Graphical Fragments when using Xfire

bpgt64 · Mar 5, 2013

I am debating returning one of my HD7970s, been getting alot of visual fragments when playing Dota 2 in Xfire. After perusing the boards it seems this game just really doesn't like XFire.

1. Are there alot of games that don't like Xfire. Is there a list somewhere?

2. Or is disabling the Crossfire option for games without a profile(as you can do in Catalyst) just a good idea?

erocker · Mar 5, 2013

I'd just get rid of a card. I'm running at your resolution with a single 7970 just fine. CrossFire just isn't very good.

Batou1986 · Mar 5, 2013

erocker said:
I'd just get rid of a card. I'm running at your resolution with a single 7970 just fine. CrossFire just isn't very good.

he's right its more of a hassle then anything

TheoneandonlyMrK · Mar 5, 2013

erocker said:
I'd just get rid of a card. I'm running at your resolution with a single 7970 just fine. CrossFire just isn't very good.

Why isn't it very good, I've not had a single issue all year. Id just accept this one game doesn't like xfire and disable it during that one game .
In general xfire can be iffy whe a new generation first comes out and upon a new games release .
I have 2x 5870/50 and they matured well with no issues these days.

Batou1986 · Mar 5, 2013

theoneandonlymrk said:
I have 2x 5870/50 and they matured well with no issues these days.

lucky you not the case in my experience and a few others that I know personally.

cadaveca · Mar 5, 2013

theoneandonlymrk said:
Why isn't it very good, I've not had a single issue all year. Id just accept this one game doesn't like xfire and disable it during that one game .
In general xfire can be iffy whe a new generation first comes out and upon a new games release .
I have 2x 5870/50 and they matured well with no issues these days.

Yeah, that's not a 7-series card. 5-series Crossfire and 6-series, yes, very mature, and works well. 7-series still needs driver adjustments, the whole fact that 7950 = 7970 when at same clockspeed says that perhaps 7970 isn't being fully utilized, and more performance is possible there, even.

I just tested 5850 Crossfire, and I see why you feel how you do.

6-series Crossfire, adding a card nearly gave 95% performance boost. 7-series, it's 60-90%.

Plus, there's that whole memory management thing. If you peruse OpenCL documentation, 7-series cards only allocate 2048 MB of 3072 MB, even. Makes me wonder if in DirectX, do they do the same, and are really only using 2 GB of ram?

Anyway, adding a second card just further complicates things right now. I will give AMD about 4 more months before I expect a really good driver. If they fail to deliver in that time frame, I'm leave AMD behind, and selling off all my cards.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Mar 5, 2013

cadaveca said:
Yeah, that's not a 7-series card. 5-series Crossfire and 6-series, yes, very mature, and works well. 7-series still needs driver adjustments, the whole fact that 7950 = 7970 when at same clockspeed says that perhaps 7970 isn't being fully utilized, and more performance is possible there, even.

I just tested 5850 Crossfire, and I see why you feel how you do.

6-series Crossfire, adding a card nearly gave 95% performance boost. 7-series, it's 60-90%.

Plus, there's that whole memory management thing. If you peruse OpenCL documentation, 7-series cards only allocate 2048 MB of 3072 MB, even. Makes me wonder if in DirectX, do they do the same, and are really only using 2 GB of ram?

Anyway, adding a second card just further complicates things right now. I will give AMD about 4 more months before I expect a really good driver. If they fail to deliver in that time frame, I'm leave AMD behind, and selling off all my cards.

Ill give you all of that , a reasonable and fair statement I have not been a xfire on new cards user since 3870s so im clearly blessed with the luck of being poor alas.

the54thvoid · Mar 5, 2013

bpgt64 said:
I am debating returning one of my HD7970s, been getting alot of visual fragments when playing Dota 2 in Xfire. After perusing the boards it seems this game just really doesn't like XFire.

1. Are there alot of games that don't like Xfire. Is there a list somewhere?

2. Or is disabling the Crossfire option for games without a profile(as you can do in Catalyst) just a good idea?

1) Sell both
2) Buy Titan
3) Start a TPU Titan Clubhouse.

TheMailMan78 · Mar 5, 2013

cadaveca said:
Yeah, that's not a 7-series card. 5-series Crossfire and 6-series, yes, very mature, and works well. 7-series still needs driver adjustments, the whole fact that 7950 = 7970 when at same clockspeed says that perhaps 7970 isn't being fully utilized, and more performance is possible there, even.

I just tested 5850 Crossfire, and I see why you feel how you do.

6-series Crossfire, adding a card nearly gave 95% performance boost. 7-series, it's 60-90%.

Plus, there's that whole memory management thing. If you peruse OpenCL documentation, 7-series cards only allocate 2048 MB of 3072 MB, even. Makes me wonder if in DirectX, do they do the same, and are really only using 2 GB of ram?

Anyway, adding a second card just further complicates things right now. I will give AMD about 4 more months before I expect a really good driver. If they fail to deliver in that time frame, I'm leave AMD behind, and selling off all my cards.

What were those 5850s getting as far as utilization?

dir_d · Mar 5, 2013

theoneandonlymrk said:
Why isn't it very good, I've not had a single issue all year. Id just accept this one game doesn't like xfire and disable it during that one game .
In general xfire can be iffy whe a new generation first comes out and upon a new games release .
I have 2x 5870/50 and they matured well with no issues these days.

Same here. xfire 5870s is awesome now

cadaveca · Mar 5, 2013

themailman78 said:
what were those 5850s getting as far as utilization?

70-85%. Not utilization, but in performance boost from second card. Utilization readings are crap in this regard, IMHO.

TheMailMan78 · Mar 5, 2013

cadaveca said:
70-85%. Not utilization, but in performance boost from second card. Utilization readings are crap in this regard, IMHO.

Wow that's not to bad at all! I know the 6xxx series was better but I never thought I would hear the 5xxx series hit 85%.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Mar 5, 2013

cadaveca said:
70-85%. Not utilization, but in performance boost from second card. Utilization readings are crap in this regard, IMHO.

Exactly how I feel, I usually get 30 - 40 % more fps or score on most occasions

cadaveca · Mar 5, 2013

theoneandonlymrk said:
Exactly how I feel, I usually get 30 - 40 % more fps or score on most occasions

you'd get more on Intel, just how it is.

TheMailMan78 · Mar 5, 2013

cadaveca said:
you'd get more on Intel, just how it is.

So going to a 670 was a better move than getting other 5850 you think? I mean I'm happy with it but now I'm wondering if I could have got better FPS in crossfire despite the issues.

crazyeyesreaper · Mar 5, 2013

With your line of work Mailman the 670 is far better lol.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Mar 5, 2013

TheMailMan78 said:
So going to a 670 was a better move than getting other 5850 you think? I mean I'm happy with it but now I'm wondering if I could have got better FPS in crossfire despite the issues.

Deff your getting my performance from one card and can buy two also

bpgt64 · Mar 5, 2013

Le sigh.

bpgt64 · Mar 6, 2013

I may just have a bad card, I removed the other card and now I am still getting odd graphical fragments...

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