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Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Better than a blatently and patently false statement that it's faster.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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System Name | AlderLake / Laptop |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1) |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620 |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit |
Software | Windows 11 / Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
System Name | Team Crimson |
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Processor | AMD FX 8320 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 |
Cooling | Corsair H80i |
Memory | DDR3 16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 8GB RAM |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Crucial MX300 275GB |
Display(s) | AOC 2752H 27" 1080p |
Case | NZXT Source 220 Windowed |
Power Supply | Antec Earthworks 650W |
Mouse | Logitech M510/ AGPTEK T-90 Zelotes |
Keyboard | Logitech K360/ iBUYPOWER TTC RED Switch Mechanical |
Software | Windows 8.1 64 Bit |
System Name | Comet Lake |
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Processor | Intel® Core™ i5-10600K CPU @ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo |
Memory | CORSAIR LPX 32GB DDR4 3200 CL16 B-die |
Video Card(s) | GeForce® RTX 3060Ti™ |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus M2 1TB & Seagate 2TB ST2000DM008-2UB102 |
Display(s) | Dell 24 Gaming Monitor - S2422HG 165 Hz Curved |
Case | AQIRYS Arcturus |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek® ALC1200 Codec | Logitech Z533 |
Power Supply | RMx White Series™ RM750x |
Mouse | Genesis Krypton 770 |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 |
VR HMD | N/A Skip |
Software | W10 Pro x64 |
Benchmark Scores | XXX |
Processor | E5-1680 V2 |
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Motherboard | Rampage IV black |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 7900 xtx |
Storage | 500 gb sd |
Software | windows 10 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | 29,433 3dmark06 score |
Yes, now there are great deals for new 980Ti's as low as $400, and the performance is close to 1080.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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Processor | E5-1680 V2 |
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Motherboard | Rampage IV black |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 7900 xtx |
Storage | 500 gb sd |
Software | windows 10 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | 29,433 3dmark06 score |
System Name | AlderLake / Laptop |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz / Intel i3 7100U |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master / HP 83A3 (U3E1) |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans / Fan |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 / 8GB DDR4 HyperX CL13 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio / Intel HD620 |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 / Samsung 256GB M.2 SSD |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p / 14" 1080p IPS Glossy |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window / HP Pavilion |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W / Powerbrick |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless / Logitech M330 wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless / HP backlit |
Software | Windows 11 / Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
980Ti's as low as $400, and the performance is close to 1080.
System Name | Gamer |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 3700x |
Motherboard | AsRock B550 Phantom Gaming ITX/AX |
Memory | 32GB |
Video Card(s) | ASRock Radeon RX 6800 XT Phantom Gaming D |
Case | Phanteks Eclipse P200A D-RGB |
Power Supply | 800w CM |
Mouse | Corsair M65 Pro |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Processor | E5-1680 V2 |
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Motherboard | Rampage IV black |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 7900 xtx |
Storage | 500 gb sd |
Software | windows 10 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | 29,433 3dmark06 score |
From the research I did before getting one, the 980ti seems to be ~70% the performance of a 1080. So if you can find one for ~300 USD, it's still a heck of a deal, especially for 1080p/1440p.
EDIT: Especially if you overclock, or even get one of the factory overclocked versions. The 980ti FTW was for sale for 300 bucks for the holidays on EVGA's b-stock.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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I looked at the numbers and I can safely say the 1070 can expect to lose pretty much every time when it and the ti are at max air clocks
Processor | E5-1680 V2 |
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Motherboard | Rampage IV black |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 7900 xtx |
Storage | 500 gb sd |
Software | windows 10 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | 29,433 3dmark06 score |
Processor | E5-1680 V2 |
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Motherboard | Rampage IV black |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 7900 xtx |
Storage | 500 gb sd |
Software | windows 10 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | 29,433 3dmark06 score |
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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I can safely say the 1070 can expect to lose pretty much every time when it and the ti are at max air clocks....
....You overclock them ti reverses that and then some.
