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Yes sir, I believe that either the 670 or a 7950/70 would be a great card to get if you can locate one used. This would allow you to start saving when newer cards release.
 
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Yes sir, I'm sorry about that.

I'm not a fanboy or anything like that, all I'm saying is when someone is asking for advice, you have to stir them to price/performance ratio. Again, 7950 is the better card overall in terms of price, vram, wider bit(384), fps is about even, and of course will pull ahead with overclocking potential, not to mention the 3 free game that you can easily sell to fleabay for more money. I say it's the best deal right now for the op....
 

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@Raptorpowa That 7950 card you linked on this forum for 180$ or something is discontinued.. idk why, but isn't that saying something? There are so many 7950 cards, can you specify the best price/performance 7950 on the market today? vs the MSI GTX 760 Which I plan to get in the future. Idc about the GTX 670 because its $300+.
 
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Clearly, 7950 is the better card here overall. You could upgrade to one if you want, and Vram now a days is important because 1080p is old. 1440p is new...By the way, how are those 5850 treating ya. :p

I advice people to go for price/perf ratio, so they can save money and not waste it to something irrelevant like the gtx 670.

1080p isn't that high of a resolution these days either. If you knew anything about computing you'd know that memory is constantly being borrowed from the main memory and HDD. excessively large VRAM capacity isn't a necessity. Yes in certain situations and/or specific games and/or and/or specific settings and/or specific resolutions excessive VRAM capacities will definitely improve performance, but if the video card is rubbish no amount of VRAM would help it. Otherwise the 4GB GT 630 would be the top #3 fastest card :)

My crossfire 5850 is serving me well, after all these years its as fast as a lot of midrange cards today. Good thing I made this purchase on research and not impulse :)


Yes sir, I'm sorry about that.

I'm not a fanboy or anything like that, all I'm saying is when someone is asking for advice, you have to stir them to price/performance ratio. Again, 7950 is the better card overall in terms of price, vram, wider bit(384), fps is about even



Really? Now you are saying price/performance. Earlier, in the other thread you said the 7950 was faster full stop. Seems like you're back tracking.



. As you can see 7950 can match a 670 or even a 680
You might want to research that. Most 7950 are faster than 670 and 680 as well.

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If you knew anything about computing you'd know that memory is constantly being borrowed from the main memory and HDD. excessively large VRAM capacity isn't a necessity. [...]

If you knew anything about computing you'd know that that is exactly what you want to avoid at all cost: borrowing from system memory (while systems needs it), and hdd (sloooow and prone to hiccup)... the more dedicated VRAM on the card next to the gpu the better.
HD7950 being the best option, yet i understand from first post which has been edited that OP chose GF 760.... :wtf:
 
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If you knew anything about computing you'd know that that is exactly what you want to avoid at all cost: borrowing from system memory (while systems needs it), and hdd (sloooow and prone to hiccup)... the more dedicated VRAM on the card next to the gpu the better.


I never said borrowing was ideal. I said the system will borrow from the HDD and RAM. I was merely point out a technological fact.

Obviously the more VRAM the better hypothetical and idealistically, but if the video card is crap an abundance of VRAM won't make it magically better.

Hence why the 4GB GT 630 still underperforms.

HD7950 being the best option, yet i understand from first post which has been edited that OP chose GF 760.... :wtf:


How is the HD 7950 the better option? Its 20% slower on TPUs own review and up to 30% slower on Hard OCP review.

If you feel the GTX 760 is slower please provide a review which says so.
 
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@blindnero I'm narrowing my decision on MSI GTX N760 because of the nice OC features it has comparing it to any AMD card, where you have to manually have a fixed OC. Yes it has more vram; 1GB more, but I was informed that it doesn't make a noticeable difference playing on 1080p.

My other concern here is OC and reliability of the cards, and MSI GTX N760 wins comparing it to any 7950.

Also, anyone who is reading this should do everyone a big favor and show us which 7950 card you think is the best on market. I would like to see the reviews of previous owners and see how well the purchase turned out for them.
 
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1. I'm narrowing my decision on MSI GTX N760 because of the nice OC features it has comparing it to any AMD card,

where you have to manually have a fixed OC. Yes it has more vram; 1GB more, but I was informed that it doesn't make a noticeable difference playing on 1080p.

2. My other concern here is OC and reliability of the cards, and MSI GTX N760 wins comparing it to any 7950.

Also, anyone who is reading this should do everyone a big favor and show us which 7950 card you think is the best on market. I would like to see the reviews of previous owners and see how well the purchase turned out for them.

1. WRONG WRONG WRONG. AMD have one thing that Nvidia cards doesnt, and that is REAL UNLOCKED VOLTAGE CONTROL. Most crucial thing there is for OCing ANY component. Dont speak.

2. Lol you got that conclusion from MSIs abundant advertising? If you believe it makes your card any better ill have to go cry my self to sleep. "MILITARY COMPONENTS WE LITERALLY BROKE DOWN A JET AND MADE GPUS OUT OF THEM". AMD cards from MSI have the same ridiculous advertising too you know?
 
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@blindnero I'm narrowing my decision on MSI GTX N760 because of the nice OC features it has comparing it to any AMD card, where you have to manually have a fixed OC. Yes it has more vram; 1GB more, but I was informed that it doesn't make a noticeable difference playing on 1080p.

My other concern here is OC and reliability of the cards, and MSI GTX N760 wins comparing it to any 7950.

