Warning About New Razer Products

cdawall · Nov 8, 2012

So anybody for hose new thermaltakes mice? They don't phone home and store your settings in the mouse.

Radical_Edward · Nov 8, 2012

3870x2 said:
You might have misread. If it can't call home, it loses functionality.

Oh really? I have Synapse 2.0 installed now.

It's only required for you to sign up once, and then after that, you don't have to have the program connect again. It's only needed if you want to have your settings saved in the "cloud". Which I sure as heck don't.

BazookaJoe · Nov 8, 2012

Radical_Edward said:
Oh really? I have Synapse 2.0 installed now.

It's only required for you to sign up once, and then after that, you don't have to have the program connect again. It's only needed if you want to have your settings saved in the "cloud". Which I sure as heck don't.

Why the should you have to "DO" anything at all?!

The fact that you have to do anything at all is already enough to invalidate the product. This is not an OPTION that you can chose here, this is enforced on all customers and installs, and that is flat out retarded. Do they just give you free mice and then depend on an ad-supported driver to pay for your fantastic new hardware? NO YOU PAY and you pay a lot! And after you pay for it it's STILL not yours, and you are still not allowed to use it without their PERMISSION? And even then if their permission server happens top be offline you can STILL get bent? even if you DO have the internet?

"Oh its OK if everything works like sh!t and tries to screw up your life - you can disable it by buggering around under the hood"

OR... Razer can go to hell and take their garbage with them.

When I think of how many times I supported them... promoted their products... RECOMMENDED THEM to friends... then they just turn around and screw me like this? I feel so filthy *cry* so used*sob*

.. This is Blizzard allover again... Boo Hoo Hoo *tears*

KainXS · Nov 8, 2012

basically with synapse, if you don't phone home the first time and activate your mouse you can't use the included mouse software period, after that you can use it as you please, it does not function with reduced options offline, but once you activate it your good.

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edward said it first

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Radical_Edward · Nov 8, 2012

BazookaJoe said:
Why the should you have to "DO" anything at all?!

The fact that you have to do anything at all is already enough to invalidate the product. This is not an OPTION that you can chose here, this is enforced on all customers and installs, and that is flat out retarded. Do they just give you free mice and then depend on an ad-supported driver to pay for your fantastic new hardware? NO YOU PAY and you pay a lot! And after you pay for it it's STILL not yours, and you are still not allowed to use it without their PERMISSION? And even then if their permission server happens top be offline you can STILL get bent? even if you DO have the internet?

"Oh its OK if everything works like sh!t and tries to screw up your life - you can disable it by buggering around under the hood"

OR... Razer can go to hell and take their garbage with them.

When I think of how many times I supported them... promoted their products... RECOMMENDED THEM to friends... then they just turn around and screw me like this? I feel so filthy *cry* so used*sob*

.. This is Blizzard allover again... Boo Hoo Hoo *tears*

Don't get me wrong, I completely agree that it's BS I had to do that. But for people like us, it's not that hard deal with.

Needless to say they won't be getting any of my money in the future, unless they change things accordingly. Which, if anyone's looked at their FB page recently, I hope they just might get the hint.

cdawall said:
So anybody for hose new thermaltakes mice? They don't phone home and store your settings in the mouse.

I like my Gigabyte mouse, works great. Nice simple software that's not even required to use the On the fly DPI switching. I just use it for the profiles.

GIGABYTE GM-M8000X Rubber Black 7 Buttons USB Wire...

:rockout:

phanbuey · Nov 8, 2012

thanks for the heads up... i saw this on my friend's mouse - he just ordered one of the naga mice, and his driver suite does this. :/

so stupid. I love my death adder, but that might be my last Razer product.

exodusprime1337 · Nov 8, 2012

Yeah i don't run the synapse software for my black widow ultimate, only because i don't need my gpu's stuck in 3dmode all the time.. i don't even install it for my keyboard anymore.. I get the fact that they want you to install it, but it doesn't impede your ability to use the mouse if it's a: not installed, or b: installed bu you aren't online.

Radical_Edward · Nov 8, 2012

exodusprime1337 said:
Yeah i don't run the synapse software for my black widow ultimate, only because i don't need my gpu's stuck in 3dmode all the time.. i don't even install it for my keyboard anymore.. I get the fact that they want you to install it, but it doesn't impede your ability to use the mouse if it's a: not installed, or b: installed bu you aren't online.

I haven't had that issue, but I also would have uninstalled Synapse at that point. :shadedshu

MatTheCat · Nov 9, 2012

Fkn hell!

I have a Razer Mamba mouse and have got to say that it is an excellent mouse but that will be the first and last Razer product that I ever own.

I can't imagine that Razer's shareholders are going to be happy about this once word gets around and the full financial impact is felt.

catnipkiller · Nov 9, 2012

5/6 of the razer mice i have bought no longer fully work they skip or the click is broken of them. I like the look of them but hate how long they last. Now i have another reason not to buy from them.

natr0n · Nov 11, 2012

cant you bypass and just install driver or use generic driver in windows without software ?

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Warning About New Razer Products

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

Radical_Edward

BazookaJoe

KainXS

Radical_Edward

phanbuey

exodusprime1337

Radical_Edward

MatTheCat

New Member

catnipkiller

natr0n

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