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q6600 vs e7200

wordlessjam

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i am building a new system and i dont know which to get. any advice on which one is better would be great. i hope to have 4GB DDR2 as well if that helps. i am kind noob for all of this! i have an e6600 at the moment. i want to game a bit with it such as assassins creed and the sims 2 and others. my screen resolution is 1400x900 and i want to get an ATi 4670 for it as well. what do u recommend? and i prob wont overclock it either. i will use vista as well

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If your gaming go for the E7200 or even better, a E8500. Idk where you live but here the Q6600 is the same price as a E8500. And a good motherboard to pair them up with would be a ASUS P5Q-Pro P45 board :)
 

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Well I have the q6600 and I couldn't be happier with it, It doesn't oc as well as the e7200 but it does have the advantage of two other cores. The q6600 is good for if you play games, listen to music and instant message all at the same time and anti virus scanning. If you want to overclock then go for the e7200 because they can hit quite high oc's but anything over 3ghz won't be noticed in games.
 

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Dualcore is better for gaming. you can get any of the E8XXX chips and it will be superb compared to the e7XXX chips. i recommend the E0 E8400 if you dont plan on OCing very much. if you want to OC alot then a E85 or E86 will suit you better.
 

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Just wondering but how can a dual core be better than a quad.
 
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Dualcore is better for gaming. you can get any of the E8XXX chips and it will be superb compared to the e7XXX chips. i recommend the E0 E8400 if you dont plan on OCing very much. if you want to OC alot then a E85 or E86 will suit you better.

At the same clock they perform the same.
 

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i was just saying that the E85 and E86 can OC easier. i didnt say they were better at the same speed. if he plans on only a mild OC then the E84 is just as good as an E86 but if your going for max OC like me then a E86 is better.

i never said the dual is better than a quad but i will say that not many games make use of quads yet and a dualcore with 6m L2 would be faster than a q6XXX chip with only 4m L2 per core even though it totals to 8mb. a 45nm quad would be suitable but not needed.
 

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thanks for your replies but as DrPepper said how can dual core be better than a quad core? i will be mutlitasking as i will be using iTunes, running virus software in the background, going on the internet and using IM. so would the quad be better in that case? but as you have said above the dual is better for gaming but i wont be overclocking.
 

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doesnt the q6600 have more cache than a e7200 though? sorry for the double post
 

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for what you are doing I'd still say go with the dualcore. if your gonna have firefox browsing the net while you re-encode a dvd, and watch a movie while editing photos in photoshop then i'd say the quad would be better.

q66 has 4m L2 per core x 2

e72 has 3m L2
 
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If your gaming go for the E7200 or even better, a E8500. Idk where you live but here the Q6600 is the same price as a E8500. And a good motherboard to pair them up with would be a ASUS P5Q-Pro P45 board :)

^I agree
Also I own a e7200 which runs at a stable 3.6GHz if I notch up the volage a bit higher then it runs 3.8GHz.
Many others have it overclocked to 4GHz and higher.

There are not many games yet that can take full advantage of a quadcore cpu.

But a quadcore is a powerful cpu in running multiple applications at the same time
 

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The q66 has 8mb L2 Cache in total. Even if the e7200 has more cache (i'm not sure) the quad does have another 2 cores.
 

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i run a e72 in my main rig and it does a fine job of anything i throw at it.

i have PCed it to 4.37ghz without a hitch.
 

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I run my quad at stock instead of 3.8 now because there wasn't an increase in fps during games.
 

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quads also use more power than any 45nm chip therefore they have more heat. just something to take into consideration.
 
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I think you should stick with your current E6600 and put the money towards a better graphics card. A q6600 vs an e6600 would yield you much difference at all unless you're video encoding and heavily multitasking.

I suggest you just get a better card like the 4870/4850 because that will get you much higher performance in games.

Also I would invest the left over money in buying a CPU cooler and research overclocking because you can get a MASSIVE free performance boost from it, even if you just go from 2.4ghz to 3ghz.
 

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quads also use more power than any 45nm chip therefore they have more heat. just something to take into consideration.

That is true.
 

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I think you should stick with your current E6600 and put the money towards a better graphics card. A q6600 vs an e6600 would yield you much difference at all unless you're video encoding and heavily multitasking.

I suggest you just get a better card like the 4870/4850 because that will get you much higher performance in games.

Also I would invest the left over money in buying a CPU cooler and research overclocking because you can get a MASSIVE free performance boost from it, even if you just go from 2.4ghz to 3ghz.


i agree. a 4850 or better yet a 4870 will make a huge difference in your computer and can be found for under $225.
 

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I third that 4850 or 4870.
 

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my e7200 + 4850 can play crysis warhead pretty nicely on my 24" LCD no prob (if that will help convince you any).
 

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well - one big advantage quads have over dualies . . . if you do a lot of video/audio rendering, or work along those lines, a quad core can breeze through the workload much quicker than a dual could. When it comes down to CPU-related rendering and filtering, the more cores, the better.

The reason we don't see much FPS boost in games is that most games are optimized for two or three cores at the most. I can only think of a few games that can make use of all 4 cores properly . . .

but, it's a bit of future proofing as well. Considering how long CPUs last nowadays, a quad core could easily hold you over for (estimating here) 4-5 years. We don't have that many programs that can make use of 4 cores properly, but more and more programs are slowly hitting the market that can.


Quads can also clock pretty high - but it requires a lot more work than with a dual. Also, as Dan pointed out, they produce more heat as well. In CPU-heavy workloads, OCed, compared to dual-cores, quads trump out. Most duals can't even keep pace with mild OCed quads when looking at just CPU-heavy benchmarks. Game benchmarks, though, are a different story, and duals look better here. Mostly, as I mentioned earlier, most games aren't optimized for 4 cores yet.
 

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i have both systems q6600/e7200 and they are both clocked at 3.2ghz 24/7 ,not much difference tbh altho some games tend to feel a bit smoother on the quad based pc ,altho that could also be attributed to more ram :)

i do a fair bit of video converting and obviously the quad pc is a lot faster at it,as mentioned many times above get the 1 u think suits your needs the most.
 

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thanks but i am using dell to make my computer as this is the easiest and quickest way for a pc for me so i need to choose one or the other. the reason i said i would get a 4670 was becuase that doesnt need any extra power ables and i am not sure the dell will have the power cables for the higher graphics cards like the 4870
 

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if you're getting a Dell get the q6600.

also you can change the power supply in the Dell very easily and drop w/e vid card you want inside. i know i did it last year to a friend of mines pc. its easy

ok i said get the q6600 but i'm not aware of performance vs the e7200 at stock speeds. because you won't be overclocking on a Dell. if you're doing a lot of multi tasking / video encoding and stuff like that...q6600. if not, e7200

i suppose

however your biggest priority is not letting the Dell limit your gaming. so drop a power supply in and you'll be good for any vid card you like. if you don't want to do that you should be able to get away with an nvidia 9600GSO or even an 8800GT on the stock Dell psu

also, the q6600 won't feel much different then your e6600 in regular day to day desktop use. the q6600 is essentially two e6600's joined at the hip
 

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he already has a dell from what i gather. get a 4850, they come with a power cable adapter and most newer dells have the pci-e connector anyway so you should be fine. i would keep the e6600 as it would be on a similar level as the e72 and a q66 wont benefit you much from what i can tell.
 
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