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Video Editing PC For Under $700 With Rebates

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So I'm in need of help making a video editing computer for a friend (with light gaming capabilities) for under $700 with rebates. He doesn't want to overclock it and the only thing that is worth reusing from what he has is a terabyte seagate drive. Here's what i was thinking and what questions i have.

CPU:From what I've seen quad core is a must for a good video editing pc and intel is probably the way to go. I was thinking between the q6600 and q8200; leaning towards the q8200 because it seems to be a few percent faster but also $10 cheaper form newegg (where i plan on buying all my parts).

RAM: At least 4gb seems to be the way to go--with upgrading to more an option later if needed (would it be needed)? I was thinking 2 2gb modules running at 800mhz but was wondering if it's worth the extra money to go with 1066 (i know, i know there are probably a million posts on this but I'm still looking for bar graph-here's the answer results for video editing)

GPU: Not sure what to do here since the best answer seems for this project seems to be cut the gpu to the bare minimum and upgrade later (but needs to be able to run UT2004 at 1280*1024). I've been going between using on board graphics (is it fast enough yet for ut2004?) or an 8600gts ($40 with rebate).

Mobo: Again thinking about spending less here since he doesn't have much interest in overclocking, esata, hdmi out, optical out, or any of those advanced features. Looking at ECS P45T-A because RAID is a possibility for this system.

Case + PSU: Obviously a good quality psu and decent case. No need for flash here, although it's not frowned upon, but needs to be a atx case for storage. Rubber grommets for hard drives is a plus-but not necessary so i was looking at Rosewill R5601 or a Cooler Mast Centurion. PSU wise, it needs to be fast enough to have around 5 hard drives, 3 dvd/cd drives, 1 or 2 6-pin gpu power cords, and probably under $60 with rebate. Looking at OCZ StealthXStream OCZ500SXS 500watt.

OS: Pretty much has to be 64-bit for upgrading ram purposes and i've heard xp 64-bit it atrocious so vista is ok with him. Probably going to go with home premium oem.

HDDs: Thinking we'll use his terabyte drive and install vista on that then upgrade him to a raid 0 array with some cheap 250's later down the road-or is it more important to get raid 0 now(because i know photo editing loves raid 0, so it would make since video editing does). As for redundancy it would be nice but he's pretty good at backing up stuff, but raid 5 is a great possibility for him.

Optical Drives: Although a blu-ray burner may be sweet it's gotta be thrown out for the moment due to cost so I'm thinking a basic sata dvd/cd read and burn everything drive with lightscribe-whatever shows up on sale and is good quality.

Last minute ideas/problems:
Will 1066 ram work ok with the 1333fsb of the mobo/cpu?\

There is an hdtv in the next room from this computer (about 25 feet) and we where thinking about eventually getting a blu-ray player, netflix renting w/ blu-ray, a ati 3 series or 4 series with hdmi via converter or built in, and a long hdmi cable with powered extender to save him money from getting a blu-ray player and give him the ability to put movies on his hard drives on send them right to the pc. Is this a good idea or would wireless be a better option (we're worried about the signal of an hdmi cable over 25-30 feet).

Lastly, i know that gpu's are starting to do some video encoding, photo editing, and possibly video editing. Can anyone recommend a good quad core supported, gpu accelerated video editor (cost not a factor here..don't ask why). Pinnacle liquid maybe?

OK, so if you got through reading all of this is appreciate your time and would love to hear tips, ideas, or anything else helpful you can share.
 

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I would recommend a Xeon X3220 over a Q6600, it might be a little more expensive but my X3220 clocks up better and does it on a better voltage. I replaced my dieing Q6600 with a X3220, and ive been happy, especially since ive heard the newer Q6600's don't clock up like the older ones did.

And trust me clocking that CPU up will help in editing times by alot.
 
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I would honestly recommend a Biostar board over ECS. You'll pay about the same but biostar is just a much better company and he'll probably get more for his money.
 
