4 GB RAM - BF 4 stuttering a lot.

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

Hi everyone, I have the configuration as stated on my specs. I am getting pretty decent FPS in BF 4 with my 6770 overclocked as in specs(35 FPS average on 1600*900 some high, some ultra but antialiasing off). But after playing for say 5-10 mins, the game stutters and lags like hell and I can see the HDD is constantly being accessed. I monitored and found that the RAM usage is really high. I don't have much background process and in idle, around 28% RAM is used which is good for 4GB
Now new RAM is damn costly these days. It is almost impossible for me to buy a new 8 GB kit now but I will do it if it is absolutely required. Do you have the same problem too with 4 GB RAM? Help appreciated.

johnspack · Oct 30, 2013

The 4gbs of ram is probably choking you a bit. 6-8 cpu threads will also help. If I had the game, I would be able to run it at 60fps min at ultra on 2 gtx480s, or around 38fps on a single. It's quite cpu dependant, so an i7 will help a lot. Sorry, amd cpus I can't tell you about too much, but I'd go a 6 or 8 core model. If you like amd video cards, a 7950 or better is what you want to get.

natr0n · Oct 30, 2013

You might need to defrag game is huge.

try defraggler and see if it still stutters.

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

johnspack said:
The 4gbs of ram is probably choking you a bit. 6-8 cpu threads will also help. If I had the game, I would be able to run it at 60fps min at ultra on 2 gtx480s, or around 38fps on a single. It's quite cpu dependant, so an i7 will help a lot. Sorry, amd cpus I can't tell you about too much, but I'd go a 6 or 8 core model. If you like amd video cards, a 7950 or better is what you want to get.

I know but my CPU is fine. People are getting 70-90 FPS with the CPU I have without overclocking with a 7950. I just need to upgrade my GPU and RAM but I am giving priority on the RAM.

natr0n said:
You might need to defrag game is huge.

try defraggler and see if it still stutters.

Yeah did it but no use.

But I managed to reduce the stutter by slightly decreasing settings. Still RAM is 81% used.

Jetster · Oct 30, 2013

I would give priority to the GPU, then the Ram. Trying to run BF4 on a 6770 has got to be frustrating. And for the record I was getting 50 fps with a single 7950 and a 3770 CPU on High

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

Jetster said:
I would give priority to the GPU, then the Ram. Trying to run BF4 on a 6770 has got to be frustrating. And for the record I was getting 50 fps with a single 7950 and a 3770 CPU on High

I will see what I can do. Can you tell me when the price of DDR3 RAM will fall? If ever again? Or should I grab one 8 GB kit now?

Fourstaff · Oct 30, 2013

itsakjt said:
Can you tell me when the price of DDR3 RAM will fall? If ever again? Or should I grab one 8 GB kit now?

It has been going up for some time now, and I don't see it falling now that DDR4 has been finalised and factories starting to retool for its production. Grab another 4Gb kit if you have enough memory slots to save money.

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 30, 2013

natr0n said:
You might need to defrag game is huge.

try defraggler and see if it still stutters.

You don't need defraggler if you are on Windows 7 or 8.

You should definitely get another 4GB kit of memory. DICE recommends 8GB. I use about 5-6GB when im playing.

And yes that 6770 is killing you too.

Cruise51 · Oct 30, 2013

I would think 4GB would be a little low. Though you may not need 8GB either.
6GB maybe?

MxPhenom 216 · Oct 30, 2013

Cruise51 said:
I would think 4GB would be a little low. Though you may not need 8GB either.
6GB maybe?

8GB is pretty much the new gold standard.

Cruise51 · Oct 30, 2013

MxPhenom 216 said:
8GB is pretty much the new gold standard.

True... Though he is on a tight budget, I'd think 6GB would be enough for him to play smoothly.

Correct me if I'm wrong though, I have no personal experience with BF4.

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

The thing is if I can get 6 GB, I can get 8 GB also. I will sell my existing 2 GB sticks.
As for the GPU, it is okayish. Getting 35-40 FPS average on high settings but AA is set to off. Nevertheless, as long as it looks good, I am happy. I can set some settings to Ultra too without any issues and without any FPS drop but then the RAM struggles. That's why I am more inclined to getting more RAM.

