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My post was as neutral sounding and as friendly as I could make it and I was blockedfrom page interaction.
 
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My post was as neutral sounding and as friendly as I could make it and I was blockedfrom page interaction.

Me too. I can't write anything even if I "like" his page.

So don't get your hopes high Rcoon about re-posting the link to this thread if he deletes it! :laugh:
 

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hmm. i didnt join this test. thank god, but that doesnt mean i am not mad at what happed to the rest of my tpu mates.

in anycase....

diamod = hardest natrual stubstance

metal = pretty soft. so scratches and dents should be common?
 

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he's changed privacy settings on FB page. Therefore i am @ tagging IC DIAMOND on my own wall posts and reposting throughout the day, with pics and links to the original thread.
 
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Me too. I can't write anything even if I "like" his page.

So don't get your hopes high Rcoon about re-posting the link to this thread if he deletes it! :laugh:

I can make new accounts. I can make as many AOL mail accounts as I like = unlimited facebook accounts.
 
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I had an independent analysis done on the photos posted on the IC Diamond Giveaway of alleged damage caused by IC Diamond by the forum members

TRWOV
SonDa5
natr0n

On the following pages

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170121&page=20



http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170121&page=12

The third Party report can be found here

http://innovationcooling.com/image/Innovationcoolingreport.pdf


This was a particularly nasty bit of business doctoring photos to denigrate and slander our product and company.

This was most likely an orchestrated event and not an idle adolescent bid for attention and as such and due to the seriousness of the malicious intent they should be banned permanently from the website. I have already identified some connections between a couple of the users and believe other deeper connections will follow soon on a number of forum members.

The company that did the analysis can be found here

http://www.fmsconsultation.com/Image.html

Does not matter what the users say - Fact: each Picture contains an EXIF file about the camera. It can contain GPS Data as to where the picture was taken, model of camera, and what software was used to edit the picture plus a lot more information.

EXIF data has a long history of acceptable evidence in numerous court cases.

Threats are hollow, evidence is clear - I recently sued 8 companies in 5 years all settled in my favour, it was quite lucrative. I'll have to check and see what the options are in CA.

Great question, I do not know if they were compensated or not, do you? Look at the ELA and the DCT and EXIF data and then ask them - your speculation is as good as anybody's

that's good, if you have the raw images still available we can make arrangement for third party independent analysis, only way to prove they are not manipulated.

Of course it can -but the data was taken from the pictures posted on then forum which is out of my hands and under control of the people that generated them. Third party professional analysis was performed here which adheres to a chain of custody

http://www.fmsconsultation.com/Image.html

http://innovationcooling.com/image/Innovationcoolingreport.pdf

Must have hit a nerve attacking the messenger because you do not like the message - read the report and we can debate the ELA and DCT analysis on local area manipulation.

I gave TRWOV the contact info BTW on where to send his raw images for analysis

Third party independent analysis - data does not lie

http://innovationcooling.com/image/Innovationcoolingreport.pdf

Dismissial was because we settled out of court - you missed Apple btw


Dct, ELA show areas of local manipulation Combined with EXIF makes a strong case

http://innovationcooling.com/image/Innovationcoolingreport.pdf

Every thing but the kitchen sink perhaps you guys should read up on photo forensics then you could Talk intelligently about the subject


http://fotoforensics.com/img/books-edited.jpghttp://fotoforensics.com/img/books-edited-ela.png

The resaved image was digitally modified: books were copied and a toy dinosaur was added. ELA clearly shows the modified areas as having higher ELA values.

So compare result against Report ELA and DCT

http://innovationcooling.com/image/Innovationcoolingreport.pdf

Yes, but does not show areas of local manipulation - study up on it

Yes but re-compressing an image does not add local area manipulation as on these examples and This software is designed to identify areas of manipulation even on photos that have been multiply compressed

http://www.fmsconsultation.com/FIAS_Software.html

http://innovationcooling.com/image/Innovationcoolingreport.pdf

Yes but re-compressing an image does not add local area manipulation as on these examples and This software is designed to identify areas of manipulation even on photos that have been multiply compressed

http://www.fmsconsultation.com/FIAS_Software.html

http://innovationcooling.com/image/Innovationcoolingreport.pdf

Your EXIF data, your camera, your picture, your ELA your DCT. -independent analysis by third party professionals

Send your Raw photo into a third party for analysis to prove that it is real otherwise it is as it stands

Obviously magnification in lenses has nothing to do with anything as it does not explain the local area of manipulation.

This picture was an odd one so not surprised you selected it as the area of manipulation was not where the damage was alleged to have occurred which actually shows nothing perhaps a grease smear?- and one can only speculate as to reason it was done.

Otherwise the magnification argument is silly as the DCT's and the ELA's only appear in the alleged damaged areas and no where else and is a marker for local area manipulation

In any event those in the report that would like to have the original raw images provided to an independent third party can email The address in the report

Just because you dig up your dead grandmother put a couple of bullets in her and post her bullet ridden corpse on a forum as proof I killed her does not mean that's what happened.

Some conditions do apply to "evidence"

I'm in the business of preserving evidence, simply because you deleted legitimate postings on your Facebook page and I want the world to experience your douchebaggery if you decide to come to TPU and edit some shit.

Of course, you'll probably just hire some "independent third-party expert" to refute the quoted posts above.

Good day, sir!
 
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I say fight fire with fire. Ban him here. Also he for some weird reason didn't delete my post. He must have missed it. :toast:.
 

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DDoS the innovationcooling website! take that trash down!
 
