Intel Haswell Overclocking Clubhouse.

[cadaveca]

Looking good Dave!

Heres a link to the latest M6E beta BIOS posted by Shammy.
http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showpost.php?p=25478&postcount=34

Yeah, got it a few days ago. Getting closer...

 

[radrok]

Love RoG boards, as a test bench user I use almost all of the onboard switches.

Can't wait to see your review on the MVIE Dave, do you happen to have the MVIFormula?

 

[cadaveca]

Love RoG boards, as a test bench user I use almost all of the onboard switches.

Can't wait to see your review on the MVIE Dave, do you happen to have the MVIFormula?

No Formula, no Impact. Hope to receive both.


UP and running:

No OS yet, but still got time for minor ram clocks:

 

[springs113]

I think I am going to buy the Asrock OC formula and play around with it. I love my MSI but I always wanted to buy the Asrock, too bad it never came out release day.
Hey Dave did you do the memory testing as of yet, with different memory speeds and how Haswell performs with different speeds.

 

[cadaveca]

Hey Dave did you do the memory testing as of yet, with different memory speeds and how Haswell performs with different speeds.

:shadedshu

Just got OS installed, got to do drivers and board software, as well as testing apps, not going to be done any time soon. Lots of work benchmarking ahead for me.

 

[springs113]

:shadedshu

Just got OS installed, got to do drivers and board software, as well as testing apps, not going to be done any time soon. Lots of work benchmarking ahead for me.

Did you get ahold of the Asrock OC Formula?

 

[cadaveca]

Did you get ahold of the Asrock OC Formula?

Not as of yet, but I expect to, is in my schedule. I have Fatal1ty Professional and Z87E-ITX so far.

 

[DOM]

What a waste of a mb no ln2 Dave

 

[cadaveca]

What a waste of a mb no ln2 Dave

Start paying for it, and I'll gladly do it. Until then, it'll clock memory just fine on air.


You are right though. Very interested to see if the Hero and Gene compare to the Maximus for mem clocking, actually. If one of the other two are just as good, I may switch.

 

[DOM]

I was just busting your balls lol

I might get some juice for Friday waiting to see how the week goes first

And I still can't get mine to clock past 3000 was spoiled with the preset the asrock and rog mg have lol

And plus mine is just a 2400kit but max I gotten was 3065 on ivy but haven't tried on the new bios

Does it have a ln2 switch or mode on the mpower max ?

 

[cadaveca]

I was just busting your balls lol

I might get some juice for Friday waiting to see how the week goes first

And I still can't get mine to clock past 3000 was spoiled with the preset the asrock and rog mg have lol

And plus mine is just a 2400kit but max I gotten was 3065 on ivy but haven't tried on the new bios

Does it have a ln2 switch or mode on the mpower max ?

I've been over 3000, easy, that was with stock settings and voltage. Gotta play with subtimings and tWCL, maybe, haven't fired the Hero up yet. I don't use memory profiles, they never seem to work for me. Had the same on the GRYPHON, no profiles, 125 bclk with 2933 multi and more with upping the bus is no problem there.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I've been over 3000, easy, that was with stock settings and voltage. Gotta play with subtimings and tWCL, maybe, haven't fired the Hero up yet. I don't use memory profiles, they never seem to work for me. Had the same on the GRYPHON, no profiles, 125 bclk with 2933 multi and more with upping the bus is no problem there.

Until I see your reviews on the Hero and the X-OC, I will not get anything Haswell.

 

[DOM]

I've been over 3000, easy, that was with stock settings and voltage. Gotta play with subtimings and tWCL, maybe, haven't fired the Hero up yet. I don't use memory profiles, they never seem to work for me. Had the same on the GRYPHON, no profiles, 125 bclk with 2933 multi and more with upping the bus is no problem there.

I'm lazy

But played with superpi 32m today and uncore

 

[TheHunter]

I found something when i Oc'ed ring bus L3 cache last night, temps would jump to crazy 82-88C in Aida64 stress test @ 44x and at auto ring voltage. Auto set to 1.28v (a lot), for example @ 42x set to 1.18v and got max 72C. I've now backed down to 42x and manually set to 1.15v.

I think this is the only thing that makes these cpus so hot., to high cpu ring L3 cache multi & voltage, especially its voltage.



