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okay but please don't get a 4870x2. A 4890 is more than enough and will be much more power efficient. Again a 4870x2 is more for benching and like you said your not trying to build a benching rig. A 4890 can play everything at full. So go with that.
 
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Do you even have an i7 rig? How do you know it's "OMG WTF FASTTTT". My dad has an i7 rig, it's not THAT fast. It pulls nearly twice the power and heat than a Phenom II while performing nearly the same at high resolution gaming. It's not worth it for a gamer. I agree, it's great for benchmarkers and stuff like that. But this guy doesn't do anything but play stalker and watch movies.

+1 totally agree.

In reality you just need to give that customer something that impressess them on their terms...

which is why I think SSD's and bluray are key. If this dude turns on a 7200.12 Raid 0 rig, it might boot up slightly faster than the old alienware, depending on how long the controller takes to initialize. - but when he launches his browser or word, or his DVD player, it will still take the same 2-3 S for the app to come up... games will take a bit to load, and even though they will load faster, the diff is not gonna blow anyone's socks off. Plus there is the chance that the drives fail.

With SSD's failure is much less, and the percieved performance is off the charts. I dont care how fast a spindle disk goes, its still the main bottleneck - remove that bottleneck, and you have performance that even a 10Ghz quad with a spindle can't touch.
 
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i7 is for one faster in multi-GPUs, it's for any comp illiterate person to say OMFG I GOTY BEST PROCESSORZZZZ and like you said... premium everything... doesn't upgrade so need better stuff now... Imagine if some 8 threaded games come out?

Hey, could you buy him like a 4830 and then when DX11 cards come out get something nice? cause DX 11 cards will make the longevity of the GPU so much more...
 

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okay but please don't get a 4870x2. A 4890 is more than enough and will be much more power efficient. Again a 4870x2 is more for benching and like you said your not trying to build a benching rig. A 4890 can play everything at full. So go with that.


In some cases I would do that.. But he's a huge stalker fan. Stalker takes a large advantage with crossfire. Call of Pripyat will use XRAY 1.6 which is a modified version of the CS engine, which as you know rapes with crossfire :D That's why I got a 4850X2 over a 4890 myself, STALKER fan too.

i7 is for one faster in multi-GPUs, it's for any comp illiterate person to say OMFG I GOTY BEST PROCESSORZZZZ and like you said... premium everything... doesn't upgrade so need better stuff now... Imagine if some 8 threaded games come out?

Hey, could you buy him like a 4830 and then when DX11 cards come out get something nice? cause DX 11 cards will make the longevity of the GPU so much more...

4800's are compatible with DX11. If everything goes well, he should be calling me to upgrade if he ever needs it :D
 
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In some cases I would do that.. But he's a huge stalker fan. Stalker takes a large advantage with crossfire. Call of Pripyat will use XRAY 1.6 which is a modified version of the CS engine, which as you know rapes with crossfire :D That's why I got a 4850X2 over a 4890 myself, STALKER fan too.



4800's are compatible with DX11. If everything goes well, he should be calling me to upgrade if he ever needs it :D

Then get 2 4870 1gbs. Will cost less, use less heat, and produce better results. Dual gpu cards are so impractical for the average user.
 
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how is 2 x 4870 less impractical compared to a x2?

You could do what I posted - a 7200.12 - a 4870x2 + 4850x2 + 2 vertex 30gb...
 
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how is 2 x 4870 less impractical compared to a x2?

You could do what I posted - a 7200.12 - a 4870x2 + 4850x2 + 2 vertex 30gb...

...Will cost less, use less heat, and produce better results

As I said, Will cost less, use less heat, and produce better results
 

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+1 totally agree.

In reality you just need to give that customer something that impressess them on their terms...

which is why I think SSD's and bluray are key. If this dude turns on a 7200.12 Raid 0 rig, it might boot up slightly faster than the old alienware, depending on how long the controller takes to initialize. - but when he launches his browser or word, or his DVD player, it will still take the same 2-3 S for the app to come up... games will take a bit to load, and even though they will load faster, the diff is not gonna blow anyone's socks off. Plus there is the chance that the drives fail.

With SSD's failure is much less, and the percieved performance is off the charts. I dont care how fast a spindle disk goes, its still the main bottleneck - remove that bottleneck, and you have performance that even a 10Ghz quad with a spindle can't touch.

I agree exept on the SSD. What happens when you fill up an SSD more than halfway, once? Do you think the customer will know how to deal with that or the tons of other odd quirks that SSDs have. Problems can come up in raid0 but the odds aren't all that great. Anyways, we have yet to see how SSD hold up in the long run. How many hard drives have you had fail?

I wouldn't reccoment an SSD for anyone other than an enthusiast for the time being. They are the drives of the future but not yet. They still have too many quirks to be use as a mainstream HDD on anything other than a netbook/laptop because of the low power consumption, imo.

For a gaming rig I think a PII, a nice, big monitor, and a video card that can handle it would be the way to go. Is he the type of person that wants to deal with multi gpu issues? Probably not since he isn't building his own rig. Keep this stuff in mind.
 
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he probably already bought the parts... I'm sad it won't be i7

P>S I can't see the wishlist :(
 
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what did you order in?
 

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Everything in there except I got two 500gb Seagate 7200.12's instead.
 
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He will...Gosh that's a nice rig...
 
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He will...Gosh that's a nice rig...

meh, I still think I could have made it much better for less. Could have got 2x sapphire 4870 1gbs for $190 each - $380 total. So $50 less than the 4870x2 and they will perform much better than the 4870x2. :rolleyes:

Also why would you use a 4870x2 with a 21" monitor? I would have gone a 24" monitor.

Blu-ray burner is also over kill. I would have gone with a blu-ray reader dvd burner combo. You can't make copies of blu-ray movies yet and blank blu-rays are like $3 a pop. thats super expensive. hope you don't get any coasters!!!

No offense but this was not a very smart build in my opinion. :shadedshu
 
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i included the blu-ray burner just for the sake of having it but i added the 780GX 4GB (1x 4GB) DDR3 ,fitseries3 uses it and said it over clocks. i thought i put together a kick ass AMD build
 
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