HD4850 still?

ShadowFold · Jul 12, 2008

Is the HD 4850 still the best 200$ card? I havent been paying attention to anything the past week :ohwell:

I just got payed(301$ yay..) im gonna put 200$ away and the money I make from my 8800GT I should have enough for a 200-220$ card.

SO:

PALiTHD 4850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261018&Tpk=PALiT+4850

or

ZOTAC 9800GTX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500039

ShogoXT · Jul 12, 2008

They should be close to equal speed, but the 4850 is cheaper. So I think that would be the winner.

newtekie1 · Jul 12, 2008

At stock they are about equal.

They HD4850 is cheaper, but the 9800GTX overclocks a lot better.

If you overclock, I would go with the 9800GTX, if overclocking isn't your priority, then go with the HD4850. Either way, they are both great cards.

ShogoXT · Jul 12, 2008

newtekie1 said:
At stock they are about equal.

They HD4850 is cheaper, but the 9800GTX overclocks a lot better.

If you overclock, I would go with the 9800GTX, if overclocking isn't your priority, then go with the HD4850. Either way, they are both great cards.

Thats not really the case, they have OC potential, but they are only limited by the silent fan they have.

newtekie1 · Jul 12, 2008

ShogoXT said:
Thats not really the case, they have OC potential, but they are only limited by the silent fan they have.

And the poorly binned cores, low stock voltages, and poor overclocking tools available.

[I.R.A]_FBi · Jul 12, 2008

newtekie1 said:
And the poorly binned cores, low stock voltages, and poor overclocking tools available.

d00d, are you the anti-ati or something?

calvary1980 · Jul 12, 2008

9800GTX uses Samsung 0.8ns and Hynix 0.8ns Memory which overclocks alot better with voltage than Qimonda.

- Christine

lepra24 · Jul 12, 2008

4850+1

FilipM · Jul 12, 2008

I'd recommend the 9800GTX cos, they are around the same price and the same performance with the 9800 being a bit more expensive, but for that more you get better cooling, better overclocking ability without doing voltmods and so on.

flashstar · Jul 12, 2008

File_1993 said:
I'd recommend the 9800GTX cos, they are around the same price and the same performance with the 9800 being a bit more expensive, but for that more you get better cooling, better overclocking ability without doing voltmods and so on.

But the 9800gtx does have a large 2 slot cooler and requires much more power (and 2 power connectors!).

[I.R.A]_FBi · Jul 12, 2008

and a 9800gtx cant hold in my case.

cooler · Jul 12, 2008

go with 4850 it cheaper
and if u want to overclock better buy third party cooler

4850 + third party cooler will only cost 10-20 buck more than 9800gtx

here and overclock version of 9800gtx (9800 GTX XXX)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150292&nm_mc

it stil lost to 4850 at stock
http://techreport.com/articles.x/14990/9

Cybrnook2002 · Jul 12, 2008

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102747
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125224
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127359

three 4850's for 159 , cant beat that. I love mine

MSI comes with a free copy of "The Witcher"

oli_ramsay · Jul 12, 2008

4850 +1!!!!

Urbklr · Jul 12, 2008

newtekie1 said:
And the poorly binned cores, low stock voltages, and poor overclocking tools available.

They don't use poorly binned cores, the reason the 4870 is running 750MHz and the 4850 can't is because the 4870 is using 1.26v vs 1.15v. Put that voltage into a 4850 and it will hit 750MHz no problem. Both cards will do 900MHz+ on the core aswell, just need to pencil mod, which isn't difficult.

wolf2009 · Jul 12, 2008

i am waiting for the super rv770 as palit guy pointed out, something even better than 3 phase power system and overclocking also a lot better .

wiak · Jul 12, 2008

get the 4850 as a thank to atiamd ;P
as they kicked nvidia in teh nuts for their $300 when they released the 4850 for $200 with better perf, using less power (one 6pin power) and is singelslot!