Also, anyone who is reading this should do everyone a big favor and show us which 7950 card you think is the best on market. I would like to see the reviews of previous owners and see how well the purchase turned out for them.

But even if the 7950 has better stability when overclocked its already at a performance handicap. OC won't close the gap. Then when you overclock the GTX 760 that gap will widen again.


Eurogamer.net Review:
The GTX 760 offers a small boost over the stock HD 7950, while the GTX 670 and the overclocked HD 7950 duke it out for top dog honours.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-review



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Rangerjr1, stop shouting @ the OP. It isn't professional.
 
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But even if the 7950 has better stability when overclocked its already at a performance handicap. OC won't close the gap. Then when you overclock the GTX 760 that gap will widen again.


Eurogamer.net Review:


http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-review
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So it takes an overclocked 7950 to duke it out with a stock GTX 670. Hmm


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Rangerjr1, stop shouting @ the OP. It isn't professional.

Its funny how you would say things i do is not professional, because you're the one claiming that the 760 is faster than a 7950. And yea ofcourse the 7950 has to be oced, it doesnt OC by itself like the 670-760 can and still have the privilege to call it "stock"
 
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Its funny how you would say things i do is not professional, because you're the one claiming that the 760 is faster than a 7950. And yea ofcourse the 7950 has to be oced, it doesnt OC by itself like the 670-760 can and still have the privilege to call it "stock"

I'm not claiming it faster. eurogamer.net is :)


Results place the GTX 760 as a quality performer for its price point. It comfortably beats our vanilla HD 7950 at the benchmarks which most accurately reflect gameplay - BioShock and Tomb Raider - and battles it very closely on the bandwidth-sucking monsters like Hitman: Absolution and the Metro games.


Next up, we re-run the tests, moving up to the increasingly popular 2560x1440 resolution. Nvidia's press material appears to position the GTX 760 as the ultimate price vs. performance product for the most popular gaming resolution - 1920x1080 or its 16:10 equivalent

both the HD 7950 and the GTX 670 acquit themselves well here and as the GTX 760 restores the 256-bit GDDR5 memory bus, bandwidth certainly shouldn't be a problem.

GTX 760 is different beast entirely - it punches above its weight in the price/performance departments, effectively offering a GTX 670 experience for GTX 660 Ti money. After working with the card for a few days, we were fully expecting a price point to compete with the vanilla HD 7950, but instead Nvidia has comprehensively beaten it.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-nvidia-geforce-gtx-760-review
 
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WRONG WRONG WRONG. AMD have one thing that Nvidia cards doesnt, and that is REAL UNLOCKED VOLTAGE CONTROL. Most crucial thing there is for OCing ANY component. Dont speak.

Mister Ranger Junior Number One. You somehow seem hurt by other people deciding what hardware to buy for themselves. That is if you don't like their decision. It touches you so much, that you need to express it with all caps and calling wrong three times. Whatever you think is wrong in this case, it's not it - something is wrong with you.
 
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Review on this website also clearly shows the 760 to be ahead of the 7950 by about 9%. With both cards moderately overclocked, they trade blows.

Buy whatever has the best price/warranty/free bundle.
 
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Mister Ranger Junior Number One. You somehow seem hurt by other people deciding what hardware to buy for themselves. That is if you don't like their decision. It touches you so much, that you need to express it with all caps and calling wrong three times. Whatever you think is wrong in this case, it's not it - something is wrong with you.

No. Its the fact that he makes ridiculous claims.

Read my previous posts and you'll know what im talking about.

And at that point its 300Mhz faster on the core than the 7950. How about we clock the 7950 the same and then compare?
 
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How about we clock the 7950 the same and then compare?

That's the whole point - he likes the fact he doesn't have to. Boost 2.0 does it just fine for him.
 

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Review on this website also clearly shows the 760 to be ahead of the 7950 by about 9%. With both cards moderately overclocked, they trade blows.

Buy whatever has the best price/warranty/free bundle.

OP. Use this advice. Most logical of all the posts on this thread.
 
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That's the whole point - he likes the fact he doesn't have to. Boost 2.0 does it just fine for him.

Thats FINE but comparing benchmarks where the Nvidia gpus are oced and still called stock for some reason is ridiculous.
 
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This thread is just going round and round. They are both great cards. I think we can all agree ether one will blow his mind after the 6750 he has now
 
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Thats FINE but comparing benchmarks where the Nvidia gpus are oced and still called stock for some reason is ridiculous.

Maybe if AMD implemented a boost feature...

It's a moot argument. Nvidia's boost feature works with the card without having to manually OC. That's the way the card works, and it works well. The ONLY thing that matters is performance, not how the performance is made or by what process is used to obtain it.
 
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Thats FINE but comparing benchmarks where the Nvidia gpus are oced and still called stock for some reason is ridiculous.

Don't you get it. Nvidia GPUs don't overclock themselves when they can, they downclock themselves when they must. It's all semantics.
 
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Don't you get it. Nvidia GPUs don't overclock themselves when they can, they downclock themselves when they must. It's all semantics.

You know, its called GPU boost. Not GPU Throttle 2.0.
 
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Maybe if AMD implemented a boost feature...

It's a moot argument. Nvidia's boost feature works with the card without having to manually OC. That's the way the card works, and it works well. The ONLY thing that matters is performance, not how the performance is made or by what process is used to obtain it.

My point is that you can make the 7950 perform equal or better.
 
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