HD64G · Oct 30, 2013

HDD is almost full I suppose. Or above 60-70% at least. Page file problem I think due to low speed of HDD because they lower their performance to half when getting filled above this. Which starts from the drain of system RAM.

erocker · Oct 30, 2013

itsakjt said:
It is almost impossible for me to buy a new 8 GB kit now but I will do it if it is absolutely required.

It's pretty much been shown that 8 gb's of ram is needed with Battlefield 3. BF4 is no different.

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

I played BF3 and still play it all at Ultra and 2x MSAA @1600*900 and get 40 FPS average in the same rig. So how come this is causing so much problem?

erocker · Oct 30, 2013

It is more taxing on your system.

H82LUZ73 · Oct 30, 2013

Frost Bite 3 is what is causing it ,Try to get another 4/8 gig memory and it should even out.

Wow really overclocking the AMD with the stock cooler is also the problem,Try to downclock the cpu a few mhz and see if the problem is there.I would recommend a cheaper $40-$60 tower cooler .

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

H82LUZ73 said:
Frost Bite 3 is what is causing it ,Try to get another 4/8 gig memory and it should even out.

Wow really overclocking the AMD with the stock cooler is also the problem,Try to downclock the cpu a few mhz and see if the problem is there.I would recommend a cheaper $40-$60 tower cooler .

That overclock is done with reduced voltage and is still stable. The IMC voltage is increased. Overall, the temps are almost same irrespective of stock and overclock at load and idle and no question of throttling. I will be buying more RAM soon.

Dent1 · Oct 30, 2013

itsakjt said:
Hi everyone, I have the configuration as stated on my specs. I am getting pretty decent FPS in BF 4 with my 6770 overclocked as in specs(35 FPS average on 1600*900 some high, some ultra but antialiasing off). But after playing for say 5-10 mins, the game stutters and lags like hell and I can see the HDD is constantly being accessed. I monitored and found that the RAM usage is really high. I don't have much background process and in idle, around 28% RAM is used which is good for 4GB
Now new RAM is damn costly these days. It is almost impossible for me to buy a new 8 GB kit now but I will do it if it is absolutely required. Do you have the same problem too with 4 GB RAM? Help appreciated.

I did an experiment about 1 years back with BF3.

I have 16GB of ram so I turn off page filing. I found that BF3 actually uses up to 6 GB of RAM total if the resources are available. I would presume BF4 would use more.

FreedomEclipse · Oct 30, 2013

Dent1 said:
I did an experiment about 1 years back with BF3.

I have 16GB of ram so I turn off page filing. I found that BF3 actually uses up to 6 GB of RAM total if the resources are available. I would presume BF4 would use more.

Every time i turn off pagefile BF3 crashes on me - I also have 16gigs of ram. I just leave windows to manage pagefile instead of setting custom values.

Dent1 · Oct 30, 2013

FreedomEclipse said:
Every time i turn off pagefile BF3 crashes on me - I also have 16gigs of ram. I just leave windows to manage pagefile instead of setting custom values.

You have an stability problem.

Been running 16GB since DDR2 (2006) without page file. Never had a page file related crash.

Enterprise24 · Oct 30, 2013

My rig with 8GB RAM still feel some laggy in multiplayer mode.
I read somewhere BF4 with highest setting can use RAM 9-10GB.

FreedomEclipse · Oct 30, 2013

Dent1 said:
You have an stability problem.

Been running 16GB since DDR2 (2006) without page file. Never had a page file related crash.

nope.

some other programs crash is well if i dont have pagefile on, its always how its been, Doesnt matter if it was on my old 2500k rig on this 3930k rig. some apps just NEED that pagefile there even if they dont use it.

::EDIT::

Also what i mean by crash is that the program CTDs on start up. I never got BSODs unless it was running AMD Xfire in ARMA II with 6970s. For the better part I make sure my OCs pass at least 12hrs+ of prime95 before I greenlight the system for use.

I rarely BSOD

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

Update here. I installed a new update to the game and it is running so much better now. Almost zero stutter.

brandonwh64 · Oct 30, 2013

4GB is not good for BF3 or BF4 as erocker said. When I first built my 2600K system I used 4GB and a 560TI and it stuttered like no ones business! After getting 8GB it was buttery smooth with the 560TI

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