9800GTX drivers has been milked to much so 4850 is the best choice, there will be many performance drivers ahead of us

4850 vs 9800GTX
4850 wins on HD(Blu-Ray) decoding (better than GTX 280!) also supports Dual 1080p HD playback on H.264/VC-1 and MPEG-2, Audio Support (heck you send Lossless LPCM 7.1 channel audio via HDMI, this cant be done on any 9800GTX or any other N card)
4850 wins on performance & performance vs power usage
4850 wins on drivers (as in you get new drivers EVERY singel months, this month will be catalyst 8.7 on 15 july)
4850 wins on cooling (as in singel slot!)
4850 wins on power (as in one singel PCIe 6pin)

i highly recommend ati, why chose nvidia when ati has alot better card for the monkeys in your wallet atm?

btarunr · Jul 12, 2008

There are numerous 1GB and OC'ed HD4850 variants coming out. I say HD4850. 9800 GTX comes with the same drab reference design on all manufacturers.

newtekie1 · Jul 12, 2008

[I.R.A]_FBi said:
d00d, are you the anti-ati or something?

Just because I know and am willing to point out the negative sides about the HD4850 I am anti-ATi?

Without Voltmodding and BIOS flashing you will be lucky to get 700MHz on the core, most report getting around 685. Increasing the voltage via BIOS modding will get your up to 700MHz, pushing the voltages higher via physical voltage modding will get you up to the 750 and higher range. However, with any voltage increase, a new cooler is in order, which brings the price up to a 9800GTX.

Out of the box, the 9800GTX overclocks a lot better than the HD4850. Everything is already setup for good overclocking on the 9800GTX.

Edit: Also, I would recommend the 8800GTS 512MB over the 9800GTX for several reasons mentions in this thread. The 8800GTS is shorter, has essentially the same cooling, overclocks to very similar clocks as the 9800GTX, and only requires one power connector. Plus newegg has them for $155.

wolf2009 · Jul 12, 2008

btarunr said:
There are numerous 1GB and OC'ed HD4850 variants coming out. I say HD4850. 9800 GTX comes with the same drab reference design on all manufacturers.

exactly thats y i dont want to buy cards from nvidia like 9800gtx, 8800gtx , gtx 260 and gtx 280 . all reference design crap .

i'm getting the palit ati cards .

Urbklr · Jul 12, 2008

I had a look at your PSU, the 4850 would easier on it than a 9800GTX.

I say 4850

trt740 · Jul 12, 2008

get this card

ShadowFold said:
Is the HD 4850 still the best 200$ card? I havent been paying attention to anything the past week I just got payed(301$ yay..) im gonna put 200$ away and the money I make from my 8800GT I should have enough for a 200-220$ card.

SO:

PALiTHD 4850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814261018&Tpk=PALiT+4850

or

ZOTAC 9800GTX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500039

it will overclock and match or surpass a 9800 gtx/ 4850 no problem because really it is a 9800gtx and it comes with witcher ( a very good game for 154.00 after a rebate) Also there are already physx driver avaiable for it. The only difference is the 9800gtx has slighty better ram, and it makes zero difference in games and only about 300 points in benching. Use the difference if you want to then buy a after market cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127325

Urbklr · Jul 12, 2008

trt740 said:
it will overclock and match or surpass a 9800 gtx/ 4850 no problem because really it is a 9800gtx and it comes with witcher ( a very good game for 154.00 after a rebate) Also there are already physx driver avaiable for it. The only difference is the 9800gtx has slighty better ram, and it makes zero difference in games and only about 300 points in benching. Use the difference if you want to then buy a after market cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127325

Or, for only 3 dollar's more he can get the Palit 4850, and overclock it past an overclocked 8800GTS/9800GTX....Believe it or not people, 4850's can overclock quite well :rolleyes:

Me_XMan · Jul 12, 2008

Love crossing firing 4850's...they're very fast!

Scrizz · Jul 12, 2008

+1 on 4850

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