Liquid Cooling purchase... Am i missing something?

[Binge]

ja the motherboard shouldn't need as much as a CPU or GPU.

 

[douglatins]

ja the motherboard shouldn't need as much as a CPU or GPU.

The price diffence between a 2 to a 3 is nothing. But about dual loop do i need new pumps res etc? Or the loss in pressure is not significant

 

[phanbuey]

yes... which is why I say spend $4.00 on a hiper 80mm fan and point it at your NB... Voila.

 

[douglatins]

yes... which is why I say spend $4.00 on a hiper 80mm fan and point it at your NB... Voila.

What about 2 pumps? and no dual loop

 

[phanbuey]

What about 2 pumps? and no dual loop

that would work too. Just remember that if you are using the 355, then 3/8" tubing is fine... but if you go with the 655 then your tubing won't fit.

 

[douglatins]

that would work too. Just remember that if you are using the 355, then 3/8" tubing is fine... but if you go with the 655 then your tubing won't fit.

Yes i just contacted the retailer about new 1/2

 

[douglatins]

pump-http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/swiftechmcp355.html
res top-http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/xsacreforlad.html
top-http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/ekwaekx.html

the top change actually does a lot. I had a D5 and it could not compare to the tiny pump with a top change.

Video- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C261buP_rbo

As for the 9x radiator... the 295 overclocked throws off more heat than my i7. My i7 can throw off over 320W of heat up to 380W when doing a high overclock... so to handle 800-900W of heat I wanted a huge radiator. My PA 120.3 could handle the i7 on it's own, but I would need to buy another one or a 4x120 rad just for the 295. It's two GPUs and they make a LOT of heat. You'll get lower temps with water but after a while a radiator that will not return the water temperature to ambient before returning it to the loop will just increase in temperature over time. It's a while, but it tends to happen like that.

In koolance website they rate their triple rad kit with rated 1000W of heat dissipation, so why does a quadone doesnt cut it? Only if Koolance is understating the heat

 

[Binge]

dual pumps won't give you the kind of head pressure you'll need for a single loop with this many components... but I guess it won't suck >.>

This is not hard to rationalize... just get two DDC 3.2s with xspc res tops. there you have the res and the top for the pump in the same package. Two separate loops and you don't spend extra on a more expensive res for each loop and you have better temps.

 

[douglatins]

dual pumps won't give you the kind of head pressure you'll need for a single loop with this many components... but I guess it won't suck >.>

This is not hard to rationalize... just get two DDC 3.2s with xspc res tops. there you have the res and the top for the pump in the same package. Two separate loops and you don't spend extra on a more expensive res for each loop and you have better temps.

But i still need another rad right? Another thing the MCP355 has half the LPH as the MCP655, isnt a lot weaker?

 

[Binge]

But i still need another rad right? Another thing the MCP355 has half the LPH as the MCP655, isnt a lot weaker?

You'd think but look at the head pressure. That is what is important in a closed loop. In something that opens out to a fish tank. The LPH is measured that way and not in a closed loop. Head pressure is how far the pump will carry the water through a length of tubing without any restriction at the specified flow rate.

P.S. Of course you'll need another rad for another loop unless you look into using manifolds. This is why I recommend you should have experience with plumbing

 

[douglatins]

You'd think but look at the head pressure. That is what is important in a closed loop. In something that opens out to a fish tank. The LPH is measured that way and not in a closed loop. Head pressure is how far the pump will carry the water through a length of tubing without any restriction at the specified flow rate.

P.S. Of course you'll need another rad for another loop unless you look into using manifolds. This is why I recommend you should have experience with plumbing

I thought the head pressure difference was odd too, i would expect that the 655 would have higher

 

[Binge]

Yes well you know how I recommended the top change? Those top changes will also increase the head pressure of the pump. XSPC res top and EK x-top rev 2 are the best.

 

[douglatins]

Yes well you know how I recommended the top change? Those top changes will also increase the head pressure of the pump. XSPC res top and EK x-top rev 2 are the best.

Already contacted my retailer about changes... with the new rad.. single, double or triple for the mobo stuff

 

[Waterlogged]

In koolance website they rate their triple rad kit with rated 1000W of heat dissipation, so why does a quadone doesnt cut it? Only if Koolance is understating the heat

The last time Koolance posted their testing method, they said something about using the same Korean lab as the Korean automotive industry uses...and the same 5000 CFM fan and monitoring equipment, which doesn't go anywhere low enough to get proper measurements. They also use a much higher delta temp than most reviewers do, something like 25°C. Take their testing and results with a horse sized grain of salt.

 

[Binge]

You could do with a double easy.

 

[douglatins]

The last time Koolance posted their testing method, they said something about using the same Korean lab as the Korean automotive industry uses...and the same 5000 CFM fan and monitoring equipment, which doesn't go anywhere low enough to get proper measurements. They also use a much higher delta temp than most reviewers do, something like 25°C. Take their testing and results with a horse sized grain of salt.

Kudos for the new user

 

[douglatins]

Ok i will update the invoice in the first page shortly, sucks that will go $++

 

[douglatins]

You could do with a double easy.

Then the quad one will do for i7 + 295? without overkill of course. Or maybe get a GTX560?

 

[computertechy]

A separate loop means another pump and reservoir? and i think a dual rad would be enought for mobo components right?

BEAT ME TO IT!!!

im soo bored!!

 

[computertechy]

Then the quad one will do for i7 + 295? without overkill of course. Or maybe get a GTX560?

a quad will do fine with some good fans

 

[Binge]

a quad will do fine with some good fans

I call bullshittery. the 295 is 2xgpu + 1 i7 cpu = just under or greater than 700W of heat. Did you skim my earlier posts? Like I said I have only been satisfied with my 9x120 rad, and I think 140mm rads are probably the way to go. A 2x140mm rad gets competing numbers with a 120.3 so 2-3x140mm is a beefy rad but even then still not enough for both a 295 and i7 overclocked. STOCK you could do fine with a quad radiator.

 

[computertechy]

ello ello, easy bitch!!!

"STOCK you could do fine with a quad radiator."

therefore not bullshittery just lacks correctness!

 

[douglatins]

I call bullshittery. the 295 is 2xgpu + 1 i7 cpu = just under or greater than 700W of heat. Did you skim my earlier posts? Like I said I have only been satisfied with my 9x120 rad, and I think 140mm rads are probably the way to go. A 2x140mm rad gets competing numbers with a 120.3 so 2-3x140mm is a beefy rad but even then still not enough for both a 295 and i7 overclocked. STOCK you could do fine with a quad radiator.

Im saying a GTX560, quad 120mm

 

[Binge]

Im saying a GTX560, quad 120mm

Chu mean 4x140mm? (4x140=560)

lol Fitseries is trying to sell his 4x140mm rads. That could handle some OCing + both cpu and gpu.

 

[douglatins]

Chu mean 4x140mm? (4x140=560)

lol Fitseries is trying to sell his 4x140mm rads. That could handle some OCing + both cpu and gpu.

so this one i should get?