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http://gizmodo.com/5301401/so-long-desktop-pc-you-suck

The article is worth a "read"

I am particularly afraid of the part that the said gaming PC is dead...

"Last year saw a huge 26% increase in game sales across platforms, powered mostly by Xbox 360, Wii and Nintendo DS sales, according to NPD. Breaking that number down, we see PC game sales down by 14%. That decrease barely even registered in the broader scheme of things, since total PC game sales amounted to just $700m of the industry's $11b take. This year is looking even worse. You know what, let's just call this one too: PC gaming? Also dead."

"As the laptop is to my old man, the console is to the gamer. Just a few years ago, buying—or just as likely, building—a high-end gaming PC granted you access to a rich, unique section of the gaming world. Dropping a pile of cash for ATI's Radeon 9800 to get that precious 128MB of VRAM was damn well worth it, since there was no other way to play your Half Life 2 and your Doom 3. PC titles were often demonstrably better than console games, and practically owned the concept of multiplayer gaming—a situation that's changed, or even reversed, since all the major consoles now live online. We even spotted a prominent PC magazine editor (and friend of Giz) copping on Twitter to buying an Xbox game because it has multiplayer features the PC version doesn't. Yes, things are different now.

NPD's Baker sees it too: "Go back two years ago and think about all the buzz that someone like Falcon or Alienware or Voodoo was generating, and how much buzz they generate now, that might be a little bit telling." He adds, "There's considerably less interest in high powered gaming machines." They're luxury items in every sense, from their limited utility to their ridiculous price to their extremely low sales."
 
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Too late, 1:33am. Can some one summarize it please? lol
 

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Too late, 1:33am. Can some one summarize it please? lol

Another idiot saying "PC Gaming is dead because pre-built sales are down!!!!!".
 
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Blasphemy!!!I tell you!
 
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Another idiot saying "PC Gaming is dead because pre-built sales are down!!!!!".

I remember a trend a while back that said the same thing, but we all see it didn't stick
 
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Writer of story:


It's not a news article. It's one hoody wearing kids story to write to make money to buy pizza and "get chicks".

Nothing of what I just said is fact (well, he is wearing a hoody), but neither is his little story.
 
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IT ISN'T SO. /thread.
 
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here you go: "it isn't so" I say. seriously, this is BS
 

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Only thing I am worried about is the direction of PC gaming as it seems that way too many developers think that the only way to succeed is with simple shooters and C&C clones. PC gaming is not dying, it is suffering from lack of diversity and quality developers.
 

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He's right when it comes to casual users. For them laptops are the better choice imo. And he makes a point when it comes to gaming, but then I really think the entire industry has been going downhill the past years anyway, so that doesn't really concern me. :(
 

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umm... no?
why is he even writing this? to get flamed on?

EDIT: not at your post frick...
 
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The entire article is a joke. It's based off of one survey and only one.

With the economy being the way it is, the numbers are BOUND to be low. Even Consoles took a hit this year and over the past few. New Gen Consoles SUCH as the 360/Wii/PS3 have just recently surpassed the sales of their predecessors.

When money get’s tight people hunker down and hide. Also with PC's lasting longer, people not needing the "Increase" in speed with the new tech, it's no wonder it is down.

A lot of software packages do not need HIGH end parts or even Mid-range part's for a simple user. Why buy new, and spend $300-400 when money is tight and there is nothing wrong with the current computer?

People are taking the cheaper path, and it is the same with a gaming pc. People like the simplicity’s of the Consoles, because they are cheap, do not require "Upgrades" and perform online gaming/community just like a PC. It's just plain cheaper.

Now let's say you take a newly built PC, with an i7, 6 GB’s of memory, a medium-high end graphics, and drop $1300-$2000. That PC should last a user a good 7-10yrs or longer maybe requiring a part replacement some maintenance etc. It's more expensive, but the longevity is there, most likely not needing to upgrade to play the latest and greatest for quite some time. And with a PC you can adapt to the changes of the industry easily, without having to purchase an entire new unit. (Of course a lot of us are hardware junkies and need to be sent into rehab)

PS3's Xbox's Wii's... Once their graphics potential has been reached...they cannot pop in a new video card, or update the audio to 7.1, 8.1, Blow skirt's off women awesome. You have to spend at release date and for a good year or 2 after, depending on the cost of the new unit at least $400, and then buy a new game, maybe new controller’s accessories, at least another 100-200 depending on the purchase.


PC Gaming will never die, or even start to. Numbers fluctuate up and down quarterly. Mean's nothing. PC's will continue to provide a very stable gaming environment, and I believe "consoles" will one day just be a computer that allow people to view/update everything on a TV (being our Monitor) and wirelessly distribute that to our other devices in our homes.

And just remember....laptops have a very high "Theft" rate. Take a look at Schools around the world and the # of people that get laptop's stolen with critical file information on it..(Bank of America, Chubb Insurance?) Very hard to walk out the front door with a 20LB computer under your shirt and not be noticed...
 
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The truth is, that PC gaming died years ago. It's just that no one told the developers, publishers and gamers. So they keep spending millions to make AAA games and the gamers keep spending millions to get them and play them.

But rest assured, PC gaming is really dead. :rolleyes:
 

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Oh yeah i'd forgot pc's can play games ! I doubt knowone on TPU still plays games on a pc.

We all av consoles for that sort of thing hay lads :rockout:














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Intel is to blame, because they giving shitty cheap pc's to the masses with no graphics
 
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The figures he use don't take into account the MASSIVE increase in digital distribution of games. He also doesn't take into account hardware sales (they're on the up as more and more people realize changing a CPU, RAM or GPU is pretty easy).

Therefore, the entire article is bullshit.
 
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Intel is to blame, because they giving shitty cheap pc's to the masses with no graphics

Intel makes budget proc's for standard user's. A simple normal user has no need to have a high end video card to work excel, word, check email, browse the web, upload photo's etc.

Integrated work's well enough.

Can't point the finger at anyone. A shitty cheap PC to you, could be a fucking gold mine to someone replacing a 10yr old computer.

BTW The current NASA space shuttles still use 486 Proc's.
 

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I would think the reason being is due to the people are cutting back and lets face a good gaming rig aint very cheap alot of people probably don't wanna put $1000-$2000 into a computer at these hard times so the cheaper route would be consul gaming and two its a lot easier to set up as well.
 

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Intel is to blame, because they giving shitty cheap pc's to the masses with no graphics

YAY !!! Let's blame people !!

It's Microsoft's fault for not supporting PC gaming as well as they could and instead pushing their console.
It's ATI and Nvidia's fault for not having graphic cards that will do millions of physics particles at the same time as producing photorealistic graphics at 200 FPS.
It's Apple's fault because they stole 10% of the PC market share and you can't play PC game for crap on Macs.
It's Seagate and Maxtors and WD's fault for not making hard drives that can transfer data at the speed of light.
It's the RAM maker's fault for not making RAM fast enough to handle the speed of light HDD transfers.

Weeee.... :rolleyes:

It's nobody's fault. It's just economics and how markets play out. PC gaming will be around for quite some time. It is the platform of choice for game development.
 
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Sales are down universally for -everything-.

However, my desktop gaming computer is dead.

My laptop however... :rockout:
 
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It's Kreij's fault! He killed Colonel Mustard in the Library with the candle stick!! :D
 

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It's Kreij's fault! He killed Colonel Mustard in the Library with the candle stick!! :D

It's Mike's fault for playing board games like Clue instead of PC gaming ! :roll:

Let's all go buy a PC game this weekend so no one can blame us :pimp:
 
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