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Processor | Intel i5 12600KF |
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Motherboard | MSI PRO Z690-P DDR4, Socket 1700 |
Cooling | MSI Ventus AIO |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance LPX Black 32GB, DDR4, 3200MHz |
Video Card(s) | MSI VentusRTX 3060 12Gb |
Storage | XPS 1TB | 2x Kingston 2TB Sata | Sinology 4TB (Raid1) | |
Display(s) | 24" Dell U2417H |
Case | Msi Mpg Odin |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek ALC887 + Microlab Solo 6C |
Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME TX-750, 80 |
Mouse | Razer |
Keyboard | Razer |
Software | Windows 10 x64 |
I've recently built this system for myself. And I am being plagued by in game and desktop freezing.
Any help would be more than welcome as I tried troubleshooting it with partial (and boggling) results.
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Intel Pentium E8400 3.00Ghz
Gigabyte GA-EX38-DS5 (F2 BIOS)
Zerotherm Nirvana NV120 Premium
Mushkin XP2-8500 2x1Gb RAM 1066Mhz (dual channel)
Saphire ATi Radeon HD 2600 512Mb (OLD)
Maxtor 160Gb | WD Caviar 400Gb | WD Caviar 500Gb (All OLD)
ASUS DRW-1814BL DVD unit
Audigy 1 24bit SB (OLD)
AntecNeo HE 550W EC
EnGenius EUB-862 usb wireless dongle for internet (Aetheros chipset)
Windows XP SP3
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Notes:
OLD hardware worked fine with a previous built
I flashed my bios from F1 to F2 using Gigabytes @bios (using offline method because it's safer)
Bios is set to Optimal settings except for ram speed set from 1066 to 667 (for 1:1 ratio),
disabled boot logo (I like seeing the post ), and disabled serial and printer ports (on-board, needs auxiliary bracket to use, I never use it anyway);
Symptoms
I. PC freezes while playing many hardware intensive games; Most noticeably Unreal Tournament 3 (UT3) (1280x960 everything else on max settings)
II. Seemingly random freezes on desktop while noticeably more frequent while using uTorrent
III. I connect through my wireless internet using PPPoE. If I shutdown or reboot while the PPPoE is active it ALWAYS freezes. (If I disconnect from the PPPoE it shuts down (or reboots) normaly 100%of times)
Troubleshooting.
1. Ran Orthos to check if my CPU and/or RAM is faulting and/or overheating. Using Everest,
CoreTemp, RealTemp, SpeedFan and CPU-Z for monitoring temps and harware.
After ~4hours of runing Orthos on priority level 7 I checked my temps: Ambient temp 25-26C, Motherboard 36C,
All HDD's bellow 36C (using 120mm fan + cage), CPU 48C (each program reported something
else, Everest and CoreTemp agreed on 48C, others were +/-3C or -10C from the 48C)
Test was still running fine, no freezing;
2. Reseated my video card several times, checked it's temps while running UT3, never got above 56-58C. Freezing still occurs within 1-3Min of playing, depending on map size and detail settings (higher the details, shorter time til freezing occurs).
3. Swapped & reseated both ram modules. no improvement;
4. Ran Msconfig and disabled all non-microsoft services and startups. and it worked! somewhat.. and for a while..
4a. Running UT3 normally with all services enabled always freezes my pc, sometimes I can ctrl+alt+del and close it, most of the times not that "lucky";
4b. Disabled all non-microsoft stuff worked, I played indefinitely, then once every 3-8 reboots it still freezes on same settings (probably my printer service...strangely runs on ocasion even if disabled);
4c. Tried to enable 3rd party services one by one to see if one of them was responsable, to my surprise it wasnt any particular service.. enabling either of them one by one yielded freezes though after longer period of gameplay;
5. Ran massive in depth antivirus/trojan/rootkit scans. System was pristine
6. Uninstalled my ATi 8.4 drivers (antivirus resident off so as to not potentially cause problems), reboot, installed 8.5 (freshly uploaded), reboot, same problems.
