vista ultimate black edition or windows 7?

laszlo · Apr 6, 2009

Supreme0verlord said:
Yeah I think disabling System Restore is kind of a dumb idea, what are you going to do if your installation get's screwed up?!

after full install you back-up all OS and whatever you have on "C" with Acronis or other program and you can restore all in about 5 min.

i never used sys restore and always is off but i have images of all installed pc by me and is the best thing ever i found.

Supreme0verlord · Apr 6, 2009

laszlo said:
after full install you back-up all OS and whatever you have on "C" with Acronis or other program and you can restore all in about 5 min.

i never used sys restore and always is off but i have images of all installed pc by me and is the best thing ever i found.

Ok but I still really don't see the point in turning it off, it's not like it takes up enormous amounts of disk space. System Restore on my current rig is only taking up a little over 700mb, so why would you want to waste a DVD or even more disk space to backup the ENTIRE OS while Sys Restore takes up very little space? And is disabling it going to make your computer faster? I highly doubt it.

alexp999 · Apr 6, 2009

I sold my copy of Vista, because I loved Win 7 so much, its my main OS now

Will definetly be pre-ordering.

Oh and in both, I turn off the following (Either through services or some other means):

Windows Defender
Widnows Security Centre
Remote Registry
Indexing (Disabling Win Search disables searching all together in Win 7)
Windows Firewall
Action Center (Win 7)
Parental Controls

AltecV1 · Apr 6, 2009

Kursah said:
If you absolutely need a new OS now, Vista x64 is the way to go, with SP1, it's fast, stable, easy to work with, I could never go back. I have used 7 beta 7000, and loved it too...it uses a lot of Vista (because it's built on vista), usues a lot of the same icons, visual themes, but is even faster, the taskbar is different (you can change it if you don't like it), though load up rocketdock.

I don't tune much in Vista, I still disable UAC, and manually set Page File to the same fixed size min/max, get rid of the recycle bin, and go. Gaming is top notch, I have drivers for all my stuff, the only program I have that I gotta run in compatability mode is HDTach, set to Xp Sp2 compatability and it works fine...never actually had that work before in XP.

If you feel you can wait, 7 should be really good and will have all the good aspects of Vista and some better polish, fit and finish. Though there is about 2X the icons in control panel, and the current beta is not supported by PunkBuster so many games like the Battlefield series, CoD4, FFoW will not work online without a PBKick error due to OS incompatability. You could always download and try the Beta, I dunno if MS is still giving out keys though. I'm not using mine though, so if you go that route PM me. The beta should be good till around August, and hopefully by then 7 will be very close to being released...but if it needs more work I hope they do delay it. Though my initial feelings of 7 were very good, I will move from Vista to 7 in the future.

Hope that helps!

do your research again

win 7 is not built on vista,its actualy built on older platform then vista!!!but it shears lots of stuff(like the looks)

Darknova · Apr 6, 2009

At the moment, Vista x64.

Win7 is nice, and it's performance is much better than XP and Vista, but there's a lot of shit you can't disable, and as of this moment Microsoft have no intention of allowing you to. (Libraries? Homegroups? Even if I "disable" them they don't go away)

They've also removed a lot of features that have caused anger in a lot of people, especially older users, such as removing the classic Start Menu, I was surprised when I saw how many people went up in arms at hearing that news.

Xternal · Apr 6, 2009

I wanted to try something different too, i chose Windows 7 Black Edition lol. I think thats a better choice for now since its free.

Hayder_Master · Apr 6, 2009

win7 with x64 bit

Error 404 · Apr 6, 2009

Might I ask why this was posted in the "Linux/BSD/Mac OSX" section? It might be prudent to have a mod move it into the general software section, unless there is a mass conspiracy and Windows is really OS X in disguise...

Basard · Apr 6, 2009

dude, i hate everything..... go windows 7 though.... it's pretty godly, i used the beta, it's wayyyy better than vista...

download the beta, you'll see..

kyle2020 · Apr 6, 2009

If your paying? 64 bit vista all the way. If your reluctant to pay - the latest build of windows 7.

Marineborn · Apr 6, 2009

the windows 7 beta is no longer available on the microsoft page, i dont know baout other places

farlex85 · Apr 6, 2009

Ultimate edition is a waste of money. Many seem to like 7 more (God knows why it's the same thing), so perhaps you will too. The important thing is it's free and won't be outdated in half a year a la vista. In other words, although vista is currently better, if your just getting antsy w/ XP I'd go w/ 7 to avoid shelling out dough.

