4 GB RAM - BF 4 stuttering a lot.

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

Yeah I will get a 8 GB kit soon. Anyone knows when the prices will drop? Or whether it will rise? Thanks.

Arjai · Oct 30, 2013

itsakjt said:
Yeah I will get a 8 GB kit soon. Anyone knows when the prices will drop? Or whether it will rise? Thanks.

Give me minute, while I fire up the time machine...

Wrigleyvillain · Oct 30, 2013

Yes 6GB for BF3 is about right so 8GB min installed for BF4. It did not actually need the whole 8 but 4 wasn't enough. Just like 2 wasn't enough for BC2 nor 1GB for BF2.

Arjai · Oct 30, 2013

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3006760#post3006760

Frick · Oct 30, 2013

itsakjt said:
Yeah I will get a 8 GB kit soon. Anyone knows when the prices will drop? Or whether it will rise? Thanks.

Here they have been climbing pretty steadily the last year. If you bought 8GB sticks for €200 one and a half year ago you'd be able to sell them for €300 now. Now they seem pretty steady though, but I doubt we'll ever see those glorious days of €40 for a good 1600Mhz 8GB stick again.

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

Frick said:
Here they have been climbing pretty steadily the last year. If you bought 8GB sticks for €200 one and a half year ago you'd be able to sell them for €300 now. Now they seem pretty steady though, but I doubt we'll ever see those glorious days of €40 for a good 1600Mhz 8GB stick again.

My bad luck. :-( Better to grab them now I think.

Frick · Oct 30, 2013

itsakjt said:
My bad luck. :-( Better to grab them now I think.

You have 4 slots though, and 2GB sticks can be found for pretty cheap if you're willing to go for used parts.

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

Frick said:
You have 4 slots though, and 2GB sticks can be found for pretty cheap if you're willing to go for used parts.

I have 4 slots as well max 32 GB supported as of now. And I am not in for used parts. I have made up my mind and getting a new 8 GB kit along with a new full HD monitor.

Dent1 · Oct 30, 2013

FreedomEclipse said:
nope.

some other programs crash is well if i dont have pagefile on, its always how its been, Doesnt matter if it was on my old 2500k rig on this 3930k rig. some apps just NEED that pagefile there even if they dont use it.

::EDIT::

Also what i mean by crash is that the program CTDs on start up. I never got BSODs unless it was running AMD Xfire in ARMA II with 6970s. For the better part I make sure my OCs pass at least 12hrs+ of prime95 before I greenlight the system for use.

I rarely BSOD

Strange. I've never encountered BSOD or crashes related to page file being disabled. Went through countless apps, freeware, games etc. over the last 6 years of running both 8GB and 16GB with no page file. This is in both Vista & Windows 7.

If my apps needed page file, its going fine without begging.

Aquinus · Oct 30, 2013

You should get a better CPU cooler while your at it. I can see it overheating with your overclock real easily.

Dent1 said:
Strange. I've never encountered BSOD or crashes related to page file being disabled. Went through countless apps, freeware, games etc. over the last 6 years of running both 8GB and 16GB with no page file. This is in both Vista & Windows 7.

If my apps needed page file, its going fine without begging.

That has been my experience as well...

TheMailMan78 · Oct 30, 2013

Also BF4 seems to have a memory leak. Top that off with only 4GB of RAM and its stutter city.

de.das.dude · Oct 30, 2013

itsakjt said:
I will see what I can do. Can you tell me when the price of DDR3 RAM will fall? If ever again? Or should I grab one 8 GB kit now?

wont fall. i grabbed a kit for 3.5k, 2 days before it became 5.5k XD lol

n the topic of bf4, i wonder if ill be able to run ultra at my specs.

de.das.dude · Oct 30, 2013

itsakjt said:
I have 4 slots as well max 32 GB supported as of now. And I am not in for used parts. I have made up my mind and getting a new 8 GB kit along with a new full HD monitor.

dont be foolish and get a used ram kit. they last ages and have liftime warranty.
save money for a new video card or you wont be able to run much games at 1080p with a 6770. 6770 will feel like a 6450 then XD
if you are lucky you will get 3K off that 6770 if u sell asap. add 9k and get a 7790.
or get a 650 ti.

Vario · Oct 30, 2013

16gb even feels smoother than 8gb under windows 7 pro, idk if thats the case with all but I feel smoother with 16gb than when I run 8gb. 8gb is really all you need though, I have rarely come close to filling up a full 8gb.

My dad's i7 930 was running 3x2 gb corsair xms? 1600 cas9 1.65 modules, we upgraded to 3x4gb (12gb) corsair 2000 (at 1600, cas9 1.5v, more stable, didn't perform rated too well) and it made a big difference. He has a lot of bloat and is aware (and proud) of his bloated OS. LOL. Stubborn.

Eroticus · Oct 30, 2013

BF4 Didn't used over 1.5GB of memory

4GB Enough ! don't worry ....

brandonwh64 · Oct 30, 2013

Eroticus said:
BF4 Didn't used over 1.5GB of memory 4GB Enough ! don't worry ....

