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HD4850 Vs. 9800GTX w/AA, review inside .

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Average FPS without AA. With AA the 4850 out paces the 9800GTX with a larger margin.

HD 4850 = 70.5
HD 3870 = 53.5
9800GTX = 69.7
GTX 260 = 80.2
GTX 280 = 95.1
 
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The more benches I see from the 4850, the more I fall in love with the card, and the more I want to see what the 4870 can do.
 
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i think this card is going to do wat 8800gt did in last generation.
 
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The more benches I see from the 4850, the more I fall in love with the card, and the more I want to see what the 4870 can do.

then the more we cant quite believe what may be instore from the 4870x2 :D
 
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then the more we cant quite believe what may be instore from the 4870x2 :D

I hear that!

I think ATi have really done it this time. They don't have the highest performing single card out by any means, the GTX 280 still takes that crown, but the price difference, and the fact you can pick up 2!!! 4850s for the price of a single 280 that outperforms it...well that's just magical :)
 
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when is this card due for release again?

my hd3870 is for sale!
 

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look like the new arch. and extra shaders really give it an edge when it comes to processing data
 
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I've heard from vr-zone that they'll be released on the 25th. And wow they're really sorted out the AA on these beauties. I would love to see how the 4870s perform with their nearlly twice as fast GDDR5!!!

Ati=win!
 

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ATI Radeon HD 4850 :), ATI Radeon HD 4870 :D, ATI Radeon HD 4870X2 :cool:

That is a good card for only ~ $200.
 
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well .. im waiting with bated breath.
 
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I knew ATI still had it in 'em! Nice to see that they're coming back full-force with this generation, and if the 4850s are performing this well, that bodes great news for the rest of the series.


<sigh> it's like seeing the release of the X1900 series all over again :D
 

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To put the 4850 in the same league as those NV monsters just goes to show you what mid-range has become. Sure 2 of them can eat a 280 but when 1 can hold its own so well...I have to get my hands dirty too :D
 
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Now that the new Cat 8.6 drivers are out and are really increasing performance it seems, these cards should definitely do quite well.
 
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Are you sure? My 3870 goes for sale 2mrw.

i'm sorry i didn't get what u want to ask ?

if u r asking about the vendor, they r completely legit. they have been coming up with awesome deals on 8800gtx and gts in the past few months .
 
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well ima try and get it asap
 
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http://www.hardware.fr/articles/724-1/preview-ati-radeon-hd-4850.html


looking at the AA charts, it looks like the AA hit has been fixed on the 4800's finally and it seems to solidly beat the 3870X2 and even beats the GTX260 w/ AA in some games. All at $199 wow.

Plz leave a thx if u found this post helpful .

EDIT : if anyone wants to buy this card below MSRP for $189 , look here Sapphire 4850

The vendor is reputable.

not thats it's ment to but it really doesn't beat a 3870x2 as you say only in half of two bench marks and it really about the same as a 9800gtx. It will do well the chip thats gonna fly will be the 4870x2 and it looks to me the 4870 will beat a 3870x2.
 
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Interesting test report. Here's a summary:



Observations,

1./ 4850 is on average 31.6% faster than 3870. I think we were expecting moew out of 800 shaders and 32 TMU. A bit disappointing IMO.
2./ Cannot match 3870x2 or GTX260
3./ STILL cannot play crysis at 1920x1600. OMG what's wrong with that game? LOL :roll:
 

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Interesting test report. Here's a summary:



Observations,

1./ 4850 is on average 31.6% faster than 3870. I think we were expecting moew out of 800 shaders and 32 TMU. A bit disappointing IMO.
2./ Cannot match 3870x2 or GTX260
3./ STILL cannot play crysis at 1920x1600. OMG what's wrong with that game? LOL :roll:

The average and index statisthically speacking are not acurate. You have to raport it everything to a base like raport it to the 3870 and then do the index. Else if lets say in one game the 280 has 300 fps and 3870 only 100 this will blow your entire calculation away.

My 2 cent
 
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WOW. Big change in stats. LOL

nvidia must be enjoying this
 
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