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Phenomenal: Phenom II X4 AGP rig

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I really like Asrock and their little nifty boards, they always cater to some specific needs: 2011 board with a floppy connector? check. 865G AGP based board released in 2012 for no apparent reason? check. A board drafted for 775 P4s that at its EOL supports Core 2 Quads? got you covered.

One of those curious boards is the AM2NF3-VSTA. It really shows a lot of Asrock's ingenuity: supports AM2, AM2+ and AM3 CPUs up to 125w, DDR2-1066 and AGP cards. Basically a dream machine for any AGP user with a "high-end" card (HD 3850/4670).

There's a caveat though: due to nVidia's shenanigans, the nforce3 chipset doesn't have a working multi-core GART driver for 64bit OSes; only single core CPUs work in that configuration and, because of that, the usefulness of using a modern OS is lost and if you stick to XP 32bit with a working multi-core GART then you can't take advantage of the 4 DDR2 slots. My intent is to research this issue and, hopefully, get to a working solution.

Will I be able to overcome all of that and become an internet hero :pimp: or will I cry frustration tears like all others before me? :banghead:



Targeted specs:

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/2548/77019892.jpghttp://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2925/shineget.jpg
Phenom II X4 965BE C3

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/8404/1205800426138065.jpghttp://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2925/shineget.jpg
HIS HD3850 IceQ3 Turbo AGP

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Asrock AM2NF3-VSTA

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/9533/pxtcddr2dc.jpghttp://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2925/shineget.jpg
4GB OCZ PC2-8500 Platinum LV (8GB if I can get 64bit to work)

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/427/buvnkfgcgkkgrhqnjcev10b.jpghttp://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2925/shineget.jpg
BFG Ageia Physx 100

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/5512/mainjm.jpghttp://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2925/shineget.jpg
Cooler Master Hyper N520

http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9967/en1822325132.jpghttp://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2925/shineget.jpg
Cooler Master Extreme Power 600

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/666/tc101bcase.jpghttp://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2925/shineget.jpg
Thermal Master TC-101 (a.k.a. the old CM Elite 250)

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9797/ev101100146.jpghttp://img862.imageshack.us/img862/2925/shineget.jpg
Cooler Master SickleFlow 120 Reds everywhere


Planned mods:
- Sleeve PSU cables
- Cut 2 120mm holes on the top of the case
- Turn the PSU up to make it draw air from the top
- Add red LED strips

Dude looks like a sweet rig. Just looking at it makes me want to configure one of my own again.
 
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I added fet sinks to my AM2NF3-VSTA and a few of them are still loose for some reason after a day of the 2 part glue curing, but so far they are running at a cool 50c under full load from an X3 8550 from what my IR thermometer gun is telling me. I'll leave it running for another day and make sure the sinks are solid before I dare mount it back in its case and put the 965BE back in.
 
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Those came out good. I'm embarrassed to look at my board and the sloppy arctic cooling sinks I glued on, but they work great and my VRM temps are like 55c max now @ 3.5GHz/1.35v on my 965BE.
 
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I was planning to change the capacitors but they are nichicon and Panasonic. I guess I'll test with them first.
 
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I've hit a wall it seems. The bios that shipped with the board is 2.50, going by the sticker, and it seems that it doesn't want to boot with the Sempron... although there's a weird thing: the PSU fires up as soon as I turn on the PSU's switch.

I removed the RAM and CPU but it still turns on. No beep codes. Short? I'm using it outside the case.




EDIT: Unplugged everything, including the CPU and the PSU fires up as soon as I plug the 20pin connector. What would cause this?
 
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Did you clear CMOS and everything? If Power ON after AC Loss is enabled, the board will instantly turn on when power is reapplied.
 
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yup, cleared CMOS before turning it on
 
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Darn, might be bricked unless the PSU is DOA. Not quite sure on that one.
 
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PSU is fine, used a tester on it before. mmm... I guess I'll have to buy a Sempron 3200 or something, I had thought it would at least boot... but I find the lack of beep codes disturbing.
 
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I'm pretty sure my Sempron 130 worked out of the box. I don't know why it wouldn't besides outdated AGESA code although I did originally run my board with a Phenom 9750 and may have done the BIOS upgrade to 3.40 then.
 
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Ok, I don't know what I did but the PSU is behaving normally now. Still no beep codes.

I guess I'll hunt for an AM2 CPU.
 
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I have an X3 8550 if you're interested.
 

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use a spare PSU, if that board has a power switch on it- could be cause, check the front panel button headers too.

Window installed:

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/4418/img0984y.jpg


I've hit a wall it seems. The bios that shipped with the board is 2.50, going by the sticker, and it seems that it doesn't want to boot with the Sempron... although there's a weird thing: the PSU fires up as soon as I turn on the PSU's switch.

I removed the RAM and CPU but it still turns on. No beep codes. Short? I'm using it outside the case.




EDIT: Unplugged everything, including the CPU and the PSU fires up as soon as I plug the 20pin connector. What would cause this?
 

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Man. You just never let the AGP die. I'm so glad to see this work-log. You have finished 2-3 systems and I haven't got close to 15%.

So you aren't using any Zotac PCI for Physx? Looks like Cooler Master is your sponsor for this project.


Ok, I don't know what I did but the PSU is behaving normally now. Still no beep codes.

I guess I'll hunt for an AM2 CPU.

When I got my board it has the P2.50 sticker on the BIOS chip. I don't remember the version it actually has, but an AM2 chip was needed to flash the bios. I still having the booting problem sometimes....but I'm not sure what is the cause. As for now I am fine I guess. I hope you don't experience the issues I had. I am just doubting the stability for this board with the Phenom II X4 chips. One small thing with this rig is you'll need to do the restart/shutdown manually.
 
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AGP ftw! A few years ago I wanted to go GPU folding on my AGP board so I dug up a AGP 3850. Never got it to work. Haven't used AGP since. I will be watching with interest!
 
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Just the chip? are you going to have to solder that on?
 
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Just the chip? are you going to have to solder that on?

It's a socketed PLCC package CMOS chip, pictured to the left of the PCI slots. :)
 

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It's a socketed PLCC package CMOS chip, pictured to the left of the PCI slots. :)

thank goodness, I hate how board makers have went back to soldering the chips.
 
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A small change. The case used will be this:

 
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The bottom of the frontal panel looks like a helmet somewhat and gave me an idea, plus it has a black interior and has more room.

I still have the other one so I can always swap again.
 
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Small update. Got an X-Fi XtremeMusic for the build.

 
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Got a pair of 160GB drives to install both W7 x64 and XP to get started with the testing.

 
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