[url]http://i.imgur.com/dHdzIeL.jpg[/URL]
[url]http://i.imgur.com/3tJiLnn.jpg[/URL]

Keep thinking that....

itsakjt · Oct 30, 2013

de.das.dude said:
dont be foolish and get a used ram kit. they last ages and have liftime warranty.
save money for a new video card or you wont be able to run much games at 1080p with a 6770. 6770 will feel like a 6450 then XD
if you are lucky you will get 3K off that 6770 if u sell asap. add 9k and get a 7790.
or get a 650 ti.

The thing is ultimately it all comes down to money. So I can't afford a new GPU at the moment.
And I want a good dual channel 1600 MHz 8 GB kit. But I don't see anyone selling it 2nd hand. :-(
As for the GPU, I will reduce resolution to 1600*900 if the games lag. I have seen the Dell S2240M on 1600*900 and it looks good enough.

Dent1 · Oct 30, 2013

itsakjt said:
The thing is ultimately it all comes down to money. So I can't afford a new GPU at the moment.
And I want a good dual channel 1600 MHz 8 GB kit. But I don't see anyone selling it 2nd hand. :-(
As for the GPU, I will reduce resolution to 1600*900 if the games lag. I have seen the Dell S2240M on 1600*900 and it looks good enough.

More RAM will help, but the real issue is the 6770. That would be barely enough for BF3 on ultra, let alone BF4 ultra. You need a better video card too. Otherwise keep everything at medium.

itsakjt · Oct 31, 2013

I agree that upgrading the GPU will help a lot. But is it absolutely necessary? I mean look, it is not that I have to play the game at the highest possible settings. I am playing it with the following settings and you will see the FPS on the screens as follows :

It looks quite good and settings are good enough. The GPU is even able to handle texture quality and filtering at Ultra but then the game stutters after sometime of play because of insufficient RAM. I am getting 35-40 FPS most of the times. So its quite good.

natr0n · Oct 31, 2013

IMO turn off ambient occlusion,AA post set to low and set motion blur to 0.

You will get better frames and card wont get hammered.

*until you get more ram

I had a 5770/6770 so I know what they can handle.

ShiBDiB · Oct 31, 2013

You need more ram

/thread

Seriously tho.. that's the fix, you need 8GB to play this game without a ram bottleneck.

The gpu can be upgraded later, just play on medium/high and not ultra

Hayder_Master · Oct 31, 2013

the 8Gb is stander ram size for games, nothing reach 6Gb usage but 8 gb will be cool

Dent1 · Oct 31, 2013

itsakjt said:
I agree that upgrading the GPU will help a lot. But is it absolutely necessary? I mean look, it is not that I have to play the game at the highest possible settings. I am playing it with the following settings and you will see the FPS on the screens as follows :

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It looks quite good and settings are good enough. The GPU is even able to handle texture quality and filtering at Ultra but then the game stutters after sometime of play because of insufficient RAM. I am getting 35-40 FPS most of the times. So its quite good.

Is that campaign or online? The requirements for online is significantly more intense.

64 players on the map online vs a few CPU controlled characters on campaign.

itsakjt · Oct 31, 2013

Dent1 said:
Is that campaign or online? The requirements for online is significantly more intense.

64 players on the map online vs a few CPU controlled characters on campaign.

That is single player. I don't play multiplayer much. But I think it should run better because the CPU would not have to control any players at all. Time will tell. I don't feel like that I have to upgrade my GPU. As for my CPU, it is awesome thanks to the overclock I did to it. I have benchmarked and it is better than a FX6100, 6300 and sometimes even 8120.

Dent1 · Oct 31, 2013

itsakjt said:
That is single player. I don't play multiplayer much. But I think it should run better because the CPU would not have to control any players at all. Time will tell. I don't feel like that I have to upgrade my GPU.

Multi player wouldn't run better. The CPU still have to perform calculations which the video card doesn't or hasn't done. i.e. sending / receiving server calculations and logs about where all 64 players are on screen, calculating damage, calculating physics, processing the audio for al 64 players including cars, jets and objects in your surrounding area that produce audio. Managing post processing for the GPU. I can go on forever.

I'm not saying you need a new CPU I'm just saying multi player requires a beefier CPU than single player in general.

itsakjt said:
As for my CPU, it is awesome thanks to the overclock I did to it. I have benchmarked and it is better than a FX6100, 6300 and sometimes even 8120.

This is false. An overclocked AMD Phenom II X4 955 would not be powerful than an FX6100, 6300 or 8120, especially in a game like BF4 which is multi thread and CPU heavy in general. Also consider those above mentioned CPUs can overclock up to 1Ghz above what a typical Phenom II can.

Judging by your screen shots your system handles single player OK, if you just play campaign you're fine. The stuttering could be driver related or a slow HDD or anything really. But only having a 6770 and 4GB does stick out and if money was to be dropped those two issues should be solved first.

But for now look into ATI's new Beta Driver http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2295/amd-catalyst-13-11-beta-8/

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