BroBQ · Apr 6, 2009

Supreme0verlord said:
Yeah I think disabling System Restore is kind of a dumb idea, what are you going to do if your installation get's screwed up?!

Its actually not "kind of dumb"

When you first install an OS the second thing to install is anti-virus/spyware protection. Say you get a nasty virus/spyware and a restore point is created. You use system restore, and you reloaded the virus/spyware back onto the computer.

Disable as many services as you can to free up resources. The more resources available to you means better performance.

Dippyskoodlez · Apr 6, 2009

Morrison5891 said:
Its actually not "kind of dumb"

When you first install an OS the second thing to install is anti-virus/spyware protection. Say you get a nasty virus/spyware and a restore point is created. You use system restore, and you reloaded the virus/spyware back onto the computer.

Disable as many services as you can to free up resources. The more resources available to you means better performance.

I agree completely. I've never actually found a viable use for system restore.

BroBQ · Apr 6, 2009

Right... If you need to use system restore, its time to reload.

Studabaker · Apr 6, 2009

I've been able to fix failed installs and nasty virus infestations using system restore.

Wile E · Apr 6, 2009

Supreme0verlord said:
Ok but I still really don't see the point in turning it off, it's not like it takes up enormous amounts of disk space. System Restore on my current rig is only taking up a little over 700mb, so why would you want to waste a DVD or even more disk space to backup the ENTIRE OS while Sys Restore takes up very little space? And is disabling it going to make your computer faster? I highly doubt it.

It does make your computer slower when you want to install something. Besides that, it's pretty much useless anyway. It never works the way it's supposed to.

Studabaker · Apr 6, 2009

Wile E said:
It does make your computer slower when you want to install something. Besides that, it's pretty much useless anyway. It never works the way it's supposed to.

Never say never because it has worked fine for me at least 3 times. It did fail once when everything was too screwed; it all depends on how screwed things are, it's good for fixing the small screw ups though.

AsRock · Apr 6, 2009

Win 7 for sure as it's a tweaked Vista

. And sure it be much better when it's actually released.

Supreme0verlord said:
Yeah I think disabling System Restore is kind of a dumb idea, what are you going to do if your installation get's screwed up?!

I always disable it as System restore as it backs up viruses and 99% if not all virus scanners do not or cannot scan that folder.

Wile E · Apr 6, 2009

Studabaker said:
Never say never because it has worked fine for me at least 3 times. It did fail once when everything was too screwed; it all depends on how screwed things are, it's good for fixing the small screw ups though.

It worked for me 3 times as well, out of roughly 30 tries on various systems. It's a piece of garbage compared to a proper back up/imaging prog.

BroBQ · Apr 6, 2009

Install OS, drivers, tweak your settings/services, etc...

Image the drive and you have a complete back up. I use Norton Ghost to make an image and takes less then 30 minutes. Also, takes less then 30 minutes to restore.

professor · Apr 9, 2009

I parted ways with Norton/Symantec a while back. The few times in the past I used Norton to back up my drives I met with utter defeat and absolute data loss. Most notably ironic, on one occasion I [eventually, and with help] discovered that an inimical virus or horse or something had taken up residence in the exponentially growing folder containg the Ghost images - and of course Norton didn't pick up on that little item.... So, does anyone have a recommendation for an imaging/mirroring program? I do have an external 250G HD if that helps. I also have three other drives, but...

laszlo · Apr 9, 2009

professor said:
I parted ways with Norton/Symantec a while back. The few times in the past I used Norton to back up my drives I met with utter defeat and absolute data loss. Most notably ironic, on one occasion I [eventually, and with help] discovered that an inimical virus or horse or something had taken up residence in the exponentially growing folder containg the Ghost images - and of course Norton didn't pick up on that little item.... So, does anyone have a recommendation for an imaging/mirroring program? I do have an external 250G HD if that helps. I also have three other drives, but...

Acronis true image

Polarman · Apr 9, 2009

You can try out Vista for a month. Just get it from a friend install it without putting the key to try it out for 30 days (is itt 30 days? not sure). Anyway then try out 7 for a month. Then you can make a decision.

P0w3r3dUp · Apr 10, 2009

vista x64
i dont like 7 ew

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