System Name | Team Crimson |
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Processor | AMD FX 8320 |
Motherboard | Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 |
Cooling | Corsair H80i |
Memory | DDR3 16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 8GB RAM |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB / Crucial MX300 275GB |
Display(s) | AOC 2752H 27" 1080p |
Case | NZXT Source 220 Windowed |
Power Supply | Antec Earthworks 650W |
Mouse | Logitech M510/ AGPTEK T-90 Zelotes |
Keyboard | Logitech K360/ iBUYPOWER TTC RED Switch Mechanical |
Software | Windows 8.1 64 Bit |
Processor | E5-1680 V2 |
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Motherboard | Rampage IV black |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 7900 xtx |
Storage | 500 gb sd |
Software | windows 10 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | 29,433 3dmark06 score |
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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1440P overclocked:
GTX 1070 is 3% faster than GTX 980Ti
GTX 1080 is 23% faster than GTX 980Ti
Processor | E5-1680 V2 |
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Motherboard | Rampage IV black |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 7900 xtx |
Storage | 500 gb sd |
Software | windows 10 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | 29,433 3dmark06 score |
I dont want to split hairs with you any more than I already have, honestly. I have no horse in this race except to make sure the people reading are armed with facts... or closer to reality.
Perhaps more carefully choose your words to mean what you say. Because 'reversing it' means that now the 980Ti has the same lead the 1070 did and then some means even more on top of that. Patently misleading at best... or cherry picking a result or two to make it true when the big picture tells a much different story. I know you wouldn't do that, so, just choose your words more wisely to mean more accurately the point you want to convey.
EDIT: Ahh ha!! Yup, some titles it does take the lead... others its still behind.. overall in this testing, at 2560x1440, it was still 3% behind on average.
http://www.overclock.net/t/1601896/...ck-showdown-gtx-980ti-vs-gtx-1070-vs-gtx-1080
System Name | Firebird |
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Processor | Intel i7 2600K @5.0'ish 24/7 stock core Voltage {5.2 w/102 bCLK} |
Motherboard | Intel Extreme DZ68BC SkullTrail Z68 Cougerpoint, Excellent MCH ! |
Cooling | Scythe NINJA PLUS Rev.B[skt478] Modded to 1155 Scythe SH12 fan |
Memory | Samsung 32nm 16Gb 4x4 (@19xxmhz} low profile[ better than 2133 banwidth] |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte Aurosus 1080Ti |
Storage | Intel 512 SSD,Samsung 9701Tb, Toshiba 3Tbx2,Hitachi 320,1TBx2,'Cuda 400 7200.10, WD1TBUSB,to SATA |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440 27" WQHD, Samsung 226W, Vizio M60C3 4K 60",Vizio XVT3D554SV |
Case | CoolerMaster HAF 932 |
Audio Device(s) | Intel 10ch[9+1] HD Audio X540> Pioneer VSX39TX[copper chasis,Rosewood sides 5x6LCD remote |
Power Supply | Seasonic X750 @ 24/7 |
Mouse | Logictech G300s |
Keyboard | Saitek Cyborg v7 |
Software | Windows 7 ROG E3 X64 by Neuropass/tweakscene |
Benchmark Scores | 4642@665/1600 220/GAT F1 4544 220/667strap 2.5/3/2/6 Bliss 650/1500 6490 Q6700 Bliss 690/1500 |
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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And I bet in a couple titles it takes the lead
Processor | E5-1680 V2 |
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Motherboard | Rampage IV black |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 7900 xtx |
Storage | 500 gb sd |
Software | windows 10 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | 29,433 3dmark06 score |
Huh? So both cards clocked the same =about the same FPS on the game
So under clock the new card but why, so it just equals about the same tflop then well yes they should perform about the same.
WTH am I missing?????????????? rhetorical statement
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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They may end up further apart if tested now. Haven't people been complaining about the lack of improvements in older generations???It's just a way of showing mhz for mhz one is faster. Admittedly that isn't what I was going for but only max clocks for both, which puts us at a virtual tie and trading blows. My point is the 1070 is NOT really statistically faster than a 980ti when both are clocked to max. I still would like a test NOW not from June and see where they'd end up AND with 1500 mhz on the ti and 2100 on the 1070. Regardless at best I think it's fair to say the 980ti =1070 when overclocked. NOT that the ti is faster but also my point definitely NOT that the 1070 is faster and appreciably so like...say 24%.
