9600 GT performance issues

Killaz · Apr 10, 2008

Hello everyone! My first post to the forum.

My problem is as follows: I replaced my old Gainward Bliss 7900 GS with Leadtek PX9600GT and now i'm getting bad framerates in HL2 (incl. EP1,EP2 and TF2) and I think
that also F.E.A.R. runs worse than on 7900GS. In HL2 i get like 5-15 fps and that certainly is not normal. F.E.A.R. runs slightly better (avg. ~30 fps) but still not good enough, because 7900 GS performed better. Also, HL2 finds optimal settings for one's computer and with the new 9600 GT the results are ridiculous: no AA, no AF, 1024x768 resolution and stuff like that. Problems show up in Win XP, haven't installed
HL2 or FEAR into Vista. Something is really wrong with this 9600 GT....

What I have done so far:

- Tried 174.53 and 174.74 drivers.
- Ran driver cleaner prior to installing new drivers
- Done complete virus/adware/spyware scans, nothing found
- Is 12666 pts normal result from 3dmark05??

Specs of my rig:

AMD x2 3800+ @ 2400mhz
1536MB DDR400 Ram
Epox 9NPA+ Ultra Mobo (NF4 Ultra chipset)
Leadtek PX9600GT @ Stock clocks, bios version: 62.94.0D.00.02
BeQuiet StraightPower 400W PSU (30A to the +12v rails)
2x SATA Harddisks
DVD-RW Drive
Benq 20" Widescreen LCD-display
SB Audigy SE
Win XP home & Win Vista Ultimate as dual boot

Have read stories off the internet that my current bios version could cause various troubles. Any confirmation for this statement?

Cheers,

Killaz (Sorry if my english is bad, i'm from Finland!

)

Titus · Apr 10, 2008

Hi

Have you desactivated your vertical sync in drivers parameters ?

Black Panther · Apr 10, 2008

Have you tried running 3dmark06 and comparing your score?

True the 7900 was high-end and the 9600 is mid-range, but I don't think it'd be a bad performer so much?

Edit: Welcome to the forum!

Killaz · Apr 10, 2008

Hmm... Can't remeber... I'm using vista at the moment but i will soon boot to win xp and see what's going on.

Black Panther: Yes, 7900GS was good performer not so long ago, but i think 9600 gt is twice as fast as the 7900GS is. 9600 GT should do better than 15fps in HL2 (on lowest settings). I will run 3Dmark06 as soon i get to win xp... will post results here

Black Panther · Apr 10, 2008

Wait a sec...

What motherboard do you have? Does it have 2 pci-e slots? If yes, make sure you've put the 9600 in the proper x16 one, the other would only be like x2 and you'll get lower performance.

Edit: your mobo's got 4 pci-e slots, only one of them is x16 the rest are x1 according to this site.

Killaz · Apr 10, 2008

My mobo is Epox 9NPA+ Ultra and it has one pci-e x 16 slot. 9600 GT is installed into that slot, the very same slot that 7900 was installed into....

Black Panther · Apr 10, 2008

Lol xbit labs must have some error there. It says 1 pci-e x 16, 3 pci-e x 1 and 3 pci slots! It's clear from the picture though that there are no 4 pci-e slots!

Killaz · Apr 10, 2008

I just finished installing HL2 into win vista. I'll try now how it performs under vista...

Killaz · Apr 10, 2008

This is strange....HL2 actually performed better in vista, though jitter, lag and stutter was almost unbearable in the in-game menus. The game itself was a little better; tried 1440x900 resolution and max setting with 8xAA, 8xAF and got about 40-60 fps. Is that normal?

I'll reboot now and go to win xp in order to run 3dmark06

Killaz · Apr 10, 2008

Done running 3dMark06 and the result was 8118 points. Normal result? What about updating chipset drivers; have never updated them before so they are kinda out of date.....

