System build, Do you think it will be good?

[JrRacinFan]

more easy. JrRacinFan and Shadowfold bet that his will or wont support pII out of the box.
The bet: 15 dollars thru paypal

DO IT PLEASE, BE HONORABLE PERSON

Not willing, odds are is that it is moreso to support it due to the age of the chipset being recent. My words are based upon "what ifs", always base myself upon a scenario. Like always expecting the worse to happen because that's just my darn luck LOL.

Also is it fine to use 2 diff types of ram at the same time? that's the only reason i put that type of ram is because i already have 2 of it.

I wouldn't try it.

 

[Cooldog]

more easy. JrRacinFan and Shadowfold bet that his will or wont support pII out of the box.
The bet: 15 dollars thru paypal

DO IT PLEASE, BE HONORABLE PERSON

Also don't start making bets before i buy them, insted send me the $$ to buy a new video card and Ram

 

[LittleLizard]

Also is it fine to use 2 diff types of ram at the same time? that's the only reason i put that type of ram is because i already have 2 of it.

please specify, if u mean 2 different brands, is ok as long as they have same latencies and speed (check my system spec)

if u say about different speeds or timings, then get the one better and put at the same speed that the other has, then put the first one and u are done

 

[Cooldog]

please specify, if u mean 2 different brands, is ok as long as they have same latencies and speed (check my system spec)

oh ok, ya i meant 2 different brands

 

[LittleLizard]

oh ok, ya i meant 2 different brands

there is no problem as long as they have same speeds and timings

 

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RECOMMENDED SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS:
3.0 GHz Intel or equivalent AMD processor or better
1 GB RAM or better
8 GB available hard drive space
256 MB video RAM, with DirectX 9 Vertex Shader / Pixel Shader 2.0 support (Nvidia 6800 or better)
Internet connection with Cable/DSL speeds

Note: recommended specifications provide optimal experience for single player and up to 4 player/medium size map multipla

Well what I found on this game is it does like quad cores but what I also noticed is you will want a better video card based on what I have seen or you will still be very low FPS.
I should have researched it a little more and I would suggest reading this article and you will see you need a video card to get better FPS.


So again I say you may want to try a different route.
Same setup as before but use this chip Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Look for combo deals etc and you will have a jump on that VGA card. Notice this chip performs virtually identical to the one you selected in the chart below.
Here is the whole article I got the chart from.

 

[LittleLizard]

Well what I found on this game is it does like quad cores but what I also noticed is you will want a better video card based on what I have seen or you will still be very low FPS.
I should have researched it a little more and I would suggest reading this article and you will see you need a video card to get better FPS.


So again I say you may want to try a different route.
Same setup as before but use this chip Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Look for combo deals etc and you will have a jump on that VGA card. Notice this chip performs virtually identical to the one you selected in the chart below.
Here is the whole article I got the chart from.

rule nº1 of gaming pc: the games is 99% limited by the videocard

 

[Cooldog]

I'm not very good with theses kinds of Video cards, so How good is a ATI Radeon HD 3300?
And according to what i read ATI would be a better video card for it. So whats a good but cheap one that would work? (note that i have NEVER used ATI before)

So if I Get a Intel possessor, what would be a good motherboard to also get?

Also as i said in a above post that the game doesn't support more then 2 cores, but someone make a mod that you start before you play and it will have it use how many core you want out of how many you have the game use.

 

[LittleLizard]

1 - HD3300 IS AN ONBOARD VIDEO. 2 - a good ati for the price are the 4670 and the 4830, prices are 80 for the first, 110 for the latter. Also, we said that the phenom 2 if future proof because in the future more and more games will be optimized for 4 cores

 

[Cooldog]

Its less for the possessor and get a new video card, or The Possessor i was going to get and no video card. And when i looked, for a intel 3.0 GHz x4 was $500 when the 3.0 Ghz x4 AMD was about $300

 

[Cooldog]

OK, so is it Get the phenom II x4 and the Motherboard or get a diff ones and also get a video card?

Also i don't mind playing the game on med settings, as long as i don't start lagging the game within 20 min.

 

[r9]

I`m not to sure about Biostar but because if the budget it saves some money. And why every one is buying 940 and no interest in 920 one it saves money and I guess that will max out the same as 940 at 3.8 GHz. 8600GT provable plays all games resonable well on lower resolutions but HD4830 wont hurt.