Processor | E5-1680 V2 |
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Motherboard | Rampage IV black |
Video Card(s) | Asrock 7900 xtx |
Storage | 500 gb sd |
Software | windows 10 64 bit |
Benchmark Scores | 29,433 3dmark06 score |
980Ti doesn't even match the 1070, forget the 1080...
True, 980ti doesn't even come close to 1080. About 30% slower from what I've seen. But it does match the 1070, nearly identically. And can be had for 100 bucks cheaper.
Fair enough... We could argue aaaaall day long, and post benchmark after benchmark. Ive found several where the 980ti even beat the 1070. But the truth is, at 1080p and 1440p, real-world performance difference that you can truly see, is going to be negligible.
THIS. I did exhaustive research on reviews on here and other sites with the 980ti, 1070, and 1080 and made every comparison between models stock/overclocked in various games/scenarios etc. the "stock" 980ti is particularly overclockable and at pretty low clocks in relation to the 1000 series and factoring that in (since every card I'd overclock once I had it) especially at price I found it there was no choice. I WANTED to buy a new gen 1070 gigabyte mini because it's tiny and still oc'd fairly well and just so much less hassle moving around case and getting wires around it etc...was 399$ at the time. I went out of my way to search through multiple games/scenarios etc with the 1070 vs a 980ti with typical values when OC'd and honestly though I wanted that nice little mini card for space convenience and the newer tech/power consumption I looked at the numbers and I can safely say the 1070 can expect to lose pretty much every time when it and the ti are at max air clocks. At "stock" clocks the 980ti is 9% slower than 1070. You overclock them ti reverses that and then some.
If you overclock a 980Ti and a 1070 to their 'limits' (~1500 Mhz on the 980Ti and 2100 on the 1070), the 980Ti creeps closer, indeed, but it is still generally slower. I ran this test with a 1070 Gaming X and a 980Ti Extreme Gaming personally. Let me put it another way though...
1. 1070 vs 980Ti is 12% faster reference for reference
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_GTX_1070/24.html
2. The Gaming Z, is another 6% faster in its stock form (totaling 18%)
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/26.html
3. That 1070 Gaming Z overclocked to 2114 MHz, adds more on top of that... in BF4, 11% on top of its stock clocks. If we went by that single title, the lead would be 39%. Since that isn't a good data set, I will cut in in half to 6% making the lead ~24% over a reference 980Ti. The 980Ti overclocks well, but it isn't going to catch a 1070 in most titles. The 980Ti will NOT "reverse that and then some". It will come very close though, buts its not taking a lead by several percent and pushing forward... no way. Been there, done this.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_1070_Gaming_Z/29.html
System Name | New Build - Oct. 2021 |
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Processor | Intel i7 10700k |
Motherboard | Asus TUF Gaming H570-PRO |
Cooling | Corsair H100i |
Memory | Corsair Vengence 16gb 3600 mhz |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte RTX 3060ti 8gb |
Storage | 1Tb Samsung 970 EVO NvMe m.2 |
Display(s) | 27" LG Ultragear 144hz |
Case | Fractal Design- Meshify 2 |
Audio Device(s) | Onborad dts |
Power Supply | Corsair RX 650 W |
Mouse | Roccat Kiro |
Keyboard | Razer Tarantula |
Software | Windows 10 Home x64 |
Off topic or not this is good stuff, I am enjoying all the input. Still haven't gotten a card yet, looking to only spend $200 or less though so I can't go crazy.
Personally I wouldn't buy a used card regardless the condition of it, but hey that's just me.
I'd say get a new GTX1060 6GB non reference.
System Name | Comet Lake |
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Processor | Intel® Core™ i5-10600K CPU @ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | MSI MPG Z490 GAMING PLUS |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo |
Memory | CORSAIR LPX 32GB DDR4 3200 CL16 B-die |
Video Card(s) | GeForce® RTX 3060Ti™ |
Storage | Samsung 970 Evo Plus M2 1TB & Seagate 2TB ST2000DM008-2UB102 |
Display(s) | Dell 24 Gaming Monitor - S2422HG 165 Hz Curved |
Case | AQIRYS Arcturus |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek® ALC1200 Codec | Logitech Z533 |
Power Supply | RMx White Series™ RM750x |
Mouse | Genesis Krypton 770 |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 |
VR HMD | N/A Skip |
Software | W10 Pro x64 |
Benchmark Scores | XXX |