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Whatever you get him, don't forget that consumer video editing started to get big during the Pentium II era. Any speed quad-core today laughs at SD video and works HD level video fairly well.

If he had to edit/encode hours of HD footage everyday then I'd start to get nit picky about the parts. Though if he did that, I'd expect that he's getting paid enough to get a monster video editor :)

With the numerous variables involved (video res, codecs used, software used to edit, output format/medium) all I can say right now is that a good all-around gamer box makes for a good all-around video box as well.
 

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He wishes to not overclock at all? Not even in the future? If that's the case go with maybe a Phenom 9850 setup. At stock clocks it's really not much slower performance wise against a q6600/q8200. Also you will have more of a budget for a nice board cause they tend to be a little bit cheaper for the features you get.
 

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I would recommend a Xeon X3220 over a Q6600, it might be a little more expensive but my X3220 clocks up better and does it on a better voltage. I replaced my dieing Q6600 with a X3220, and ive been happy, especially since I've heard the newer Q6600's don't clock up like the older ones did.

And trust me clocking that CPU up will help in editing times by alot.

I've thought about using a server cpu before but it was at least $20 more for the same clock speed-and unless video editing programs are more optimized for server cpu's rather than desktops then it would be the same performance without overclocking right? I'm trying to convince him to overclock, we'll see how it goes but i don't think i'll be able to suede him to the OC club.

As for getting a biostar motherboard i have never built a pc with their motherboards, but i know that they make some good overclocking mobos. If he doesn't plan on overclocking i can skimp on the motherboard-right? I mean other than getting a good stable motherboard with just same basic features, what else would i need?

By the way, even though the budget is $700 with rebate i'd like it to be low as possible (i currently have a config through newegg that's slightly under $600 with rebate).

Thanks for your replies and keep em coming!
 

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Well he was gong on about how it would need to edit some kind of avsomethinghd files that his 2ghz Pentium 4 craps out on. I think he wants a quad core dream editing system for under 6 or 7 hundred dollars with some slight gaming capabilities.
 

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Oh ok! Well ditch teh 500GB drive in there and up it to a Phenom 9950 if needed.
 

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Hmm on tomshardware it shows the e8400 outperforming the phenom 9950 in recode (which it quad core supported-right)?
 

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Link please if you dont mind. :)
 

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Then again it's the same price as a q6600...I'm not going to get this topic closed by replying too much too fast am i?
 

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Not at all, we are here to help. What's same price as a q66?
 

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With the board in the wish list you also have the ability to up to a Phenom 2 if wanted/needed. Just a little something to add in. ;)
 

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Oh yeah that's right-are there any "leaks" on phenom 2's performance?
 

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Ut2004 or do you mean ut2008-Unreal tournament 3.
 

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Well he doesn't play anything at the moment faster than unreal 2004, not unreal 3. He'll want at least maxed out graphics at 1280*1024 (i know not very high requirements) so most dx10 gpu's with gddr3 ram should work.
 

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Well he was gong on about how it would need to edit some kind of avsomethinghd files that his 2ghz Pentium 4 craps out on. I think he wants a quad core dream editing system for under 6 or 7 hundred dollars with some slight gaming capabilities.

AVCHD perhaps?

I edit AVCHD (1440x1080, 1920x1080) with Premiere Pro CS4 (previous versions do not support it without plug-in). Does a good job on my Q6600. Makes me want dual-quad Xeons, but I have to stick to a budget as well ;)
 

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AVCHD sounds right-thanks! Now I heard there are some video editors that use gpu acceleration, anyone ever used any of these (i.e. pinnacle liquid I think).
 

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AVCHD sounds right-thanks! Now I heard there are some video editors that use gpu acceleration, anyone ever used any of these (i.e. pinnacle liquid I think).

Speaking of which HD4k's have that new AMD stream technology.
 
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