 

[Altered]

Its less for the possessor and get a new video card, or The Possessor i was going to get and no video card. And when i looked, for a intel 3.0 GHz x4 was $500 when the 3.0 Ghz x4 AMD was about $300

I think your getting confused. No matter what the game was designed for games like power especially the newer ones. The recommended CPU was a 3.0 it doesn't say single core or dual or quad. If I was betting it was single but lets just say they meant dual core. That means in reality thats like a 6.0MHz chip Two cores of 3.0 each = 6.0 . Thats really simplifying it but I'm trying to show you that a 2.4 quad core as I listed is roughly a 9.6MHz chip. Unless that Hardware Performance Guide that said

numbers went even higher when we moved to quad-core.

and Toms Hardware are both wrong that game uses the Quad Core chip quite well without mention of a hack to do it. That chip is extremely powerful look at the reviews on newegg by users over 2700 reviews and I will bet you 75% are enthusiast gaming with them and happy doing it. Look at the chart I posted comparing the nearly $300.00 chip you have picked and the one I listed. Your video card is going to make more of a difference than you will ever see with either of those 2 CPUs. They are almost identical in that game with the exception of brand based on the Toms hardware chart. The lifespan is not a issue. Most PCs lifespan for gaming is 3 yrs give or take a year or so as games get more intense and the CPU ages.
Here is one Combo Deal that is very reasonable.
Depending on the resolution and quality settings either CPU the Phenom II x4 or the Q6600 are still not going to get you out of the low 20fps with your card based on the carts I looked at for that game. PCs are like racing engines you can put the most expensive heads and killer block piston combo possible but pick the wrong cam and its junk. I'm just trying to show you a killer CPU and motherboard aren't worth squat if your video card is keeping you at 20fps. This being a budget build you cant spend 80% of the funds on one piece and expect to have a well balanced system.

 

[LittleLizard]

I think your getting confused. No matter what the game was designed for games like power especially the newer ones. The recommended CPU was a 3.0 it doesn't say single core or dual or quad. If I was betting it was single but lets just say they meant dual core. That means in reality thats like a 6.0MHz chip Two cores of 3.0 each = 6.0 . Thats really simplifying it but I'm trying to show you that a 2.4 quad core as I listed is roughly a 9.6MHz chip. Unless that Hardware Performance Guide that said and Toms Hardware are both wrong that game uses the Quad Core chip quite well without mention of a hack to do it. That chip is extremely powerful look at the reviews on newegg by users over 2700 reviews and I will bet you 75% are enthusiast gaming with them and happy doing it. Look at the chart I posted comparing the nearly $300.00 chip you have picked and the one I listed. Your video card is going to make more of a difference than you will ever see with either of those 2 CPUs. They are almost identical in that game with the exception of brand based on the Toms hardware chart. The lifespan is not a issue. Most PCs lifespan for gaming is 3 yrs give or take a year or so as games get more intense and the CPU ages.
Here is one Combo Deal that is very reasonable.
Depending on the resolution and quality settings either CPU the Phenom II x4 or the Q6600 are still not going to get you out of the low 20fps with your card based on the carts I looked at for that game. PCs are like racing engines you can put the most expensive heads and killer block piston combo possible but pick the wrong cam and its junk. I'm just trying to show you a killer CPU and motherboard aren't worth squat if your video card is keeping you at 20fps. This being a budget build you cant spend 80% of the funds on one piece and expect to have a well balanced system.

you are right, but he choose that combo because he already had a am2 pc and wants to continue like that, but isnt a bad idea to go for a q6600 and that mobo. it will get u same perfomance in games BUT u will have 100 more dollars

 

[Cooldog]

I think your getting confused. No matter what the game was designed for games like power especially the newer ones. The recommended CPU was a 3.0 it doesn't say single core or dual or quad. If I was betting it was single but lets just say they meant dual core. That means in reality thats like a 6.0MHz chip Two cores of 3.0 each = 6.0 . Thats really simplifying it but I'm trying to show you that a 2.4 quad core as I listed is roughly a 9.6MHz chip. Unless that Hardware Performance Guide that said and Toms Hardware are both wrong that game uses the Quad Core chip quite well without mention of a hack to do it. That chip is extremely powerful look at the reviews on newegg by users over 2700 reviews and I will bet you 75% are enthusiast gaming with them and happy doing it. Look at the chart I posted comparing the nearly $300.00 chip you have picked and the one I listed. Your video card is going to make more of a difference than you will ever see with either of those 2 CPUs. They are almost identical in that game with the exception of brand based on the Toms hardware chart. The lifespan is not a issue. Most PCs lifespan for gaming is 3 yrs give or take a year or so as games get more intense and the CPU ages.
Here is one Combo Deal that is very reasonable.
Depending on the resolution and quality settings either CPU the Phenom II x4 or the Q6600 are still not going to get you out of the low 20fps with your card based on the carts I looked at for that game. PCs are like racing engines you can put the most expensive heads and killer block piston combo possible but pick the wrong cam and its junk. I'm just trying to show you a killer CPU and motherboard aren't worth squat if your video card is keeping you at 20fps. This being a budget build you cant spend 80% of the funds on one piece and expect to have a well balanced system.

