Does Win 7 Make Vista Obsolete?

[adcx64]

would you call vista obsolete since 7 is coming in december??
same with windows server 2008 and WS 2008 R2??

 

[Marineborn]

i actially like vista ultimate i have no problems with it! *shrugs* oh well

 

[farlex85]

would you call vista obsolete since 7 is coming in december??
same with windows server 2008 and WS 2008 R2??

How can something be obsolete if it's still the primary iteration? It'll be obsolete in a couple of years sure. If your contemplating building a pc right now there really isn't a whole lot of options though, vista is the way to go.

 

[Kursah]

would you call vista obsolete since 7 is coming in december??
same with windows server 2008 and WS 2008 R2??

Hell no Vista isn't obselete, I use Ultimate x64, and I would absolutely not go back to XP (especially pro x64...)...granted part of that may be due to my somewhat new-ish hardware, dunno, but my Vista experience over the last year has been great. I really did enjoy Windows 7, and being familiar with Vista, 7 isn't too different. So seeing that, I do like what 7 offers, and I really think that 7 could be more of a service pack than a complete new OS. Vista Glass is there, the sidebar stuff, the icons, animations, etc, sure there's a couple new things here and there, and it does seem to be snappier than Vista, but really to me I think Vista SP2 would be better off and making 7 something truly substantial in the sense of something more unique. Consider 7 what Vista should have been before they wanted to release it sooner, which is fine by me. I am perfectly content until waiting for the release of 7, hell I might even wait. Depends on how gaming support truly is, especially from vendors and other mfg's, not necessarily MS. Hopefully Evenbalance has a PB update for all versions to support 7 when it's released.

Vista get's a hard knock, take it or leave it, Vista is the direction that MS has gone and is continuing on, it's the base for 7, and I'm sure there will be parts of it in further MS OS iterations. At the end of the day, as long as you're happy with what you have now, it doesn't really matter imo.

 

[lemonadesoda]

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[farlex85]

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[DRDNA]

My opinion about it being obsolete because of windows 7 well I doubt it. I think Vista was more about copy right protection and stealing HD content form Hollywood(my personal opinion here) ...I think Windows 7 is the lack of that and a focus on keeping the good of Vista and making it a bit less bloated and more corporation friendly for big business.

 

[Thermopylae_480]

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[Triprift]

Another one in the negatory if Vista had not moved on from its inital release then yeah i think it would have been redundant by now. Vista has mutured nicely with windows update and sp1 overall i rekon Vista still has abit of life left in it yet.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Since using Windows 7 x64 beta, i cannot make myself go back to Vista. If it wasnt for my school work lacking support for Win7, I woudlnt have a dual boot with Vista at all and Win7 would be my primary OS.

Windows 7 isnt going to take long to shove out the door either because Microsoft doesnt want Win7 getting a bad rap like Vista did. I think that is why they dont promote Vista like they should. They are shoving W7 out the door sure, but they are doing it right the first time unlike what they did with Vista. Ill say this though. In order to have what we have with Windows 7, a release like Vista did need to be released. And no im not a Vista hater. I was one of the biggest Vista promoters you could find. Ive been using Vista since RC2 24/7 use until W7 was released publicly.

 

[Polarman]

would you call vista obsolete since 7 is coming in december??
same with windows server 2008 and WS 2008 R2??

Unlikely. Considering SP2 & IE8 for Vista around the corner.

 

[Error 404]

Once Windows 7 comes out, it'll probably be the first OS from MS I'd buy with my own money, and I'd be happy to buy it.
I wonder how many people will still be using XP in four or five years from now...

 

[adcx64]

what do you thik about windows server 2008 and 2008 rc2

 

[Triprift]

Once Windows 7 comes out, it'll probably be the first OS from MS I'd buy with my own money, and I'd be happy to buy it.
I wonder how many people will still be using XP in four or five years from now...

It depends if 7 is a winner then id say none if its not then a few more petitions would mean it would most likely still be going strong.

 

[Chryonn]

you have to wonder though: why is MS putting out another OS so soon after Vista. XP was released in 2001? Vista released in....my memory is hazy....2006? Win7, mid 2009. my own opinion: MS should've waited until Win7 to release Win7 (which wouldn't be called Win7)

 

[farlex85]

you have to wonder though: why is MS putting out another OS so soon after Vista. XP was released in 2001? Vista released in....my memory is hazy....2006? Win7, mid 2009. my own opinion: MS should've waited until Win7 to release Win7 (which wouldn't be called Win7)

But wasn't there only 2 years between Windows 2000 and XP. And 98 before, and 95, not too big of a space there. I think XP was by far the longest running OS. Microsoft has probably realized that no matter what they do at this point in some ways Vista is commercially unrecoverable, and the best answer is a new shiny coat of paint w/ a new non-vista name: 7.

 

[Triprift]

Ms imo has taken to heart the negative response to Vista particularly with so many not moving from XP. I personally think Vista is a good os but alot of ppl dont and that would be a big concern for ms. I just hope they dont bring out 7 early with that petition going and stick to the late this year release time.

 

[iamollie]

the reason windows 7 is out so soon is because of all the bad press windows vista got when it was released.
The people wanted a platform as stable as Xp when they didnt get want pretty much everyone on the internet went crazy, the mac and linux fans had a field-day

windows 7 pretty much IS vista but faster and more stable and with lower spec req.- which would make vista obsolete

 

[kiriakost]

I do not care how they call them , vista - 7 - Mickey mouse .. they will never see my hard drive.