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DDoS the innovationcooling website! take that trash down!

I have a few hundred computers at my disposal this summer due to kids summer holidays. Maybe.
 
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Be careful saying things like that, you know how the british gov is about these kind of things, just saying ok :)

PRISM will get me V& :laugh:
I'll just be a douche on his FB with only 207 likes for now.
 

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i have a theory...

diamond particles is really hard, and is used as abrasives in industrial applications.
one such example is this being sold on alibaba
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/733590813/industrial_diamond_dust.html?s=p
i know this because i have studied machining and machine tool designs as a part of my degree in mechanical engg.

now i do not know about the structure of diamond particles used in this particulat thermal paste.
As far as i know, based on the chemical atomic structure of diamond, the only ways it can exist, is always crystalline, i.e. with sharp edges.

so we are at this point where.. they are basically putting abrasive particles in your thermal compound. i may be wrong, as i have little clue on artificial diamond manufacturing processes, and there might be some special way to get non abrasive diamond particles. (well, i did a google check and it doesnt produce relevant results)

this would explain the scratches formed on the surfaces.

now to wards the pitting.
i have analyzed the pictures, and most of the cases the pitting seems to have formed on the lower side of the CPU(assuming most people use desktop standing PCs).

my theory is that... after the heatsink has been mounted and set up right, the diamond particles being heavier than the suspension medium, have a tendency to fall under gravity.

this can be tested by applying a small anount of the stuff on an acrylic plate, then putting another one on top, with a small gap between. if my hypothesis is correct the diamond dust will reach the bottom faster and hence tend to be concentrated towards the bottom a bit more.


now the pitting action.

the pitting action is actually a more advanced form of the previous problem.

we all know that the temp cycles go about 30C difference in between noload and loaded conditions.

this produces tiny deformations in the thin IHS of CPUs and in heatsinks. What i mean is, that due to expansion and contraction, the IHS and surfaces will act like a diaphragm and this will sort of provide a pumping action, agitating the particles and further facilitating the previous problem.

now because of any microscopic imperfection in the surface or because of contamination, a small diamond particle might get lodged in a place. now this diamond particle will attract the other atoms on other diamond particles and slowly a large mass will be gathered.

now this will be pressured by repeated movements of the diaphragm action which may result in the pitting action.

also another theory is its just abrasion from movement. like in a sand blaster.
there is already movement from the diaphragm action. maybe it was making distinct same currents everytime? it was eroding like a river :)
 
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now because of any microscopic imperfection in the surface or because of contamination, a small diamond particle might get lodged in a place. now this diamond particle will attract the other atoms on other diamond particles and slowly a large mass will be gathered.

now this will be pressured by repeated movements of the diaphragm action which may result in the pitting action.

That's a good guess but none of us found a big chunk of diamond in the pit. :confused:
 

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its not a chunk, its a cluster of particles.

also another theory is its just abrasion from movement. like in a sand blaster.
there is already movement from the diaphragm action. maybe it was making distinct same currents everytime? it was eroding like a river :)
 
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I say fight fire with fire. Ban him here. Also he for some weird reason didn't delete my post. He must have missed it. :toast:.

DDoS the innovationcooling website! take that trash down!

I posted about how this guy is throwing a baby fit and how he is on a baby throwing a tantrum video. I suggest you do so as well. He he!
 

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I posted about how this guy is throwing a baby fit and how he is on a baby throwing a tantrum video. I suggest you do so as well. He he!

bet he is like this now
 
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LOL at the FB shizz...... have ya ever seen those FB pages that are an attack on another...... :rolleyes:

ANTI-IC.... STOP THE TYRANT IC..... JUSTICE AGAINST IC....
 

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This man can't even take criticism.
I wonder what he's doing running a business if he goes into panic mode at the first signs of feedback.

He's just removed all the posts which some TPU members had made explaining what happened to them when they used IC Diamond. But obviously he didn't delete his original where he said that TPU members were orchestratedly attacking him and photoshopping photos...

What a coward.

he has deleted my comments off the facebook page, and banned me from posting there.

The man truly is a coward.
 
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Just proves, he knows he was wrong and wont come clean as he will lose face now.
 
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I think he finally figured out this is not good for PR. This is why companies have proper PR staff. They can handle all this stuff in a professional manor. CEOs are normally a bit wonky and are supposed to be shielded from public interaction.
 

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maybe its because i posted links to at least 5 forums where people have had problems including voided warranties because his diamond paste polished away CPU serial numbers....
 
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maybe its because i posted links to at least 5 forums where people have had problems including voided warranties because his diamond paste polished away CPU serial numbers....

We're all amongst friends :p Please do post the links here!
 

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We're all amongst friends :p Please do post the links here!

they were copied from someone elses post in the longer thread.
 

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Well, He might be able to control his FB page but he cant control the rest of the internet.

If there are any bloggers - blog about this situation on your sites, even if its not tech related. tweeters tweet about it, create an Anti-IC FB group. above all, go to other forums and make sure they know about the bad paste and other forums/web communities that have also suffered as a result of taking part in this TIM test.

screenshot and upload all of his responses. We might not be able to comment on his FB but we can do elsewhere and people will ask questions when they google up so many hits about these tests that went so wrong.

He wants to be an asshole? then lets show the rest of the internet/world what an asshole he really is.
 

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he has deleted my comments off the facebook page, and banned me from posting there.

The man truly is a coward.

same... and i dont even have any vested personal interest in this, other than the fact he isnt conducting himself like a proper individual
 
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