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Add Demon's Souls to the list please, it was one of the few "hard" games which stood out during the time when people were busy dumbing down games. It is still very satisfying to play.
 
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Add Demon's Souls to the list please, it was one of the few "hard" games which stood out during the time when people were busy dumbing down games. It is still very satisfying to play.

How is the difficulty of Demon's Souls/Dark Souls compared to a game like Ninja Gaiden Black?
 
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My favorite game ever is Driver 2...but not the best game ever. Best game I could think of as already mentioned would probably be GTA...the series.
 
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new age games?????? Like in new age cults?
If that, any RPG! }:p
 

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How is the difficulty of Demon's Souls/Dark Souls compared to a game like Ninja Gaiden Black?

Probably the same. They are both hard, but there are some key differences.

In Dark Souls you need more strategy, and also you need to have tremendous patience and execution. You need to pay attention to how the game works, stats, items, effects, it's an open-world RPG. Once you master how the game works, you master the game.

In Ninja Gaiden, while still needing strategy, patience and execution although not that much compared to DS, the most important thing you need is mad skills. reflexes and agility in using the controller. Once you master your reflexes and agility, you master the game.

imo I would probably say Dark Souls, It's more frustrating for me, died too many times from being too fast, or being too slow, or being too dumb or too smart, you just need to perfect it, You need to master everything in order to beat it,

Also there's a big penalty on dying, you lose all your souls(aka money) if you die again before you can retrieve them by going back to the place you died. also if you play multiplayer, it gets much real harder. Anyone can invade you and destroy your game in an instant at almost any point of your game. have a perfect plan for this part of the map? yey someone invades you and pwns your sorry little ass. Some people even turn off their console internet just to play DS peacefully.

The game is one big map too, and one big continuous event, one save only and it autosaves every x minutes, if you lets say accidentally kill an NPC 4 hours into the game, the game autosaves and that NPC is dead forever until you restart a new game
 
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How is the difficulty of Demon's Souls/Dark Souls compared to a game like Ninja Gaiden Black?

Different kind of hard. Ninja Gaiden Black focuses on "if you cant do it, try until you master", whereas Demon's Souls makes you fear death itself.
 

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To play in the graveyard with the rest of you ghouls...

I gotta +1 to "Elite" as probably the best out there. Closer to "open world" than any other game of its time or for several years to come. Really pissed off the publishers too, as they wanted an arcade mentality of "3 lives" or some such. So many games after it owe so much to that game.
Doom was groundbreaking, as was Zork... Altho for me personally, TES:The Arena was more influential than Zork. WoW was obviously a trend-setter, and I spent many many hours in that world. Also got me my long-time fiancee :), so that's a bonus :).

Top 3 would have to be Elite, Doom, and TES (pick any one but Daggerfall :) ). We really ought to turn this into a poll if we're gonna res the damn thread :)
 
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Different kind of hard. Ninja Gaiden Black focuses on "if you cant do it, try until you master", whereas Demon's Souls makes you fear death itself.

I love the souls franchise. They are wonderful games that provide great challenges for gamers but also satisfy our appetite for good storytelling! The story in Dark Souls is one you need to dig for but even discovering minor hints through item descriptions about what happened to certain characters is extremely rewarding. If you like Dark Souls and want to know more about the lore, check out EpicNameBro's youtube channel. He has some fantastic lore videos! :toast:
 
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Different kind of hard. Ninja Gaiden Black focuses on "if you cant do it, try until you master", whereas Demon's Souls makes you fear death itself.

Dunno why everyone says Ninja Gaiden Black was hard. It was about as difficult an any simple 8-bit game back in the day. I beat it front and back without issue. If you wanna know a hard game fire up Ninja Gaiden on the NES or Blaster Master on the NES.......or the hellish Festers Quest. You will never know such pain and realize ALL games today are to F#$KING EASY.





KILL IT WITH FIRE!
 
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How are you measuring the results, based on how the game is perceived today, or based on how it was received when it was released?
 
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Like techtard also mentioned: System Shock 2!

For me personally its still by far the most immersive game i've played.
 

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There is no best game ever. They all have there fan base each to his/her own. The best is very subjective at best...
 
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There is no best game ever. They all have there fan base each to his/her own. The best is very subjective at best...

Totally agree! Its nice to see what people regard as their best game, though.
 

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How are you measuring the results, based on how the game is perceived today, or based on how it was received when it was released?

i don't think he is making a list. afterall this thread is 7 years old.
 
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Dunno why everyone says Ninja Gaiden Black was hard. It was about as difficult an any simple 8-bit game back in the day. I beat it front and back without issue.

You obviously didn't try any of the special missions on Master Ninja difficulty...

The game wasn't tough on Normal or even Hard difficulty, but Master Ninja was fairly difficult and some of the missions on Master Ninja are incredibly hard.
 

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You obviously didn't try any of the special missions on Master Ninja difficulty...

The game wasn't tough on Normal or even Hard difficulty, but Master Ninja was fairly difficult and some of the missions on Master Ninja are incredibly hard.

Like I said I beat it up and down. It wasn't anywhere NEAR the original NES version.
 

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Dunno why everyone says Ninja Gaiden Black was hard. It was about as difficult an any simple 8-bit game back in the day. I beat it front and back without issue. If you wanna know a hard game fire up Ninja Gaiden on the NES or Blaster Master on the NES.......or the hellish Festers Quest. You will never know such pain and realize ALL games today are to F#$KING EASY.

http://www.joystickdivision.com/festers quest.jpg
http://ninjagaiden.neoseeker.com/w/i/ninjagaiden/3/3d/Ninja_gaiden_nes.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/99/Blaster_Master_boxart.jpg

KILL IT WITH FIRE!

I actually got to the final boss in IWBTG. Should try that again actually..

There is no best game ever. They all have there fan base each to his/her own. The best is very subjective at best...

Deus Ex disagree!
 
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Demon souls,Dark souls was most challenging games for me,so for me they are definetly in TOP10 of my list.
 

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i think we all know that the best game of all time is pong. then pacman, then mario brothers and then wolfenstein.
 

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Pong was the stuff, not too sure about the PacMan, I'm a huge anti-platformer, so MB is out, but I'll give you Wolfenstein :)
 
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