Do you think by PS5 time disc-based data will be deprecated, and when you buy a game you'll be buying a small flash card (kind of like SD card or something similar, maybe something proprietary)?
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I wish we still used carts, can't beat having to blow it to start the game properly, plus on my N64, and all other cart based consoles ive played for that matter, no loading screens. Champion.
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No, for one simple reason and the same reason why game cartridges (read-only equivalents of flash memory, really) were killed: DRM. The laser etching equipment publishers use is multi-million dollar stuff that can't really be duplicated (think money presses). This is why you can spot a fake disk easily. Flash memory is too easy to copy (read: pirate) and there's no technical means to prevent it.Do you think by PS5 time disc-based data will be deprecated, and when you buy a game you'll be buying a small flash card (kind of like SD card or something similar, maybe something proprietary)?
The reason why handheld devices have been predominantly ROMs is because of the problems associated with keeping a disk spinning while the device may be in motion. Motors also take more power than ROMs and they require substantially more space in the device than a ROM port of some kind. The only advantage disks have in that scenario is mass production costs.I guess games out grew the capacity of a cart - Might be fine for all the handheld 'gameboy' consoles out there since devs dont need to mess with hi-def textures and other stuff due to the small screen size and the games are probably small enough to fit on one cart or memory card.
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The reason why handheld devices have been predominantly ROMs is because of the problems associated with keeping a disk spinning while the device may be in motion. Motors also take more power than ROMs and they require substantially more space in the device than a ROM port of some kind. The only advantage disks have in that scenario is mass production costs.
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Do you think by PS5 time disc-based data will be deprecated, and when you buy a game you'll be buying a small flash card (kind of like SD card or something similar, maybe something proprietary)?
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I guess games out grew the capacity of a cart - Might be fine for all the handheld 'gameboy' consoles out there since devs dont need to mess with hi-def textures and other stuff due to the small screen size and the games are probably small enough to fit on one cart or memory card.
sadly with nintendo all they seem to release are rehashes of mario/wario, donkey kong, Zelda, Metroid & pokemon games and i guess they've got good at fitting everything on a memory card/cart
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Nothing of this will prevent pirating, 100% sure...next gen consoles will be a mix of bluray and DRM encrypted downloads.
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Not because of UMD.the 1st & 2nd gen psp's were amazing thanks for asking (PSP-1000/3000)
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Blu-ray.Which storage medium is better for gaming - BluRay or flash?
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That's not trolling, just my experience with flash memory.OMG the troll is back!
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did i quote your postThat's not trolling, just my experience with flash memory.
Nothing can stop a disappointed consumer.
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Well, we all make mistakes sometimes...i am referring to OP. he is a troll all his threads are weird.
Blu-ray.
Why? I don't want my game data to disappear from flash after "x" seconds/hours/years.
Not to mention the flash durability, which sucks. They say it can last xK read/write cycles and that it could last years, but I've experienced that it's far from reality and they always die much before that (way before).
Happy New Year!
You've got to be kidding me. The "Next Gen"consoles, assuming they aren't just computers, aren't going to use physical media. The simple answer is that physical media offers less controls, and a high cost to manufacture. A digital download can be controlled through DRM and costs virtually nothing to maintain availability for years.
Think about it from the perspective of the publishers and the console manufacturers. Every single disc has to be pressed, packaged, shipped, and placed where consumers can buy them. This means that any disc sitting on a shelf costs the manufacturer a couple of bucks just to get there. On top of that, shelf space is limited, and games rapidly get the boot. This effectively means that discs, or other physical media, have a very short window to be visible, make a profit, and be relegated to the bargain bin.
A digital store has 0 investment in physical locations (servers don't have to be in population centers), no limitation on how long it can be sold, and the seller basically gets to keep the usage terms to whatever they want. Valve got in on this early via Steam. EA copied the methodology with Origin. Windows 8, Google, and Apple have their respective digital stores. They can effectively control pricing, while taking away the consumers rights to resale. It's a win win for them.
Heck, MS tried to do this already with the Xbox One. They introduced what was functionally a tethered PC, without explaining how this could be good for consumers. That particular mindset, where consumers will buy anything you put out, is toxic to the industry. MS is trying it again, if rumors were to be believed, with the cheaper disc-drive free Xbox One. This confirms that the days where you buy physical media are numbered. In 7 years (if previous generation life cycles persist) you'll be crazy not to switch to the media free console. I hate it, because I don't see console manufacturers maintaining backwards compatibility. GOG for consoles isn't something I can see happening. Frankly though, the games that sell the most might well be the ones with annual releases which make backwards compatibility not particularly worthwhile. Forced online connectivity, with a required community component, means games can only die a slow death as the community moves onward.
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That's more than flash memory...BluRay discs have a 10-15 year life span.
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Well actually, perhaps the only reason that physical media still exists and will IMO always exist is because there is just something about as a consumer having the thing you purchased physically in your hand. And being able to store a collection of things you purchased where you can see it.
Let me elaborate by expressing that I have not, nor will ever, buy a digital download on a PS3/PS4 game. I will always buy it in physical form. I am sure many (or perhaps most) other people feel the same way.
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I have games that say you are wrong. Nintendo games for example. There will be internet available emulators by the time ROM dies, I have all my old game systems, and yet play ROM's on emulators that use a whole 10% of one core of my CPU and 2% of the low power state of my GPU.Blu-ray.
Why? I don't want my game data to disappear from flash after "x" seconds/hours/years.
Not to mention the flash durability, which sucks. They say it can last xK read/write cycles and that it could last years, but I've experienced that it's far from reality and they always die much before that (way before).
Happy New Year!
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I'm always wrong, nem quero ouvir...I have games that say you are wrong.