 

[farlex85]

the reason windows 7 is out so soon is because of all the bad press windows vista got when it was released.
The people wanted a platform as stable as Xp when they didnt get want pretty much everyone on the internet went crazy, the mac and linux fans had a field-day

windows 7 pretty much IS vista but faster and more stable and with lower spec req.- which would make vista obsolete

Vista is plenty stable, more-so than XP. It just had the unfortunate task of being released when everybody loves to voice their well earned expertise all over blogs and such. XP was pretty unstable at first, 7 isn't that stable right now, it's an epic task to create a kernel and software to be compatible with the tremendous array of separate hardware possibilities. Had Xp been released to a similar market, it would have suffered the same condemnation. Almost always an OS like windows will be unstable at the get-go (7 will likely be the most stable windows out of the gates there has been).

 

[kiriakost]

Had Xp been released to a similar market, it would have suffered the same condemnation.

I got unlucky , to not get a legal license of Windows 2000 Pro . (Run out of stock)
So moved to XP by force .

Who cares about Vista or 7 , in my eyes Microsoft all that it cares is to make money .
And making money is not bad , but if it happens by manipulating people , by threatening people with the ridicules speeches as " Obsolete software - limited support " .

If they wish to kill XP , by the same way that they murdered Windows 2000 , go ahead Bill.
I will not follow .

 

[Kursah]

That's a fair way to look at it, really I care less about the drama in the industry as long as my stuff works, my games play and I can enjoy more often than not whatever I decide to do on my PC. The politics in the PC/software industry are just as crappy as any other industry, but I don't boycott any of their new products, granted I don't buy as many of them. An older OS like XP that's had many years of polish and fixing, will still brake down, but overall it's pretty good. I don't miss it after being on Vista and playing with 7, both of which have shown me things I do like, more entertainment. Not saying I haven't had any issues in Vista or 7, but I went back to 98SE after my first XP experience, swore never to go back...I of course did and grew to deal with XP which wasn't nearly as different as claimed. But 3 Service Packs (well at least 2), a shit-ton of updates and fixes later, along with driver support and newer hardware and XP is what I consider a good OS. Vista was rough at the start, I never messed with beta, but heard a lot of good, and for the most part yes it was, there were some issues that I didn't like dealing with, mostly because of MFG driver support, not so much MS's fault. Same with 7, though with the beta, I only had one major issue, and that would be Evenbalance's lack of 7 support with many versions of Punkbuster, but can't necessarily blame them for not wanting to support an OS still in beta when their software barely works right in the first place (imo)...that'd be a bad mix for sure.

Really I'm hoping to see fewer OS's from MS, and have them start with a really good base that can be taken up to par. But we need a modern OS, not just for support, future products and implementations, but also visually, operationally and performance-wise. 7 Impressed me on all fronts, Vista has only gotten better on those same fronts, XP well get left behind but by now imo it's something I'll use on a build for someone that doesn't know any better or has older hardware and doesn't need something newer, slap on the Zune theme to it and away it goes. My personal rigs will probably never see XP again, but I do keep a disc around just in case I change my mind!

Everyone's got an opinion for sure, but if you focus on politics, then undoubtedly it's easy to agree with Kiriakost's comment in post 21, I do agree, but yet I don't care as much...I don't mind moving on...I moved on from old hardware, I've moved on from old girl friends, I've moved on from old cars, games, homes, jobs, haircuts, clothing, pc cases, coolers, why not operating systems? If it's something worth moving onto in my eyes, then it's worth it...we're in the future folks, might as well enjoy what's out there to be had, and things will only continue to get better. There will always be a negative to every positive, but by perspective what you focus on will be all that matters. I for one can't wait for 7, and won't mind holding onto my Vista and XP discs if I find the need for them, hell I'll probably have dual boot between Vista and 7 for at least a while. As a gamer, new support, drivers, graphics, physics(x), etc getting more options and ever improving are also very important, while DX9 is still clearly the leader in new DX versions, DX10 has done some good in my eyes, NV's physx is still promising for the future, if I get a game, I want every feature turned on, I built this rig for that reason, max FPS aren't necessary as long as the gameplay is smooth, which atm is not a problem...but when it is, I'll move onto the next GPU, whether ATI or NV, no matter who is the bad guy at the time because they decided to update the GPU I'm using, give it a die shrink and clock it up or add a couple more shaders and charge an arm and a leg while stating the old card is useless...while they would be wrong, if I feel the need to upgrade, I'll do it anyways, until it meets my needs and wants. Plus, in the future I do see Linux distro's getting better and better, MS should really keep a close eye and take notes if they haven't been, when DX 9-11 implementations in Linux are done with no performance loss or even a gain, MS will have a serious problem I do believe, not world-ending, but definately a larger loss of marketshare.

 

[johnspack]

Vista is ME simple, it's so bad I still use xp64. I did dual boot with vista64, but that's been replaced with win7 64. Win7 is a clear upgrade path for me. It is still vista, but it's been fixed, and optimized, and streamlined. And will come with dx11 which hopefully will be much more useful than dx10 was.

 

[farlex85]

Vista is ME simple, it's so bad I still use xp64. I did dual boot with vista64, but that's been replaced with win7 64. Win7 is a clear upgrade path for me. It is still vista, but it's been fixed, and optimized, and streamlined. And will come with dx11 which hopefully will be much more useful than dx10 was.

7 is far less stable than vista. A tad lighter than vista but in beta. If you have a better time w/ XPx64 and 7 than you do w/ vista then your doing something wrong.

 

[LiveOrDie]

i've had a few problems with win 7 beta but it runs more than 20% better on my system than vista did, i took vista of after using the x64 beta for a week just never used vista any more lol.