Killaz · Apr 10, 2008

Whoa! Something happened! I removed WinFox2 which is some leadtek's program similar to gainward's expert tool and updated my chipset drivers. Now HL2 works with decent 40-120 fps with 1440x900 res, all settings maxed out and 4x MSAA, 4x AF. :toast:

I had to re-activate my windows after updating chipset drivers.... :banghead:

Solaris17 · Apr 10, 2008

those scores seem pretty low.,...when you can can you see if removing that and updating the drivers did anything for 3dmark?

Killaz · Apr 10, 2008

Done a new run on 3dmark05 and there was no improvement. I think my cpu is a little bit of a bottleneck here....

Solaris17 · Apr 10, 2008

ya thats my guess it is on mine..i score around 9k with vista 98xx in xp...these cards can break 13k easy non sli so i think your just bottlenecked.

bigtye · Apr 10, 2008

Yeah agred with cpu being bottle neck. I have AMD 4200 X2 with 9600GT and I get 12200 for 3D 05, this went up from 9000 with a 1950 pro.

I have seen the 9600GT do a lot more with a much faster cpu. So don't strees about your 3D 05 scores, glad to hear though that your game frame rate has improved heaps.

Tye

erocker · Apr 10, 2008

Killaz said:
Done running 3dMark06 and the result was 8118 points. Normal result? What about updating chipset drivers; have never updated them before so they are kinda out of date.....

With a 3800+ X2 at 2.4ghz, that score seems spot-on!

SUPERREDDEVIL · Apr 11, 2008

Killaz said:
Hello everyone! My first post to the forum.

My problem is as follows: I replaced my old Gainward Bliss 7900 GS with Leadtek PX9600GT and now i'm getting bad framerates in HL2 (incl. EP1,EP2 and TF2) and I think
that also F.E.A.R. runs worse than on 7900GS. In HL2 i get like 5-15 fps and that certainly is not normal. F.E.A.R. runs slightly better (avg. ~30 fps) but still not good enough, because 7900 GS performed better. Also, HL2 finds optimal settings for one's computer and with the new 9600 GT the results are ridiculous: no AA, no AF, 1024x768 resolution and stuff like that. Problems show up in Win XP, haven't installed
HL2 or FEAR into Vista. Something is really wrong with this 9600 GT....

What I have done so far:

- Tried 174.53 and 174.74 drivers.
- Ran driver cleaner prior to installing new drivers
- Done complete virus/adware/spyware scans, nothing found
- Is 12666 pts normal result from 3dmark05??

Specs of my rig:

AMD x2 3800+ @ 2400mhz
1536MB DDR400 Ram
Epox 9NPA+ Ultra Mobo (NF4 Ultra chipset)
Leadtek PX9600GT @ Stock clocks, bios version: 62.94.0D.00.02
BeQuiet StraightPower 400W PSU (30A to the +12v rails)
2x SATA Harddisks
DVD-RW Drive
Benq 20" Widescreen LCD-display
SB Audigy SE
Win XP home & Win Vista Ultimate as dual boot

Have read stories off the internet that my current bios version could cause various troubles. Any confirmation for this statement?

Cheers,

Killaz (Sorry if my english is bad, i'm from Finland! )

BETTER SELL THAT 9600GT :banghead:

AND AFFORD AN 8800GT..... :rockout:

Titus · Apr 11, 2008

Hi

For your scores, i've seen that ihad better scores with only 2GB ram than with 3GB ...
Dual channel factor is not negligible. Have you put more ram since your tests on 7900GS ?

Killaz · Apr 11, 2008

I had 1,5GB of ram when i had 7900GS. Well, things were good yesterday, but today same problems seem to continue. I STILL have bad frame rates in several games

Maybe my current mobo is incompatible with the 9600GT or something...

I just don't know what to do next. What if i just toss my computer off the balcony :rockout:

and buy PS3?

It seems that the whole win xp is a complete mess at the moment so only solution would propably be a fresh install. I have also thougt about purchasing e2180, abit ip35-e and 2 gigs of 800 mhz
ddr2. Can't afford Q9450, good mobo and stuff like that at the moment.

Can my PSU handle that new hardware i'm planning to buy? I won't be home tomorrow so i cannot post any answers before sunday (finnish time)

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