On the motherboard in the combo deal, it has the 24 power spot which i have, then the 8 power slot that i don't, i have a 4 and 6 power connectors other then the 24. I Got the Manuel and it said only use 1,2,5,6 spot if you have a 4, will that change anything not using a 8 one?

 

[Altered]

you are right, but he choose that combo because he already had a am2 pc and wants to continue like that, but isnt a bad idea to go for a q6600 and that mobo. it will get u same perfomance in games BUT u will have 100 more dollars

I see your point about he wants to continue AMD and thats kewl. But since he stated he would consider change and he didnt want to have low fps I was just trying to help the fella get the best bang for his dollar. I have and will again run a AMD chip so its not that I am a fanboy its just $ vs performance in game. That particular setup he picked was not going to be the same performance for him in game.
AMD Phenom II X4 940,
BIOSTAR TFORCE TA790GX A2+ AM2+,
GIGABYTE GeForce 8600 GT 512MB 128-bit
VS
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600,
BIOSTAR TForce TP45HP,
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit
All you have to do is pick what will game better?
Back to JrRacinFan analogy we are building our race cars. He picked a killer engine a nice tranny and put it in a dumptruck. I picked a killer engine a nice tranny and put it in a Corvette.

Even you said

rule nº1 of gaming pc: the games is 99% limited by the videocard

and that 3870 crushes the 8600GT.

And here is the card so you wont have $100.00 left over but you should be able to play quite smoothly.
SAPPHIRE 100225L Radeon HD 3870

 

[Altered]

On the motherboard in the combo deal, it has the 24 power spot which i have, then the 8 power slot that i don't, i have a 4 and 6 power connectors other then the 24. I Got the Manuel and it said only use 1,2,5,6 spot if you have a 4, will that change anything not using a 8 one?

I have never had a issue doing that and I have had to several times on older machines. Just make sure to locate the 1,2,5,6 of the socket and do as per instructions. I never noticed a loss of performance on the ones I have done.

Sorry about the dump truck it was all I could think of at the moment. No disrespect intended.

 

[Cooldog]

Sorry about the dump truck it was all I could think of at the moment. No disrespect intended.

It is true if it slows my game down

I think ill get that combo but ill have to wait for the Video card tell i get more $$. so ill be using my "dump truck" for now.

 

[Cooldog]

what is Hyper-Threading Support and does it matter?

 

[LittleLizard]

what is Hyper-Threading Support and does it matter?

hyper threading is a feature used on the core i7 and older pentium 4 (not the core 2 series).

it allows to use more efficiently the unused clocks and thus, improving multitasking by creating a logical additional core. if a motherboard says that support it is because it support the old pentium 4 ht

 

[Cooldog]

Iv been thinking and i don't need a quad, so do you think that http://www.newegg.com/product/produ...9115036&guid=b99c9117afce4919b064e158c3cbfb5d would be a good possessor to buy?

 

[Cooldog]

Whats Diff bettwen DDR2 and DDR3 and would this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145590 (what i already have) work with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182162 (what i don't have) ?

 

[LittleLizard]

Iv been thinking and i don't need a quad, so do you think that http://www.newegg.com/product/produ...9115036&guid=b99c9117afce4919b064e158c3cbfb5d would be a good possessor to buy?

yes, it would be a good processor as is fast and cool but is not futureproof because in a year or two, most games will be optimized for quad cores

Whats Diff bettwen DDR2 and DDR3 and would this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145590 (what i already have) work with this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182162 (what i don't have) ?

ddr2 is slower than ddr3. ddr2 limits are 1200mhz and ddr3 are 2100 and going up.

yes, that ram will work on that mobo, but that mobo is crap, instead, get a biostar tp45 hp, is way better at the same price http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138123

 

[JrRacinFan]

I have used an e8500 beforehand and I will be honest with you, save yourself $100 and go with an e5200.

Also:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813136060

I know I am biased but its a very very nice board.

 

[JrRacinFan]

Going by your power supply's specs:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102803

You will be ok with that. Oh also the card may not be overkill for your monitor either.