I even managed to lower my cpuv a bit, now im at 1.14v for 4.4ghz and L3 ring at 42x 1.15v.

 

[TheHunter]

Ok I experimented with OC a bit on L308B202

Ring bus L3 multi at 42x and 1.15v
4.4Ghz ~1.140v
4.5Ghz ~1.165v
4.6Ghz ~1.210v
4.7Ghz ~1.260v (my limit ~80C on avg in Aida64stress)


Anything more and I need better cooling, ie. push - pull fans at H90, atm only push fan at lower rpm.

4.4Ghz Cinebench11.5: 9.69
4.5Ghz Cinebench11.5: 9.89
4.6Ghz Cinebench11.5: 10.06

I forgot to test 4.7ghz ,



I think i'll settle with max 4.5ghz for now, its summer here and crazy hot with ambient 31C.

 

[PolRoger]

@TheHunter:
I've also noticed the same thing... and we are both running on a Z-87 Deluxe... CPU cache voltages can get bumped up quite a lot when running higher multi/uncore/dram speeds... I think I've seen up to ~1.4v being applied under some settings. I also prefer now to set it manually but I find it interesting to sometimes check and see what auto "rules" will default to for a particular overclock.

@cadaveca:
Do you know what the difference is between CPU Analog and Digital I/O? I wonder what the relationship is between the two settings? I guess these Haswell voltages correspond to Sandy/Ivy's old unified VccIO voltage? VTT?

 

[cadaveca]

Did you get ahold of the Asrock OC Formula?

Arrived this morning:

@cadaveca:
Do you know what the difference is between CPU Analog and Digital I/O? I wonder what the relationship is between the two settings? I guess these Haswell voltages correspond to Sandy/Ivy's old unified VccIO voltage? VTT?

Yeah, is VTT broken down to individual parts. Before was PLL/core and VTT/VCCSA, now is VCCin/vCore/vCache(Ring) and VCCSA/DIO/AIO

 

[Womper]

I ran Aida64 at the same settings PolRoger used a couple pages back. It's probably the best comparison I can get between my cooler and an AIO cooler, although he's running faster memory (which presumably increases temps some). I'm probably looking at a 10-15C improvement if I switch from my hsf to the h220.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

arrived this morning:

http://img.techpowerup.org/130617/dscf9393.jpg



yeah, is vtt broken down to individual parts. Before was pll/core and vtt/vccsa, now is vccin/vcore/vcache(ring) and vccsa/dio/aio

:d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d

 

[springs113]

Arrived this morning:

http://img.techpowerup.org/130617/DSCF9393.jpg



Yeah, is VTT broken down to individual parts. Before was PLL/core and VTT/VCCSA, now is VCCin/vCore/vCache(Ring) and VCCSA/DIO/AIO

is that my board....nice

 

[Jstn7477]

Arrived this morning:

http://img.techpowerup.org/130617/DSCF9393.jpg



Yeah, is VTT broken down to individual parts. Before was PLL/core and VTT/VCCSA, now is VCCin/vCore/vCache(Ring) and VCCSA/DIO/AIO

I'm interested to see what you think about the Extreme6 (I have the vanilla one of course). Just be warned, keep your speakers turned off unless you want to be surprised by space sounds (makes so much sense) at 100% volume unless other board makers are tacking on sounds in their UEFI as well. You're probably also going to hate how the UEFI lacks a lot of monitoring features and I find that v1.40 freezes up about half the times I go in to change my overclock. Other than that, it's an alright board IMO.

 

[HammerON]

Sorry if this has already been posted, but stasio has a CPU-Z beta that correctly shows Vcore readings. Looks like DOM has been using it:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2906678&postcount=185

 

[DOM]

There's a 1.64.3 out there also to lazy to Google it haha

Ready to go home and go to sleep 2hrs to go

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Found a 4770k with the same batch number as PolRoger's .999 initial voltage chip on Ebay I might snag.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-...CPU-/151065500146?pt=CPUs&hash=item232c3499f2

 

[brandonwh64]

Found a 4770k with the same batch number as PolRoger's .999 initial voltage chip on Ebay I might snag.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-...CPU-/151065500146?pt=CPUs&hash=item232c3499f2

Might as well phenom if you are going to get one