/goglobal/bb964665.aspx and http://www.klm32.com/KbdEdit.html. I used the MS editor.

7./ Oh, did I ask you to check there isnt some keyboard mapper software running in the background like http://code.google.com/p/keymapper/

++++++++++++

 

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Ok now I'm properly confused. I did all in bonkers post, and none of it worked. I created a custom layout but even that doesn't work. Sigh.
 

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Ok now I'm properly confused. I did all in bonkers post, and none of it worked. I created a custom layout but even that doesn't work. Sigh.

see if using the Fn key on keyboard changes that keys behaviour. sometimes a BIOS option controls that key, and it only messes with certain combinations.
 
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see if using the Fn key on keyboard changes that keys behaviour. sometimes a BIOS option controls that key, and it only messes with certain combinations.

this would be be my guess, fn keys change everything.
 

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this would be be my guess, fn keys change everything.

It partly works. Some stuff works, and some stuff doesn't. The only fn-related option is the numpad, and I've tried the different options there. But that key doesn't have fn-options anyway so it shouldn't matter (I've checked the manual to confirm this).
 
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Does your keyboard layout look like this one?

 
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Aye that's the standard swedish layout.
 
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Aye that's the standard swedish layout.

More out of curiosity than anything else...

Normally, if you hit the key without anything else, you'll get "<" , and with shift+, you'll get ">"?


Random thoughts...
Any possibility the key itself is bad? Have you tried plugging in a USB keyboard and trying?
 

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Try going into bios and typing > and < somewhere, if possible. This should tell you if your hardware is dying or if its a windows thing.
 

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More out of curiosity than anything else...

Normally, if you hit the key without anything else, you'll get "<" , and with shift+, you'll get ">"?


Random thoughts...
Any possibility the key itself is bad? Have you tried plugging in a USB keyboard and trying?

That's how it's done. And the key works, it's just that it types out the wrong letters.

Try going into bios and typing > and < somewhere, if possible. This should tell you if your hardware is dying or if its a windows thing.

I dunno where I can do that. The plan is to install something Linuxish on it (when I get the "new" system, hopefully next week), I'll find out then if it's hardware or Windows.

So I think I'll forget about it for now, I'll report back later with how it went. Thank you so much for your input!
 

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As a last bit of fun:

Remote Desktop into the machine, or give Dameware a go (my choice of remote control).

Trying remote in - and also try remote out - and see what you get on the other machine.
 

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Frick, if it has a usb port, try another keyboard there and see if those keys work on it.

You, also, may, need a keyboard device filter driver from ASUS for windows 7, since that is a non-standard keyboard.
 

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You could use AutoHotKey or a similar program to simulate the effect of X using a different key.

I would try to remove the keyboard and replace it with identical model.
 

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wait

does the * key itself work as the * key?
 
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