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Ok you know the eMachine in my System Specs Thingyu.
I am planning to Gut it!

Here is my Propsed idea to put in it :)
Motherboard- ASUS P5GC-MX/1333 LGA 775 Intel 945GC Micro ATX Intel Motherboard- $49.99
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Total $1001.89~estimated

so would it work?
 

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Would work just fine. But . . .

Scrap the e6420, go e4600. Where's your power supply? Why a 320GB for $89 when you can get a 500GB for ~95?
 
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yeah, your current PSU is probably not enough, especially if you are panning on OCing
choose something of a good quality like Corsair, PC power and cooling, and like that...
 
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My vote is for Silverstone. And if you do plan on OCing, from what I have read about that board, and is generally known about ECS boards that are cheaper, they are not made for overclocking.
 
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Just assuming, a grand or cheaper. :p
 
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My vote is for Silverstone. And if you do plan on OCing, from what I have read about that board, and is generally known about ECS boards that are cheaper, they are not made for overclocking.

Silverstone Decathlon is great if you don't care about how much your electric bill costs. They are around 60-70% efficient. I don't mind, though :cool:
 
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Silverstone is great if you don't care about how much your electric bill costs.

Why does everyoen mention a cost of an electric bill with higher wattage rated power supplies? A power supply will only draw what is needed, not a 750W unit drawing 750W whenever it is powered.

Man DD, I have quoted you the past 3 posts. Sup with that tonight?;)
 
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That's why I got one that is 80%.
 
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Why does everyoen mention a cost of an electric bill with higher wattage rated power supplies? A power supply will only draw what is needed, not a 750W unit drawing 750W whenever it is powered.

Man DD, I have quoted you the past 3 posts. Sup with that tonight?;)

Dude. The Silverstone Decathlon series isn't efficient. Look. Find one with 80 Plus Cert. You won't. I'm just saying, if you want a Decathlon, make sure you're not paying the electric bill. Many high wattage PSU's are very efficient.

I should have said the Decathlon series specifically.
 

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I am just saying if its a 76% efficient unit, taking your Ss Decathlon example, means that you have a ~750W max, what happenns if you only need 500W of that power? That's all it will draw from the wall is what you need is 500W. Ok, i will go back to my dungeon now. :)
 
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PSU's have different efficiencies at different wattage draws. I think your analysis of it is wrong.

ExtremeOverclocking.com said:
A power supply's efficiency rating is determined by the ratio of AC power going in to the DC power going out. Generally this comparison is done using Watts as a common unit of measurement. Anything less than 100% efficiency is dissipated wastefully as heat. In reality no power supply will be 100% efficient, that's just a fact of life, however you can (and should) avoid power supplies with very low efficiency ratings.
 
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Im not talking about the efficiency of the units itself, I am talking about the power draw from the wall.

Sorry to go o/t here but ... really look into a different cpu and possibly a different board. Trust me, you will thank me at a later date.
 
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Apologies to the O/P :ohwell:

Im not talking about the efficiency of the units itself, I am talking about the power draw from the wall.

It's simple math.

If your PSU is 100% efficient, it will output no heat, and draw the same from the wall as your system is asking for.

Let's say my PSU is 80% efficient at a 500W load. That means that my PSU is giving my system 500W of DC power, and is pulling 625W from the wall.

Normally, if the system asks for less power, the efficiency is better. So if my system only pulled 300W, it would probably be closer to 88% efficient, and have less AC power converted to heat instead of DC power.
 
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Or shipping...or tax :D

Get a G33 motherboard, and a 9600GT instead of the GSO. An E7200 would be better as well if overclocking or trying to save power.

And Newegg has a promotion right now. Seagate or Samsung 750GB drive for $100.
 
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Whats the budget?

Errr..Fuck... I need to come up with one.. This is in planning stage not the actual buying stage.
I quit my job and i have $500 in reserve (Which i am buying a new camera) Umm maybe i should wait till i have money before planning.
 
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Definitely ditch the e6420 at $180. Go for a c2d with an 800mhz fsb and you can overclock it a bit more with lower end motherboards.

Also, get an OEM vista Home Premium Disc.

Are you building this yourself? This looks very much like something a custom pc site would put together.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115032 - E4600 for $120

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116485 - Vista Home Premium OEM $100

With the money saved on that, you can look for a better graphics card and motherboard or a new PSU. In addition, for the networking devices you are getting, make sure you need the high end ones.

edit: i'll put together a system for $800, give me a sec (excluding the router and wifi card)

Umm i am using the Original Case from my eMachine that is a MicroATX Tower? it has 4 Expansion Bay Plates on the back.
 
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Or shipping...or tax :D

Get a G33 motherboard, and a 9600GT instead of the GSO. An E7200 would be better as well if overclocking or trying to save power.

And Newegg has a promotion right now. Seagate or Samsung 750GB drive for $100.
It may be awhile before i actually get money. I was using this as a basis if my specs would work in genral. I am not buying anything yet
I know things will be better in the future.
 
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It's simple math.

If your PSU is 100% efficient, it will output no heat, and draw the same from the wall as your system is asking for.

Let's say my PSU is 80% efficient at a 500W load. That means that my PSU is giving my system 500W of DC power, and is pulling 625W from the wall.

Normally, if the system asks for less power, the efficiency is better. So if my system only pulled 300W, it would probably be closer to 88% efficient, and have less AC power converted to heat instead of DC power.

Ok so .. What you're saying is not right. Your rig is asking for 350W but the PSU is giving 600W and pulling 500W from the wall? That's what I take it as.
 
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No. System needs 500W. PSU @ 500W is 80% efficient. This means that from the wall, the PSU pulls 625W.

Where'd you get 350? PSU ratings are based off of how much power they can give the system under load. So, my PSU can handle a system that needs 750W of power. If it's 80% efficient at full load, it would pull 937.5W from the wall, and the other 187.5W would be lost through heat.
 
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hauhau I know how you can save $222.99!! :)
Don't buy "OS- Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 English NA DVD", download it from here! :toast:

Now you can spend some money in other stuffs :)

Man, computer stuff where you live are so cheap!! Here it's so expensive! I am :cry:

Wow spam much? Enjoy the ban...
 
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Honestly, that is probably the most foolish thing to do is link to a site that provides illegal downloads.
 
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