linux pricing?!?!

Aquinus · Apr 16, 2013

This is why you use something like RHEL. This is the production database server I work at work that lives in a data center instead of in the office.

Code:

[jdoane@362998-db2 ~]$ uptime
 15:26:37 up 400 days,  1:08,  1 user,  load average: 1.66, 1.78, 1.67

It doesn't take much downtime before people start wondering what is going on.

Frick · Apr 16, 2013

Aquinus said:
This is why you use something like RHEL. This is the production database server I work at work that lives in a data center instead of in the office.

Code:

[jdoane@362998-db2 ~]$ uptime 15:26:37 up 400 days, 1:08, 1 user, load average: 1.66, 1.78, 1.67

It doesn't take much downtime before people start wondering what is going on.

Netware laughes at your puny server.

(not a production server I know but still)

Aquinus · Apr 17, 2013

Frick said:
Netware laughes at your puny server.

(not a production server I know but still)

Yes, that's because we switched servers 400 days ago and split our production system from one box to a app server and a db server.

Before that the server was up for over 600 days and would have kept going if we didn't need to upgrade.

Easy Rhino · Apr 17, 2013

Aquinus said:
Yes, that's because we switched servers 400 days ago and split our production system from one box to a app server and a db server.

Before that the server was up for over 600 days and would have kept going if we didn't need to upgrade.

i don't know why anyone would leave a prod server up for more than 2 year at a time. if you are running app servers and database servers you will need to update that software which inevitably means needing to update the OS to meet certification requirements. an OS upgrade means a reboot.

Aquinus · Apr 17, 2013

Easy Rhino said:
i don't know why anyone would leave a prod server up for more than 2 year at a time. if you are running app servers and database servers you will need to update that software which inevitably means needing to update the OS to meet certification requirements. an OS upgrade means a reboot.

Of all people, mister linux advocate should know that you don't fix something if it isn't broken.

Even more so when several hundred people use the application. Now Apache and PostgreSQL have been restarted a number of times and packages have been updated without a restart before. Only changes to the kernel or kernel modules generally require a restart.

I would rather my server be up for two years than have a Windows server that I have to restart once a month.

Easy Rhino · Apr 17, 2013

Aquinus said:
Of all people, mister linux advocate should know that you don't fix something if it isn't broken.

Yea right, try telling that to clients that want all of the new latest and greatest features that the software upgrades come with. Not to mention security updates, etc. In the real world, upgrading the software is a must and eventually to meet the requirements of the new software an OS upgrade is required which means a change in the kernel. That is just reality.

Pehla · Apr 17, 2013

guys i dont mean to be rude but u went so much away from topic..
start new thread and discus till u drop..

it became so boring to keep geting mails about htread that is finished if u ask me! thn for understanding..

Easy Rhino · Apr 17, 2013

Pehla said:
guys i dont mean to be rude but u went so much away from topic..
start new thread and discus till u drop..
it became so boring to keep geting mails about htread that is finished if u ask me! thn for understanding..

bah, this is on topic if you ask me. linux uptime , ie availability, has everything to do with pricing. you can't price out a system that goes down all the time. anyway, you can always change your email settings.

W1zzard · Apr 17, 2013

Easy Rhino said:
an OS upgrade means a reboot.

Ksplice can upgrade your kernel without reboot: http://www.ksplice.com/

While it's certainly nice I can't see me justifying the cost for it. Apparently they don't sell it anymore since Oracle bought them and integrated it as unique feature into their RHEL Linux clone (~2k license per year)

Easy Rhino · Apr 17, 2013

W1zzard said:
Ksplice can upgrade your kernel without reboot: http://www.ksplice.com/

While it's certainly nice I can't see me justifying the cost for it. Apparently they don't sell it anymore since Oracle bought them and integrated it as unique feature into their RHEL Linux clone (~2k license per year)

yea, i think it is part of their "unbreakable linux" suite.

newtekie1 · Apr 17, 2013

Easy Rhino said:
anyway, you can always change your email settings.

Or unsubscribe from this thread if you don't want to keep getting alerts about it but still want to get alerts about other threads.

douglatins · Apr 17, 2013

Red hat isnt supposed to be super duper secure?

Easy Rhino · Apr 17, 2013

douglatins said:
Red hat isnt supposed to be super duper secure?

who told you that??????????????

Disparia · Apr 17, 2013

Easy Rhino said:
Yea right, try telling that to clients that want all of the new latest and greatest features that the software upgrades come with. Not to mention security updates, etc. In the real world, upgrading the software is a must and eventually to meet the requirements of the new software an OS upgrade is required which means a change in the kernel. That is just reality.

I didn't need to hear from clients... I usually wanted the new features myself. That's what happens when your dba, programmer, and admin is the same person

BUT it was pretty easy in my case. All employees were in one timezone and the company only ran two shifts. I could remote in around 11:30pm and execute the upgrade I planned earlier that day.

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linux pricing?!?!

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