7. Reinstaled my 3rd party drivers including the WLAN one, no improvement.
8. Defragged with PerfectDisk the system & games partitions. Including offline (Pagefile=3GB,separate drive from windows & games partitions);
9. Ran dxdiag to check for any errors, no problems detected, everything was up to date.
10. Carefully performed several desperate voodoo like myth tests (frequently detailed on dodgy forums).
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PROBLEM SOLVED:
Additional steps:
- checked PSU parameters and RAM voltage, all was ok;
- uninstalled applications one in the hope of finding the issue;
The problem was a bad .NET 3.5 install. Uninstalled all .NET frameworks (2, 3, 3.5) and did a fresh install of .NET 2.0
All went fine, system is now stable.
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Any help would be more than welcome as I tried troubleshooting it with partial (and boggling) results.
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Intel Pentium E8400 3.00Ghz
Gigabyte GA-EX38-DS5 (F2 BIOS)
Zerotherm Nirvana NV120 Premium
Mushkin XP2-8500 2x1Gb RAM 1066Mhz (dual channel)
Saphire ATi Radeon HD 2600 512Mb (OLD)
Maxtor 160Gb | WD Caviar 400Gb | WD Caviar 500Gb (All OLD)
ASUS DRW-1814BL DVD unit
Audigy 1 24bit SB (OLD)
AntecNeo HE 550W EC
EnGenius EUB-862 usb wireless dongle for internet (Aetheros chipset)
Windows XP SP3
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Notes:
OLD hardware worked fine with a previous built
I flashed my bios from F1 to F2 using Gigabytes @bios (using offline method because it's safer)
Bios is set to Optimal settings except for ram speed set from 1066 to 667 (for 1:1 ratio),
disabled boot logo (I like seeing the post ), and disabled serial and printer ports (on-board, needs auxiliary bracket to use, I never use it anyway);
Symptoms
I. PC freezes while playing many hardware intensive games; Most noticeably Unreal Tournament 3 (UT3) (1280x960 everything else on max settings)
II. Seemingly random freezes on desktop while noticeably more frequent while using uTorrent
III. I connect through my wireless internet using PPPoE. If I shutdown or reboot while the PPPoE is active it ALWAYS freezes. (If I disconnect from the PPPoE it shuts down (or reboots) normaly 100%of times)
Troubleshooting.
1. Ran Orthos to check if my CPU and/or RAM is faulting and/or overheating. Using Everest,
CoreTemp, RealTemp, SpeedFan and CPU-Z for monitoring temps and harware.
After ~4hours of runing Orthos on priority level 7 I checked my temps: Ambient temp 25-26C, Motherboard 36C,
All HDD's bellow 36C (using 120mm fan + cage), CPU 48C (each program reported something
else, Everest and CoreTemp agreed on 48C, others were +/-3C or -10C from the 48C)
Test was still running fine, no freezing;
2. Reseated my video card several times, checked it's temps while running UT3, never got above 56-58C. Freezing still occurs within 1-3Min of playing, depending on map size and detail settings (higher the details, shorter time til freezing occurs).
3. Swapped & reseated both ram modules. no improvement;
4. Ran Msconfig and disabled all non-microsoft services and startups. and it worked! somewhat.. and for a while..
4a. Running UT3 normally with all services enabled always freezes my pc, sometimes I can ctrl+alt+del and close it, most of the times not that "lucky";
4b. Disabled all non-microsoft stuff worked, I played indefinitely, then once every 3-8 reboots it still freezes on same settings (probably my printer service...strangely runs on ocasion even if disabled);
4c. Tried to enable 3rd party services one by one to see if one of them was responsable, to my surprise it wasnt any particular service.. enabling either of them one by one yielded freezes though after longer period of gameplay;
5. Ran massive in depth antivirus/trojan/rootkit scans. System was pristine
6. Uninstalled my ATi 8.4 drivers (antivirus resident off so as to not potentially cause problems), reboot, installed 8.5 (freshly uploaded), reboot, same problems.
7. Reinstaled my 3rd party drivers including the WLAN one, no improvement.
8. Defragged with PerfectDisk the system & games partitions. Including offline (Pagefile=3GB,separate drive from windows & games partitions);
9. Ran dxdiag to check for any errors, no problems detected, everything was up to date.
10. Carefully performed several desperate voodoo like myth tests (frequently detailed on dodgy forums).
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PROBLEM SOLVED:
Additional steps:
- checked PSU parameters and RAM voltage, all was ok;
- uninstalled applications one in the hope of finding the issue;
The problem was a bad .NET 3.5 install. Uninstalled all .NET frameworks (2, 3, 3.5) and did a fresh install of .NET 2.0
All went fine, system is now stable.
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