OEM/Retail OS's

Cyvain · Feb 24, 2013

Basically I am confused as to whether its ok to use an OEM version for my own personal use on my PC system or if I have to use a retail version. Read so many different things on the subject I am confused.

Kaynar · Feb 24, 2013

When I build my own system i choose the OEM versions. Don't ask why, just check amazon and u'll see it is in brackets "this software is intended for system builders only"

newtekie1 · Feb 24, 2013

Cyvain said:
Basically I am confused as to whether its ok to use an OEM version for my own personal use on my PC system or if I have to use a retail version. Read so many different things on the subject I am confused.

It is perfectly fine to use the OEM version on your own personal computer. You just won't have any support for Microsoft, the OEM that install the software is supposed to support it. So if you install it, you become the OEM, and have to support it yourself. That that the lack of support is a big deal, these forums will have that covered probably better than Microsoft can. :laugh:

Also, know that you can't transfer your OEM copy to another computer if you ever switch to a new computer, legally you're supposed to buy a new copy. The retail version can be transferred to a different computer.

Solaris17 · Feb 24, 2013

newtekie1 said:
It is perfectly fine to use the OEM version on your own personal computer. You just won't have any support for Microsoft, the OEM that install the software is supposed to support it. So if you install it, you become the OEM, and have to support it yourself. That that the lack of support is a big deal, these forums will have that covered probably better than Microsoft can.

Also, know that you can't transfer your OEM copy to another computer if you ever switch to a new computer, legally you're supposed to buy a new copy. The retail version can be transferred to a different computer.

but if i changed my mobo and accidentally tried activqating it on the "new" system their isnt any kind of hidden hardware lock in 8?

Jetster · Feb 24, 2013

Solaris17 said:
but if i changed my mobo and accidentally tried activqating it on the "new" system their isnt any kind of hidden hardware lock in 8?

No, it will work. "Legally" you cant transfer but it will work. I have changed every part in my PC twice over and I have OEM. Activation always works without issue. OEM is the way to go. You just cant call MS for questions, you have to talk to yourself. Which I'm ok with :rolleyes:

Frick · Feb 24, 2013

Ms will support you if you pay.

And if the activation for some reason will not happen automagically you might be out of luck. If you have a retail key that for some reason is locked entirely you can get a new key. Not so much if it's OEM. It usually isnt a problem, but my time at ms tech support tought be that weird things happen sometimes that are not supposed to happen and if you have a retail key you have a bit more backup.

If you are unwilling to just crack the activation thing that is. And i kinda am so i tend try to stick to retail.

newtekie1 · Feb 24, 2013

Solaris17 said:
but if i changed my mobo and accidentally tried activqating it on the "new" system their isnt any kind of hidden hardware lock in 8?

Sort of, it might not activate via the online activation process, but you have to call to activate it.

Jetster said:
No, it will work. "Legally" you cant transfer but it will work. I have changed every part in my PC twice over and I have OEM. Activation always works without issue. OEM is the way to go. You just cant call MS for questions, you have to talk to yourself. Which I'm ok with

I have had it not activate via the online method, but calling to activate usually works. Though I did finally exhaust one of my Win7 keys to the point that they blacklisted it and wouldn't even activate it over the phone.

qubit · Feb 25, 2013

Yes, OEM is ok for your own personal system. I've normally used retail versions for one reason or another though, for example, TechNet.

Aquinus · Feb 25, 2013

newtekie1 said:
Sort of, it might not activate via the online activation process, but you have to call to activate it.

I have had it not activate via the online method, but calling to activate usually works. Though I did finally exhaust one of my Win7 keys to the point that they blacklisted it and wouldn't even activate it over the phone.

+1: I've known this process oh so well. More often than not you will need to talk to someone because the hardware is activated on different hardware. Occasionally you will get a key that will activate multiple times, but you have to remember that even though it works, M$ is watching the activations so if there are suddenly a lot of activations they'll invalidate the key.

Frick · Feb 25, 2013

Aquinus said:
+1: I've known this process oh so well. More often than not you will need to talk to someone because the hardware is activated on different hardware. Occasionally you will get a key that will activate multiple times, but you have to remember that even though it works, M$ is watching the activations so if there are suddenly a lot of activations they'll invalidate the key.

And if they are doing their job they wouldnt help you.

Aquinus · Feb 25, 2013

Frick said:
And if they are doing their job they wouldnt help you.

Sure, a lot of them fudge it, but I've had them reset it so it will activate on the new hardware. The catch is that it will stop working on the hardware that it was activated for. Back in the days of XP it was a lot more like that where they didn't care and just activated just about everything. IIRC MS's EULA lets you transfer keys but not use them on multiple machines for both retail and oem keys.

Frick · Feb 25, 2013

Aquinus said:
Sure, a lot of them fudge it, but I've had them reset it so it will activate on the new hardware. The catch is that it will stop working on the hardware that it was activated for. Back in the days of XP it was a lot more like that where they didn't care and just activated just about everything. IIRC M$'s EULA lets you transfer keys but not use them on multiple machines for both retail and oem keys.

You can't transfer OEM's. It is the point of them. Even if you change hardware because of a failure that key is "spent" (if the hardware ID change). if they helped you for any reason, no matter what crying story you came up with, they were not doing their jobs properly.

And I still maintain using the term "M$" should be considered trolling.

Aquinus · Feb 25, 2013

Frick said:
And I still maintain using the term "M$" should be considered trolling.

Corrected if you're really that sensitive about it.

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